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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2009, 05:38:52 PM »
so a 97 Dorian impressed u and in 93 he didnt
Yet he was far far superiour in 93

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No, he didn't. His chest was flat, biceps lacked peak and looked awful in front and back double bicep poses, which they essentially did his entire career, and in '97 were even worse. His muscle bellies weren't as full back then and his shape basically sucked.

He was fuller and had better shape in '97 and was bigger overall.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2009, 05:39:53 PM »
Haney - especially for an 8 time Mr. O (wouldn't win his class at the Nationals today)
Haney had a phenomenal physique, even by todays standards, I still don't see lat and upper chest development like his, even today. Haney had a small waist wide flaring lats, complete chest development, symmetry and proportion.  His weak point were his arm and leg size, which were only slightly under developed compared to the rest of his physique.
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2009, 05:41:43 PM »
Haney had a phenomenal physique, even by todays standards, I still don't see lat and upper chest development like his, even today. Haney had a small waist wide flaring lats, complete chest development, symmetry and proportion.  His weak point were his arm and leg size, which were only slightly under developed compared to the rest of his physique.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2009, 05:47:38 PM »


'97 Dorian

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2009, 06:10:42 PM »
I don't think that any of the Mr Olympias are overrated.

Dickerson was rewarded for being the best bodybuilder in the early eighties at a time when creative aesthetics were being rewarded. How then can he be underrated if he is being rewarded for what he was best at?

As for Samir it makes no difference if he failed to produce after 1983 cause the night that he won, he DID produce.

The idea that Zane was a swimmer is ridiculous. Number one, swimmers cannot be beat Mentzer and secondly, Zane was being rewarded for conditioning and classical balance. His physique was big enough to highlight those points so again, how can he be overrated for being successful at what he was good at?

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2009, 06:54:48 PM »
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2009, 07:34:25 PM »
No way, Haney is the last Mr. O to actually have shape and small waist while being a mass monster in his time. I'd say Dorian.

No, Haney wasn't the last Mr. O to have shape and a small waist, while in shape.

Ronnie Coleman (at least his first two Olympias) fits the bill.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2009, 06:45:01 AM »
Ronnies waist was smaller than most, for his size, but nobody ever looked at him sayin "damn he's gotta small waist" or "he's got great shape". Ronnie was just a freak.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2009, 07:23:12 AM »
Ronnies waist was smaller than most, for his size, but nobody ever looked at him sayin "damn he's gotta small waist" or "he's got great shape". Ronnie was just a freak.

I beg to differ. Check the MuscleMag article on Coleman back in '96, when (as he would later do at the Olympia) he upset Flex Wheeler for the Canada Pro Cup.


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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2009, 07:34:51 AM »
If you want to back up that far then sure. But the Ronnie that was winning Mr. O's wasn't exactly tiny waisted with suberb shape.


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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2009, 01:53:46 PM »
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But the Ronnie that was winning Mr. O's wasn't exactly tiny waisted with suberb shape.

most would disagree with that statement:
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2009, 02:01:04 PM »
most would disagree with that statement:

Yea, if I were talking about Flex Wheeler. Now there's great shape and a tiny waist.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2009, 02:27:43 PM »
Yea, if I were talking about Flex Wheeler. Now there's great shape and a tiny waist.

and a whole lotta oil 8)
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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2009, 03:53:44 PM »
Zane for not looking like gave he a fuck in the gym. And don't give me that is wanted classic lines bullshit, he chest was shallow, his back lacked depth, what hamstrings????, quads and calves were small .... he was half a bodybuilder.

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2009, 03:59:00 PM »

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #40 on: October 05, 2009, 04:06:37 PM »

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2009, 04:17:37 PM »
97  ;D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2009, 04:28:47 PM »
Dorian 1997  ;)

hahaha how predictable, my puppy dog followed another post of mine and replied within minutes  ;D

BTW Dorian looks worse in those comparisons that are not from the back ;)

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #43 on: October 05, 2009, 04:30:19 PM »
Dorian 1997  :D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2009, 04:34:03 PM »
hahaha how predictable, my puppy dog followed another post of mine and replied within minutes  ;D

BTW Dorian looks worse in those comparisons that are not from the back ;)

I enjoy correcting trolls  ;)

sure he does hence why he lost  ;)

Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps  and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2009, 04:35:13 PM »
I enjoy correcting trolls  ;)

sure he does hence why he lost  ;)

Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps  and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2009, 04:35:16 PM »
Dorian 1997  :D

See backfire Yates wins both

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2009, 04:36:38 PM »
See backfire Yates wins both

Dorian wins in the bigger-waist component - not much else that picture shows

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2009, 04:38:41 PM »
I enjoy correcting trolls  ;)

sure he does hence why he lost  ;)

Dorian kills him from the sides and back but easily beats him in the front latspread but you can give Nasser the standing relaxed from the front , front double biceps  and ab-thigh , Dorian leaves him for dead everywhere else

First time I disagree with you - I think Doz looks better in the abs n thigh too ;D

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Re: Most overrated Mr Olympia?
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2009, 04:38:51 PM »
Dorian wins in the bigger-waist component - not much else that picture shows

He has a bigger waist and that means what? he almost always had a bigger waist than everyone he competed with