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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2009, 09:21:47 PM »
Jake was awesome as heel, face and tweener.


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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2009, 05:21:00 AM »
Jake was awesome as heel, face and tweener.


I always liked to watch jake. He was my favorite wrestler in the eighties and early ninties. Great face but a much better heel.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2009, 07:47:15 AM »
Anyone have the clip of when the snake bites the Warrior and as he goes groggy you see the Undertaker?
I loved that scene, lol......"I'm a snake. Never trust a snake."....

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2009, 10:11:49 AM »
More recently i'd say JBL. A classic cowardly heel.




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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2009, 12:38:55 PM »
More recently i'd say JBL. A classic cowardly heel.




Holy Christ that was a sickening thud of a chair shot that Eddie took. Some good stuff there Mass.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2009, 01:27:27 PM »
JBL is a very good heel.., very throwback.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2009, 01:42:45 PM »
JBL is a very good heel.., very throwback.
He's very good on the stick. Very well spoken and very wealthy in real life.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2009, 02:28:34 PM »
I think with JBL, he doesn't have to try too hard to be a good heel, it kinda comes naturally to him.  You get the impression that he's an arrogant bully in real life as well.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2009, 06:14:53 AM »


I was a kid when this happened. Scared the piss out of me.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2009, 04:42:58 AM »
I think with JBL, he doesn't have to try too hard to be a good heel, it kinda comes naturally to him.  You get the impression that he's an arrogant bully in real life as well.
He actually is an arrogant bully in real life. He has been known to notoriously harrass and play hardcore pranks on new upcoming wrestlers. He has gotten away with murder many times backstage due to his close relationship with Vince.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2009, 04:56:09 AM »
JBL sucks.

Greatest heels are the ones who generate the most heat. These guys historically have done it better than anyone.

In no particular order (but I would think Piper is number 1).

Roddy Piper
Fred Blassie
Bobby Heenan
Vince McMahon
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan NWO
The Shiek

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2009, 05:20:51 AM »
JBL sucks.

Greatest heels are the ones who generate the most heat. These guys historically have done it better than anyone.

In no particular order (but I would think Piper is number 1).

Roddy Piper
Fred Blassie
Bobby Heenan
Vince McMahon
Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan NWO
The Shiek

I had Piper at #1 as well. Watch the piper's pit segments from 1984-1986 when Roddy was a heel. Look at the heat he generates.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2009, 08:54:26 AM »
I had Piper at #1 as well. Watch the piper's pit segments from 1984-1986 when Roddy was a heel. Look at the heat he generates.

Hogan was the greatest hero of all time and that was because of Piper.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2009, 09:30:58 AM »
Hogan was the greatest hero because of Piper while feuding with Piper.
Hulk was the greatest hero because of the Iron Sheik when he won his first WWF title because Sheik was Iranian and there was that whole U.S. hostage thing going on in Iran at the time.
He was the greatest hero because of Andre because Andre was "unbeatable" and turned on the fans.

Hogan was only as good as all the heels he's worked with.
As soon as one program ended, they needed to get him into another as soon as possible because he needed the belt and he needed to defend it against a formidable opponent. That was his "thing."

Hot Rod spent the majority of his WWF run as a face, and it was hard to replace him with a comparable heel.
The next 3 Mania’s they had to feed Hogan monsters – Bundy & Andre – because no one else was a believable threat.

Andre & Hogan drew big $$, but I think if Piper had remained heel, they could have re-ignited the feud and had a longer run.
But there would also have come a time where Vince would need Piper to be pinned by Hulk, and Roddy’s only RARELY been pinned clean in his post-Portland years (perhaps one of the main reasons Vince only gave him one title run - how else could he lose the belt in the ring?).

He sure as shit would not have taken a dive against Hogan.
Maybe a count-out, or more likely a DQ, but not a pin job.
His rationale was if Hogan defeated him fair & square, his status and value in the business would plummet.

I preferred Roddy as a heel.
A lot of those TNT and SNME segments were great.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2009, 05:01:27 AM »
Also remember....

An NWO Hollywood Hogan was some serious heat too....watch the bash at the beach PPV when he first turned heel and watch the tremendous amount of heat he generates. A fan actually tried to jump him in the ring and was rewarded by Kevin Nash's boots to the head...lol....classic... how stupid do people have to be to actually try and get into the ring and jump a 300+ pound wrestler....

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2009, 10:06:17 AM »
Buddy Rogers deserves mention as well. A really good match with him and Mr. Kowalski




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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2009, 10:15:07 AM »

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2009, 11:15:37 AM »
Ah...Buddy Rogers  :)

"To a nicer guy, this couldn't have happened". He was great.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2009, 06:53:41 PM »
Buddy Rogers was the stuff.
Almost always, yes.

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2009, 02:33:00 PM »
I always remember Vince as the goofy announer in the 3 piece suit. I could never root against him, even against Austin.

Baaaaaaaaaaack body drop

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2009, 06:32:42 AM »
I always remember Vince as the goofy announer in the 3 piece suit. I could never root against him, even against Austin.

Baaaaaaaaaaack body drop
Or better still....

"1, 2, he got him....ah nooooooooooo kick out!"

I love how Jesse used to tune Vince up when they were commentating back in the eighties. "It ain't cheating unless you get caught, McMahon!"

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #46 on: August 26, 2009, 11:05:19 AM »
Or better still....

"1, 2, he got him....ah nooooooooooo kick out!"

I love how Jesse used to tune Vince up when they were commentating back in the eighties. "It ain't cheating unless you get caught, McMahon!"
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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2009, 02:07:27 PM »
nothing will ever beat this classic McMahon dialouge from the 1995 (?) royal rumble.

(McMahon freaking out as Sparky Plugg runs to the ring)

"Sparky Plugg's gonna win the royal rumble!"
"Sparky Plugg's going to wreslemania"
"Sparky Plugg's going to win the WWF Championship!"

<sparky gets eliminated almost instantly>

"oh, he got eliminated"

it was fucking hilarious. I want to find it on youtube..

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2009, 04:41:54 AM »
nothing will ever beat this classic McMahon dialouge from the 1995 (?) royal rumble.

(McMahon freaking out as Sparky Plugg runs to the ring)

"Sparky Plugg's gonna win the royal rumble!"
"Sparky Plugg's going to wreslemania"
"Sparky Plugg's going to win the WWF Championship!"

<sparky gets eliminated almost instantly>

"oh, he got eliminated"

it was fucking hilarious. I want to find it on youtube..


lol, lol.....sparky plugg......145lbs socked and wet...then 2 years goes by and all of a sudden he weighs 245lbs and ripped.......

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Re: Greatest heel of all time?
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2009, 03:36:33 AM »
He was on the cell tech and nitro tech stack