Author Topic: Michael Jackson funeral - buried with no brain / false abuse (Read 33973 times)

MethodGNA · « **Reply #50 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:11:38 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on July 03, 2009, 10:09:03 PM

Michael Jackson lived in and molested children in California. Arnold is the governor of California. Arnold was a bodybuilder. Therefore, this thread is bodybuilding related and can stay on the G&O, get it?

i never would have until you explained it to me

asianmyth · « **Reply #51 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:22:14 PM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on July 03, 2009, 04:48:51 PM

Did Allah tell Michael to touch kids?

Most of bishops are child molester in USA and around the world.did Jesus told them to screw the kids.

arce1988 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:23:10 PM »

Pederast

divcom · « **Reply #53 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:54:29 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on July 03, 2009, 10:09:03 PM

Michael Jackson lived in and molested children in California. Arnold is the governor of California. Arnold was a bodybuilder. Therefore, this thread is bodybuilding related and can stay on the G&O, get it?

damn mold cheese...your posts are starting to make sense. must be them negros and tacos getting to you in that ph.d. abundant neighborhood in houston.

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #54 on:** July 03, 2009, 10:58:23 PM »

Quote from: divcom on July 03, 2009, 10:54:29 PM

damn mold cheese...your posts are starting to make sense. must be them negros and tacos getting to you in that ph.d. abundant neighborhood in houston.

There are no negroes or tacos in my neighborhood. Tacos are allowed in only during weekdays if they're driving landscaping or pool cleaning trucks, and negroes are arrested on sight.

Arkadius · « **Reply #55 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:39:51 AM »

Quote from: Ursus on July 02, 2009, 06:14:22 PM

this MJ nonsense is fucking queer.

and this bs about his music dying...he hasnt had a good song since i was born and the music never dies with him. its on internet

When were you born idiot? in 2000?

Arkadius · « **Reply #56 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:41:08 AM »

Quote from: Rudee on July 03, 2009, 06:08:29 PM

What the fuc k does this have to do with bodybuilding?

Fuck off.

Arkadius · « **Reply #57 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:43:18 AM »

Quote from: PANDAEMONIUM on July 02, 2009, 11:30:15 PM

Who cares WTF you think

I care so shut your pie hole.

Arkadius · « **Reply #58 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:51:52 AM »

On November 18th, 2003, news broke that Mr. Michael Jackson’s Neverland Ranch was being searched by the Santa Barbara Police. Apparently, a 12-year-old boy had accused the singer of sexual abuse. To many, it appeared that Michael Jackson must be guilty; this was, afterall, the second set of sexual abuse allegations made against him. It is also a widely known fact that Michael Jackson settled a civil lawsuit with his first accuser in 1993. There are many facts, however, that have been widely ignored by the media when discussing these allegations. Read on to learn the truth about the Michael Jackson Case.

Frequently Asked Questions:
Hasn’t this happened before?
Did Evan Chandler try to sue Michael after 1993?
If Michael was innocent, why did he “pay off” his accuser in 1993?
Why did Jordan Chandler make allegations against Michael?
Were charges ever brought against Michael in 1993?
Who is Larry Feldman and how is he significant to both cases?
Did Michael know in advance that these allegations would be brought against him?
Who is Tom Sneddon and what does he have against Michael Jackson?
Has Tom Sneddon ever maliciously prosecuted anybody before?
Who is Diane Dimond and is she involved in this case?
Should a 45-year-old man be allowed to have children sleep over at his house?
Is it true that Jordan Chandler accurately described Michael’s genitalia?
Has Michael written any songs about the 1993 allegations?
Does Michael Jackson fit the profile of a pedophile?
Where am I getting this stuff from?

Hasn’t this happened before?
Yes. In 1993, a young boy made similar allegations against Michael Jackson but it was clearly an extortion attempt. Please refer to the article from GQ Magazine entitled “Was Michael Jackson Framed” because it provides an in depth look at the motives behind the first allegations.There is a taped phone conversation between Evan Chandler (the alleged victim’s father) and Dave Schwartz (the alleged victim’s stepfather) where Chandler says, “Everything’s going according to a certain plan that isn’t just mine… and if I go through with this, I win big time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]… and Michael’s career will be over.” This tape was played all over news networks and also on the Prime Time Live interview with Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley in 1994. It seems, however, that the media has conveniently forgotten about it.

Did Evan Chandler try to sue Michael after 1993?
Yes. Evan Chandler tried to sue Michael Jackson in 1996, claiming that Michael violated the terms of their civil settlement by denying that he ever sexually abused the boy. In his lawsuit, Chandler cited Michael’s 1995 album HIStory as well as an interview that Michael did with Diane Sawyer. In addition to the $60 million he demanded, Chandler also wanted a court order to allow him to produce and distribute his own album called EVANstory. That’s right. Instead of getting justice for his son who was allegedly molested, Evan Chandler wanted to sing songs about it. The lawsuit was thrown out of court.
Although Evan Chandler only wanted money, isn’t it possible that Michael was still guilty?
No. Remember, before carrying out his plan, Evan Chandler went to Michael Jackson first and asked for money. Chandler had the letter from Dr. Abrams saying sexual abuse might have occured and if the boy admitted to it, he would be forced to report it to child welfare services. Chandler used this letter to try to blackmail Michael in the very beginning and was turned away. Assuming Michael Jackson had actually molested this boy, why didn’t he take that opportunity to avoid getting caught? He could have paid up right then and avoided the entire ordeal. Instead, he refused to pay the Chandlers. If he was guilty, please explain to me why he did that.
It’s undeniable that Evan Chandler only wanted money; knowing this, why didn’t Michael just buy his silence in the beginning? Imagine how different things would have been for him if the allegations had never been made public. His career would not have been jeopardized, his image would not have been tarnished and, again, assuming he was indeed a pedophile he could have carried on with his activities without people suspecting anything. The only logical reason to explain why he didn’t pay off Evan Chandler is because he was INNOCENT and naively assumed that justice would be on his side.
Also, keep in mind that pedophiles have hundreds of victims. Out of the thousands of children who have stayed at Neverland, you expect me to believe that Michael only molests children whose parents are dishonest and greedy? Surely he would have other victims besides Jordan Chandler and the new accuser. Why haven’t they come forward? Let me guess, he paid them all off? None of his victims have parents who are normal, honest people? None of them want justice for their poor molested children? Bullshit.

If Michael was innocent, why did he “pay off” his accuser in 1993?

1) The settlement did NOT prevent the boy from testifying in the criminal trial.It makes no sense to say that Michael bought his silence. It was Jordan’s own decision not to testify.
2) If Michael wanted to pay off his accuser, why didn’t he do it at the very beginning? Evan Chandler made a demand for $20 million before authorities knew about the alleged abuse. If Michael wanted to buy their silence, like many people claim he did, why didn’t he do it right then? Before the police trashed his home, before he was publicly humiliated, before he was subjected to a dehumanizing search of his private parts? He could have bought their silence right from the get go and avoided the whole ordeal. Instead he rejected Evan Chandler’s initial demand for money. Why would a guilty man do that?
3) Even if we illogically dismiss the first two points, it still doesn’t make sense to say that Michael bought Jordan Chandler’s silence. If Michael’s plan was to settle the civil lawsuit in order to prevent the boy from cooperating with authorities in the criminal trial, wouldn’t it have been beneficial to him if the civil trial occurred first? So why did Michael Jackson file a motion asking for the criminal trial to take place first if his whole plan was to pay the boy off? If the criminal trial was first, Michael wouldn’t have had an opportunity to buy Jordan’s silence. His actions (asking for the criminal trial to precede the civil trial) are contradictory of his alleged motives (settling the civil suit to prevent the boy from testifying against him).

Why did Jordan Chandler make allegations against Michael?

Jordan only made allegations after his father gave him a drug called sodium amytal. According to Dr. Resnick, a Cleveland psychiatrist, “It’s a psychiatric medication that cannot be relied on to produce fact. People are very suggestible under it. People will say things under sodium amytal that are blatantly untrue.” He goes on to say, “It is quite possible to implant an idea through the mere asking of a question. The idea can become their memory, and studies have shown that even when you tell them the truth, they will swear on a stack of Bibles that it happened.”Sodium amytal has been a factor in other child molestation cases, one of which occurred in Napa County, California. After undergoing many therapy sessions, and being administered the sodium amytal drug, a 20-year-old woman accused her father of molesting her as a child. Her father denied the charges and sued the therapist and the psychiatrist. The jury sided with the father, believing that the memory had been implanted in the woman’s mind as a result of being given the drug. Sadly, it seems that Jordan Chandler was merely a pawn in his father’s sick scam to extort money.

Were charges ever brought against Michael in 1993?
No. After Jordan refused to testify, the District Attorney’s case fell apart. The authorities literally tried everything to find evidence that would corroborate Jordan’s story. They contacted hundreds of children who had stayed at Neverland and could not find another “victim.” Even though authorities used aggressive interrogation techniques, not one child said anything bad about Michael. They also searched his house from top to bottom and took photographs of Michael’s naked body.

Who is Larry Feldman and how is he significant to both cases?
Larry Feldman is the civil lawyer who represented the Chandlers in the 1993 case and got them about $20 million. After denying abuse over and over again, Michael Jackson’s new accuser changed his story when Mr. Feldman entered the picture. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions about that…

Did Michael know in advance that these allegations would be brought against him?
Yes. His attorney Mark Geragos was hired at the beginning of February because somebody within his camp suspected there was something wrong with the family who is now making accusations.

Who is Tom Sneddon and what does he have against Michael Jackson?
Tom Sneddon was the prosecutor in the 1993 case and he is also the prosecutor involved with the current allegations. After spending millions of dollars on the Michael Jackson investigation in 1993, Sneddon came up empty handed. He brought his evidence (or lack thereof) in front of two grand juries and could not get an indictment. After that, he claims to have never given Michael Jackson another passing thought.In 1995, Michael Jackson wrote a song about Tom Sneddon called “D.S.” In order to prevent a lawsuit, the lyrics say “Dom Sheldon is a cold man” but it is obvious who Michael is referring to. In the song he says, “He’s out to shock in every single way/ He’ll stop at nothing just to get his political fame/ He think he hot cause he BS DA/ I’ll bet he never had a social life anyway/ You think he brotha with the KKK/ I bet his mother never taught him right anyway/ He want your vote just to remain DA/ He don’t do half what he say.”

Has Tom Sneddon ever maliciously prosecuted anyone before?

Yes. Lawyer Gary Dunlap filed a $10 million lawsuit against Tom Sneddon in November 2003. In June of that year, Dunlap was acquitted of 6 charges brought against him by Sneddon. In a 102 page complaint, Dunlap accuses Sneddon of racketeering, witness tampering, conspiring against him and maliciously prosecuting him. The complaint also alleges that Sneddon violated Dunlap’s civil rights by conducting illegal searches of his property. In an interview with MJJForum Radio, Dunlap talks about Sneddon stacking charges in order to convict him on at least one count. He discusses Sneddon’s frequent abuse of power and claims that there are other lawyers who have seen this.
Who is Diane Dimond?
Diane Dimond is the former host of “Hard Copy” who has apparently declared herself the expert on the Michael Jackson Case. She’s obviously VERY close with the District Attorney but she is far from accurate in her reporting.

Should a 45-year-old man be allowed to have children sleep over at his house?
Michael Jackson has been widely criticized for his statements regarding children sharing his bedroom. It is not illegal for him to do this and it does not make him guilty of anything besides going against a societal norm.

Sexual abuse does not always occur at night or in a bed. If you argue that the sleepovers are wrong because they provide an opportunity for sexual abuse to occur, then I guess you could also argue that no adult should ever be alone with any child. Whether or not they’re related is irrelevant because there’s something called incest which people seem to have forgotten about.
Is it true that Jordan Chandler accurately described Michael’s genitalia?
No. In January 1994, USA Today printed an article confirming that, “photos of Michael Jackson’s genitalia do not match descriptions given by the boy who accused the singer of sexual misconduct.” Some tabloid reports may indicate otherwise but keep in mind that the District Attorney brought his “evidence” in front of two grand juries and charges were not filed. If the photos matched the boy’s description, the case would have probably gone to trial.

Has Michael written any songs about the 1993 allegations?
Yes, in fact, most of his 1995 album “HIStory” deals with what he went through during the first allegations. The songs Scream, They Don’t Care About Us, Stranger in Moscow, This Time Around, D.S, Money, Childhood, Tabloid Junkie and 2Bad all seem to be written about the first allegations. Here are some lyrics from the album:

Scream
Tired of injustice
Tired of the schemes
Your lies are disgusting
But what does it mean, dirty
Kickin’ me down
I’ve got to get up
As jacked as it sounds
The whole system sucks, dirty

They Don’t Care About Us
Now tell me what has become of my rights
Am I invisible cause you ignore me
Your proclamation promised me free liberty
I’m tired of being the victim of shame
You’re throwin’ me in a class with a bad name
I can’t believe this is the land from which I came

Stranger in Moscow
I was wanderin’ in the rain
Cast of life feeling insane
Swift and sudden fall from grace
Happy days seem far away
Kremlin’s shadow belittlin’ me
Stalin’s tomb won’t let me be
On and on and on it came
Wish the rain would just let me be

This Time Around
Somebody’s out
Somebody’s out to use me
They really want to use me
And then falsely accuse me
But this time around
They’ll take it like spit
No you really can’t control me

D.S
They wanna get my ass dead or alive
You know he really tried to take me down by surprise
I’ll bet he missioned with the CIA
He don’t do half what he say
Cause Tom Sneddon is a cold man

Money
If you show me the cash then I will take it
If you ask me to cry then I will fake it
If you give me your hand then I will shake it
You’ll do anything for money

Childhood
No one understands me
They view it as such strange eccentricities
Cause I keep kidding around
Like a child, but pardon me
People say I’m not okay
Cause I love such elementary things
It’s been my fate to compensate
For the childhood I’ve never known

Tabloid Junkie
It’s slander with the words you use
You’re a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don’t go and buy it
And they won’t justify it
To read it sanctifies it
Then why do we keep fooling ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on a TV screen don’t make it factual
But everybody wants to read all about it

2Bad
Told me that you’re doing wrong
Word out shocking all alone
Cryin’ wolf ain’t like a man
Throwin’ rocks to hide your hands
You ain’t done enough for me
You ain’t done enough for me
You are disgusting me, yeah, yeah
You’re aiming just for me
You are disgusting me
Just want your cut from me but too bad, too bad

Does Michael Jackson fit the profile of a pedophile?

No. According to Michael Borak, a forensic psychiatrist who has evaluated many pedophiles, Michael’s eccentric behavior is “not typical of most offenders. Most offenders are ‘normal’ people who could be your neighbors, not freaky or weird.” In response to people who think Michael’s image is typical of pedophiles, another psychiatrist, Dr. Ralph Underwager, who has treated pedophiles and victims of incest since 1953 says, “There’s no such thing as a classic pedophile. They made a completely foolish and illogical error.” He says Jackson is an easy target because “misconceptions like these have been allowed to parade as fact in an era of hysteria.”

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Meso_z · « **Reply #59 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:53:46 AM »

all bussiness

drkaje · « **Reply #60 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:54:44 AM »

All that money was given out of the goodness of his heart, LOL!

Never understood the whole fan thing people have.

JimmyJam1974 · « **Reply #61 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:57:07 AM »

MJ meltdown

drkaje · « **Reply #62 on:** July 04, 2009, 06:59:14 AM »

Quote from: JimmyJam1974 on July 04, 2009, 06:57:07 AM

MJ meltdown

People will forgive anything if you're a big enough star. Even child abuse.

Arkadius · « **Reply #63 on:** July 04, 2009, 07:02:33 AM »

True or false?

The bullshit lies that were told about Michael Jackson are being brought up in the media yet again, even in death. The lying bastard Jordan Chandler now 26 years old, accused Michael of molesting him in 1993 describing Michaels genitals, and eventually settling out of court for $22 million dollars. The remorse and guilt over Michaels death have brought the TRUTH, that I knew from the beginning. Bottom line there is a special place in HELL for him and his dad! Jordon Chandler cowardly says

” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can’t tell Michael how much i’m sorry and if he will forgive me “. Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Evan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.”Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer’s genitals. Now for the first time i can’t bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”

Note: The source in which this comes from are mixing up the names. Jordon is the son and Evan is the father. Hopefully, this story isn’t fabricated by the source, if so damn you!

Arkadius · « **Reply #64 on:** July 04, 2009, 07:03:15 AM »

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After the sudden death of Michael Jackson Evan Chandler tells the truth.

In 1993, Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson's genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million, but the strain led Jackson to begin taking painkillers. Eventually he became addicted.

Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now I can't tell Michael how much i'm sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer's genitals.

” Now for the first time i can't bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn't do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.” maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can't tell Michael how much i'm sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There's no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer's genitals.

” Now for the first time i can't bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn't do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”