Author Topic: MMA fighters vs. IFBB pros (Bob Chick Melting Down) (Read 37470 times)

Fury · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2009, 07:48:46 AM »

I think the better question is, "Would an IFBB Pro beat any person who is in shape in a fight?" The answer is no.

local hero · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2009, 09:46:42 AM »

yeh right... the average ifbb pro could pull your arm out the sockets, when facing an avarege person...

Earl1972 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:29:22 AM »

Quote from: Okami on July 15, 2009, 06:28:36 AM

Yeah they kinda said that exact same thing in the first post

nope the first post talked about fighting

I would love to see fedor get destroyed on a bodybuilding stage by dexter, is he really under the delusion that he can compete with the best bodybuiders?

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MindSpin · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:46:06 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on July 15, 2009, 10:29:22 AM

nope the first post talked about fighting

I would love to see fedor get destroyed on a bodybuilding stage by dexter, is he really under the delusion that he can compete with the best bodybuiders?

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You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.

Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 15, 2009, 10:57:05 AM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 15, 2009, 10:46:06 AM

You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.

Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.

it's just a silly conversation to have, they aren't supposed to be fighters and the muscles were never built for fighting so why compare the two?

fedor easily wins in his chosen profession, dexter easily wins in his

just another anti bodybuilding thread on a bodybuilding forum

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MindSpin · « **Reply #30 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:46:09 AM »

Still you don't get it. What's bodybuilding supposed to be for? What is its allure? For a few, it is an art and they get genuine fulfillment from creating a work of art. For most, big muscles = tough alpha-male. But they're wrong. Big muscles = nothing.

That is why bodybuilding is dying and MMA is exploding.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #31 on:** July 15, 2009, 11:56:25 AM »

Quote from: CalvinH on July 15, 2009, 07:47:45 AM

Debussy vs Ron,
Ron won by a ko.

LOL. He's still out on the canvas. I guess the upside is that his IQ won't be affected by such a pummeling.

Chick · « **Reply #32 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:26:39 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 15, 2009, 10:46:06 AM

You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.

Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.

So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....

One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #33 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:28:52 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 15, 2009, 10:46:06 AM

You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.

Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.

QFT

Earl1972 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:50:59 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 15, 2009, 11:46:09 AM

Still you don't get it. What's bodybuilding supposed to be for? What is its allure? For a few, it is an art and they get genuine fulfillment from creating a work of art. For most, big muscles = tough alpha-male. But they're wrong. Big muscles = nothing.

That is why bodybuilding is dying and MMA is exploding.

what is mma supposed to be for? how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?

more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals

as far as being an alpha male goes, i think it's more of a mindset than fighting or big muscles

going by looks alone, i think people would say a bodybuilder looks more alpha than bj penn, for that reason a bj penn look alike would more likely be in a situation where he has to defend himself

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Immortal_Technique · « **Reply #35 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:54:59 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on July 15, 2009, 10:46:06 AM

You don't get it do you? Bodybuilders portray a false sense of strength & power. Many get into it because they think it will make them into an intimidating alpha-male. But, the reality is that they are muscle bound juice monekys that are the furthest thing from tough & powerful.

Saying that Fedor could beat the shit out of any current Olympia contestant is relevant, because in spite of all of the muscle that they have, everyone of them would have to watch a chubby Russian butt-fuck their wives/girlfriends, and not be able to say or do shit about it.

You still don't get it in fact. Who gives a crap about pummeling some guy's face unless you had a troubled childhood, or for some reason feel the need to pound on someone to get affirmation in life. Lame, and for stupid people.

tbombz · « **Reply #36 on:** July 15, 2009, 12:55:48 PM »

is big muscles dont mean anything as far as being alpha male...how come every single "mma" tapout wearing "cage fighter"...will automatically give respect to a guy who is bigger muscled than him?

in life its evry simple and it almost always holds true... bigger muscles/better looking... = more respect... regardless of anything else...

if your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #37 on:** July 15, 2009, 01:55:47 PM »

Quote from: Debussey DF on July 14, 2009, 11:42:26 AM

Would you pay money to see a roid monkey trapped in the delusion that he = actually an athlete get smashed to pieces by a MMA fighter of ~~the same~~ just about any weight?

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #38 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:06:06 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on July 15, 2009, 12:50:59 PM

what is mma supposed to be for? how often are you in a situation where you have to physically defend yourself?

more often than not, the guys that get into fights are trouble makers or just criminals

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I agree with your points, but, Bodybuidling has its share of seedy characters.

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #39 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:09:14 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on July 15, 2009, 12:55:48 PM

if your at a social gathering and all the mma fighter guy is talking about all night is telling some bb'er how big he is and askin about training with him... then even if that mma could beat up the bb'er..in everyones eyes there the bb'er is the alpha... cuz the mma guy is acting as if he is the beta...

LOL
No serious MMA fighter is going to want to train with a BB'er. Apples and Oranges.

gooer · « **Reply #40 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:12:18 PM »

Quote from: divcom on July 14, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

mma vs any ifbb druggie

lol well that guy has clearly no mma knowledge. you could spot that triangle choke coming from a mile away.. and the worse thing you can do is body slam and let it lock in deeper. before that he was doing alright.

americanbulldog · « **Reply #41 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:40:35 PM »

^^^^That guy in question, is Charlie "Krazy Horse" Bennet, another MMA fighter who is more striking based. He previously claimed that he KOed Wandy Silva backstage at Pride. Chute Boxe, Wandy's old camp, put out this video to dismiss all of Krazy Horse's claims. Size and strength does play a role in fightinig. Brock Lesnar is a monster, BUT HE is crazy athletic. Something, most pro bodybuilders are not.

Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.

Charfman84 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:41:37 PM »

MMA fighters dont get that heavy

americanbulldog · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2009, 02:45:41 PM »

^^^Why would they? Size with loss of physical attributes is detrimental to fighting. Efficiency dictates that lack of extreme size (inhibiting mobility, agility, endurance) is essential to fighting.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 15, 2009, 03:06:08 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on July 15, 2009, 02:40:35 PM

Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.

exactly

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Matt C · « **Reply #45 on:** July 15, 2009, 03:08:24 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on July 15, 2009, 02:40:35 PM

Bodybuilders win bodybuilding contests, and train accordingly. Fighters are trained to fight. Kind of the show dog/game dog analogy. One is bred for confirmation, one for confrontation. Apples and oranges.

Layne.

Captain Equipoise · « **Reply #46 on:** July 15, 2009, 04:52:35 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 15, 2009, 12:26:39 PM

So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....

One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...

Ernie Taylor was a world class kickboxer at one point, wasn't he?

rocket · « **Reply #47 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:01:20 PM »

Quote from: Captain Equipoise on July 15, 2009, 04:52:35 PM

Ernie Taylor was a world class kickboxer at one point, wasn't he?

A world class kickboxer who called Guy Grundy out and then when Grundy said ok, got cold feet

rocket · « **Reply #48 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:09:54 PM »

Quote from: Chick on July 15, 2009, 12:26:39 PM

So, in order to be a toughguy...its mandatory to NOT have any muscle? Whats a matter with having BOTH? I've known many BBers over the years that had many years of martial arts training....

One of the dumbest posts I've seen from you...

It wasn't a dumb post. Your exaggerative perception of what he is said is "dumb", however, that is your reading comprehension, not his point.

What he said was that many people get into bb'ing and consequently think they are instant alpha male toughguys. At no stage did suggest what you claim he was saying. He's talking about people who believe added muscle inceases their fighting potential far more than is actually true.

You're way smarter than taking ye olde "indignation exaggeration" angle of an argument. I don't know why you are lowering yourself to it. It really is the method of the morose.

Pete Nice · « **Reply #49 on:** July 15, 2009, 06:38:53 PM »

Quote from: divcom on July 14, 2009, 01:31:09 PM

mma vs any ifbb druggie

hahahahaaa...Crazy Horse was so entertaining