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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #50 on: September 08, 2009, 10:40:23 PM »
Kai has a great package and should do well in the Olympia.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2009, 10:42:10 PM »
Just something that I noticed about the black bodybuilders. They all had white gals managing them! They took details of contacts and so on.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #52 on: September 08, 2009, 10:57:29 PM »
It was close between Freeman and Samuel. It could have gone either way.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #53 on: September 08, 2009, 11:02:23 PM »
I saw Toney beating Silvio the judges must have seen something different...

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #54 on: September 08, 2009, 11:06:28 PM »
Toney has a torn pec and that detracts from his physique. The other guys presented better abs and calves.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2009, 11:06:44 PM »
toney is constantly overlooked.  silvio seems to be favored by the ifbb.

also, i dont really prefer kai's physique over tony's even though kai looks good.  look at kai and silvios stomach in teh first and last pic i posted (and in many others).  Their abdomens are distorted and bloated, whereas tony has a very crisp waist and looks like a larger version of the 70's bbers.  He is more of what BBing needs in terms of proportions, and he dominates that front dbl bicep pose by far against those guys. 
Kai dominated in the side and back poses...

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2009, 11:13:36 PM »
I was photographing the judging so saw the contest through the viewfinder of my camera. From what I saw I would say it was an unanimous win for Kai Green with 2nd place split between Freeman and Samuel. Tony D can tell us how the judging went.

I agree that Freeman has a great physique but Kai was clearly superior that day.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2009, 11:16:09 PM »
On the other hand, see if you can fault this physique.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2009, 11:23:51 PM »
On the other hand, see if you can fault this physique.
upper trap thickness?  :D

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2009, 11:47:53 PM »
It is one thing to possess a great physique and quite another to display one. Kai is a bit of both.

To be perfect he needs longer muscle bellies in arms and calves. That being said, look at his development in those areas. Outstanding.

I agree that Freeman has an excellent physique. However, photos tell only part of the story and during the judging the competitors move a lot and pose this way and that. Kai literally steals the show during the transitions. When they all hit poses Kai doesn't dominate like you think he might. Critics are correct that Freeman does 'win' some of the poses and has a small waist and broad shoulders. I tell you the transitions while posing during the judging is absolutely crucial.

At the Australian Pro the judges took their time and even had the top three guys change positions and pose again. So they didn't rush anything.
The fact that they changed positions means it was very close. If two are brought out that means they are having trouble separating them. This happened with Freeman and Samuel.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2009, 11:53:29 PM »
I arrived at the contest late and the prejudging was well underway. So I missed shooting Freeman's routine. I don't have any individual shots of him to post here. They are available at MD I think.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2009, 11:54:53 PM »
Here is a group of people manning a booth at the show.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2009, 11:58:39 PM »
Toney has a torn pec and that detracts from his physique. The other guys presented better abs and calves.

Yes, but as far as pec tears go, Toney`s is relatively minor.
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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #63 on: September 09, 2009, 12:04:44 AM »
Here is Toney from the back. A big guy. His triceps could be bigger and so could his calves.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #64 on: September 09, 2009, 12:09:47 AM »
No bodybuilder wants to tear muscles. So it is sad that Toney has torn his pectoral near the armpit. The trouble with tears is you look for them and they spoil a good physique. Dorian Yates is probably the last guy that will win an Olympia with a torn biceps.

You have to admit that Silvio looks really awkward in many of his poses. Yet his physique is a very good one. He is one guy who doesn't look better when he poses hard on stage. Maybe he has to relax and not get too contorted, etc. Some guys try too hard and screw up their faces and even have their necks disappear. I think Kai isn't that strong in the standard poses because he is trying too hard. He will have a big job overcoming pros like Heath and Jackson.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #65 on: September 09, 2009, 12:28:44 AM »
Kai is unusual in that alone he looks really short because he is so thick when in fact he is about average height for a bodybuilder.



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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #66 on: September 09, 2009, 05:05:02 AM »
It is always nice to see women at contests. Otherwise it wouldn't be interesting as a spectacle.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #67 on: September 09, 2009, 05:10:34 AM »
Looks like Lee has tattoo disciples.

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2009, 05:20:03 AM »
Looks like Lee has tattoo disciples.

LOL...look at this guys shirt....WAS anyone asking??

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2009, 05:28:23 AM »
LOL...look at this guys shirt....WAS anyone asking??
Yeah,the point of making this t-shirt in anything less than a 2xl is ridiculous?

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2009, 07:35:12 AM »
toney is constantly overlooked.  silvio seems to be favored by the ifbb.

also, i dont really prefer kai's physique over tony's even though kai looks good.  look at kai and silvios stomach in teh first and last pic i posted (and in many others).  Their abdomens are distorted and bloated, whereas tony has a very crisp waist and looks like a larger version of the 70's bbers.  He is more of what BBing needs in terms of proportions, and he dominates that front dbl bicep pose by far against those guys. 

and toney smokes him in back lat spread and FDB

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2009, 07:37:09 AM »
Compare Toney's abs with Kai and Silvios in this pic below.  Silvio has the bloated GH gut coming out, and Kai has a very wide stomach as well.



This photo below is what Mr. Olympia should look like!  He looks amazing here.  Looks much better than Kai or Silvio here.  What people would aspire to look like in my opinion.


yes
silvio looks like a kid next to Toney in FDB

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2009, 07:38:01 AM »
LOL...look at this guys shirt....WAS anyone asking??

Saw this chick at wonderland wearing a shirt that said "I only date good looking guys" but the guys she was with where anything but.

Sometimes you wonder wtf?!

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2009, 07:38:16 AM »
upper trap thickness?  :D

needs more forearms

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Re: My Photos from the 2009 Australian Pro.
« Reply #74 on: September 09, 2009, 07:42:52 AM »
Im glad someone else is seeing this as well.  Unbelievable that toney gets overlooked and compared with people like Silvio. 

It should have been  between Kai and Toney, and even then, Kai has gyno and a GH gut, so deduct some major points for that, plus deduct points for having a bad structure (he is squished looking with a short torso), and I would give the win to Toney. 

agreed
Toney should have won