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pm question answerd
« on: October 19, 2009, 12:42:41 AM »
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Hi gh!
I need your help.
I read a thread with Disgusted a while back constructing cycles that should have 30:70 androgenic to anabolic ratio.So for example, 300mg test and 700mg eq.
I have also heard this from another "pro guru" stating that you want your body in a more anabolic state than androgenic.

My question is, do you beleive this is correct or does testosterone ALWAYS have to be more than the anabolic? Why?

I am 226lbs @ around 15% depending on water retention that day and I have been following the 30:70 test to anabolic ratio with 300mg test and 700mg EQ since i heard now from 2 "pro gurus".
I have been stuck at this weight for a while now.
How can i progress? Am i on the right track or is there something you would change with my cycle?

Please dont show name gh15 and thankyou!
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depends on your individual responds to hormones,,depends on wether you use or dont use growth ,,the main rule in bodybuilding is if you do not use gh the testosterone needs to be higher than the other anabolics,,not to forget that testosterone is very very anabolic more than eq more than all the rest in reality testosterone is highly anabolic highly androgenic,,,the time to play with the testosterone levels is when you have growth hormone in system,,in reality if only using aas reduction of testosterone = resudction in thickness of muscle no matter what anabolic you use,,

testerone is what we humans are made of ,,it is everything ,,it is absolutely everything when it comes to the male muscle hormone,,all the rest are nice additions,,now its possible to do cycle with out testosterone but    you will never get the THICKNESS you are looking for and you all looking for branch warren kind of thickness in a smaller version ,,,for that testosterone is key and always should remain moderate to high in cycle,,i more recomend to play with testosterone easter rather than reduction of testosterone


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pm q answered
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2009, 12:49:59 AM »
Hey gh15,

I see you giving out good advice on relationships etc lately...
I really like sorta short normal sized women... being a tall bodybuilder they don't like it usually (embarassed) but its really hot for me... i.e. feeling like king kong... how do I put these girls at ease on that issue? haha I'm sure being a pro you know what I'm saying sometimes the "big american girls" are too much know wat Im sayin!

you pull out your big pulsating cock that just took cialis a day earlier,,,and she will never leave you no matter howe tall or big you are :)
then again if youre good you wont need cialis ,,some fellas are just horn balls from day to night no matter what they are on their sex drive always in the sky ,,

the only way to ease a girl ,,american girl ,,is to make sure you fuck her right and dont be all over her too fast,,,let her think and wonder,,but! dont do it too long to a point you are crushing her ego into nothingness,,,you need to know how to walk the thin line

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Re: pm question answerd
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2009, 11:46:27 AM »
I've never gotten an answer to this. Isn't all anabolic steroids a derivative/variation of the testosterone molecule? Wasn't the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to minimize the androgenic effects of test and promote the anabolic/muscle building properties? If testosterone was just as effective, or even more effective, at promoting weight gain and muscle mass than anabolic steroids like dianabol, deca, primo, etc., what was the whole point of developing those steriods?

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2009, 11:52:20 AM »
you pull out your big pulsating cock that just took cialis a day earlier,,,and she will never leave you no matter howe tall or big you are :)
then again if youre good you wont need cialis ,,some fellas are just horn balls from day to night no matter what they are on their sex drive always in the sky ,,

the only way to ease a girl ,,american girl ,,is to make sure you fuck her right and dont be all over her too fast,,,let her think and wonder,,but! dont do it too long to a point you are crushing her ego into nothingness,,,you need to know how to walk the thin line

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The "first fuck" is critical.

You have to bang the snots out of her and then be up for round 2.

 Pussy eating skills are critical as well, as most women don't come from straight fucking, no matter how big your schlong is.

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Re: pm question answerd
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2009, 12:01:44 PM »
I've never gotten an answer to this. Isn't all anabolic steroids a derivative/variation of the testosterone molecule? Wasn't the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to minimize the androgenic effects of test and promote the anabolic/muscle building properties? If testosterone was just as effective, or even more effective, at promoting weight gain and muscle mass than anabolic steroids like dianabol, deca, primo, etc., what was the whole point of developing those steriods?

what you said yourself! To minimize the androgenic side effects. I can imagine female aids patients not wanting to be injected with test or tren  :P

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2009, 12:13:26 PM »
The "first fuck" is critical.

You have to bang the snots out of her and then be up for round 2.

 Pussy eating skills are critical as well, as most women don't come from straight fucking, no matter how big your schlong is.

speak for yourself buddy.  i've had more than a few women tell me "ok stop, i came, don't do whatever you're doing anymore" about 30 seconds into my sweet love making.
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Re: pm question answerd
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2009, 12:24:49 PM »
I've never gotten an answer to this. Isn't all anabolic steroids a derivative/variation of the testosterone molecule? Wasn't the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to minimize the androgenic effects of test and promote the anabolic/muscle building properties? If testosterone was just as effective, or even more effective, at promoting weight gain and muscle mass than anabolic steroids like dianabol, deca, primo, etc., what was the whole point of developing those steriods?

dbol is oral = no long time
Deca = no love long time
Primo = fkn expensive

can't they make a cheaper version of primo?...
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Re: pm question answerd
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 12:28:07 PM »
I've never gotten an answer to this. Isn't all anabolic steroids a derivative/variation of the testosterone molecule? Wasn't the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to minimize the androgenic effects of test and promote the anabolic/muscle building properties? If testosterone was just as effective, or even more effective, at promoting weight gain and muscle mass than anabolic steroids like dianabol, deca, primo, etc., what was the whole point of developing those steriods?

Well, with testosterone you get quite a bit of estrogen conversion, unlike other steroids.  The estrogen increase helps the testosterone become a quite powerful anabolic.  Now if you were to take a buttload of anti-e's "nothing wrong with them, people just tend to over-do them" then testosterone would become a quite shitty anabolic. 

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Re: pm question answerd
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2009, 12:55:07 PM »
what you said yourself! To minimize the androgenic side effects. I can imagine female aids patients not wanting to be injected with test or tren  :P

Maybe I wasn't clear but my point was that it seems that anabolic steroids are superior to testosterone for the purposes of increasing muscle mass. Other than for replacement purposes, why use test at all when you have the more "refine" version with anabolic steroids.

Testosterone seems to always be promoted as the king of all steroids and should be the base of every cycle. Why? If you take 200mg/wk of test it should be more than enough to counter act any suppression that other anabolic compounds induce.
 
 

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Re: pm q answered
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2009, 01:04:45 PM »
speak for yourself buddy.  i've had more than a few women tell me "ok stop, i came, don't do whatever you're doing anymore" about 30 seconds into my sweet love making.

then you handed them a $20, right?  ;D