Author Topic: New IFBB Pro Rules :The posing routine will not be scored? (Read 30540 times)

erics · « **Reply #150 on:** October 21, 2009, 05:56:59 AM »

That's an interesting idea.

It probably needs some tweaking but at least there is an element of competition in it and it seems set up to increase the tension of the event, hence the atmosphere.

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #151 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:14:15 AM »

Quote from: jtsunami on October 20, 2009, 08:35:28 PM

those are some monster shoes on the guy in the white suit

And look how long his arms are, build like a monkey (no racist)

nycbull · « **Reply #152 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:57:29 AM »

Bob, the whole problem here is debasing the posing round into mere entertainment. You are asking people with no skill in entertaining to become entertainers. Can you imagine the hip grinding and sequined costumes we are going to see. It will be worse the ice dancing

It supposed to be The Art of the Pose, not How to entertain Schmoes.

Chick · « **Reply #153 on:** October 21, 2009, 10:54:03 AM »

Quote from: jwb on October 20, 2009, 09:50:05 PM

why not judge the whole thing at night?

round 1- determination of the top ten via comparisons-judges figure out their favourite ten not exact placings yet... guys out of top ten are now out... once top ten is determined the scores are thrown out.

round 2- top ten free posing routines - not scored but since the top ten judging is yet to be done the guys try their best to make a good impression before round 3.

round 3- determination of the top 6 via comparisons... 7-10 are now out.... scores are thrown out again.

round 4- posedown and extra comparisons as needed to determine placings 1-6.

with each round the guys get a chance to move up and improve rather than it all be over in the first 5 mins of the prejudging.

the crowd gets to play a part in the show and watch the eliminations and they aren't forced to watch routines of guys out of the top ten.

That is actually really close to what we have now via the new changes, with the exception of having a prejudging...

I would be all for a one day show, and nixing prejudging, but economically...it wouldnt work

jwb · « **Reply #154 on:** October 21, 2009, 12:18:46 PM »

Quote from: erics on October 21, 2009, 05:56:59 AM

That's an interesting idea.

It probably needs some tweaking but at least there is an element of competition in it and it seems set up to increase the tension of the event, hence the atmosphere.

tension is the key to interest for people... at each stage in gets more exciting, they still get to see the top ten pose (they don't wanna see 20-25 routines that is boring), and by wiping the scores each round the judges essentially have to judge them 4 times and it gives a guy improving on the day the chance to move up...

MB · « **Reply #155 on:** October 21, 2009, 12:27:09 PM »

Quote

That is actually really close to what we have now via the new changes, with the exception of having a prejudging...

I would be all for a one day show, and nixing prejudging, but economically...it wouldnt work

Could you have a one day show on Saturday night and move the 202 to Friday night with the women? Would the attendance on Friday night really suffer that much?

Chick · « **Reply #156 on:** October 21, 2009, 04:17:49 PM »

Sure would...

jtsunami · « **Reply #157 on:** October 21, 2009, 04:19:07 PM »

Quote from: Chick on October 21, 2009, 04:17:49 PM

Sure would...

chick all i ask is for the ifbb to move that cocky son of a bitch dexter jackson to 202 class to show him he has powers over him that he has to bow down to.

jt

Chick · « **Reply #158 on:** October 21, 2009, 04:25:34 PM »

Quote from: jtsunami on October 21, 2009, 04:19:07 PM

chick all i ask is for the ifbb to move that cocky son of a bitch dexter jackson to 202 class to show him he has powers over him that he has to bow down to.

jt

uhhhh.....yeah, sure

erics · « **Reply #159 on:** October 21, 2009, 05:13:27 PM »

Quote from: jwb on October 21, 2009, 12:18:46 PM

tension is the key to interest for people... at each stage in gets more exciting, they still get to see the top ten pose (they don't wanna see 20-25 routines that is boring), and by wiping the scores each round the judges essentially have to judge them 4 times and it gives a guy improving on the day the chance to move up...

This pretty much sums it all up.

Tension is indeed the key if you want to highlight the sporting aspect.

Also, there needs to be a way for the judging to be at least seen to be accountable and again, I suggest that the IFBB consider how the other artistic/creative sports deal with their issues of subjectivity and how their scoring systems are considered to be accountable (or not).

Surely it would be a good thing if the athletes (and fans) were able to know EXACTLY which areas held them back in the scoring. At the very least, this would give the appearance that bodybuilding was a legitimate competitive activity.

karu · « **Reply #160 on:** October 21, 2009, 06:15:10 PM »

Chick,

do you even comprehend how you have contradicted yourself?

Quote from: Chick on October 18, 2009, 07:51:26 PM

It has never been judged

Quote from: Chick on October 19, 2009, 04:48:52 PM

Thery judge it

Your agenda is simple.
Make the IFBB just like the NPC.

i.e. move backwards.

Chick · « **Reply #161 on:** October 21, 2009, 06:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Chick on October 19, 2009, 04:48:52 PM

Thery judge it...as another physique round...thus the reason for change

again Karu speaking out of his ass

And what would be my "agenda", exactly? Putting more money in athletes pockets?

LOL...nice leaving out the rest of the sentence to try and make your point

Retard

karu · « **Reply #162 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:07:15 PM »

OK dumbass

please tell me how

"It has never been judged"

is the same as

"Thery judge it...as another physique round."

answer - they are not the same. They are opposite.

again this logic might be too hard for you to comprehend

you have a uncanny knack of contradicting yourself in every single thread.

genius.

Quote from: Chick on October 21, 2009, 06:21:45 PM

LOL...nice leaving out the rest of the sentence to try and make your point

Retard

Alex23 · « **Reply #163 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:08:42 PM »

Quote from: karu on October 21, 2009, 06:15:10 PM

Chick,

do you even comprehend how you have contradicted yourself?

Your agenda is simple.
Make the IFBB just like the NPC.

i.e. move backwards.

LOL!!! even if it was, why do you care?

Chick isn't the "enemy" here, I don't understand why you KY popsicles focus all your attention on the man... it must be du jour and like sheep do...

Chick · « **Reply #164 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:09:58 PM »

Please tell me you're not REALLY that retarded...

karu · « **Reply #165 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:15:04 PM »

Bob chick thread summary

1) they don't judge the posing round, dammit !

2) wait they do judge the posing round !

3) I'll insult you if you point out my inconsistency!

not very a very bright man.

Chick · « **Reply #166 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:18:18 PM »

They've never judged the posing round based on POSING

They judge the posing round as another PHYSIQUE round

Fuckin retard

Alex23 · « **Reply #167 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:21:27 PM »

Quote from: karu on October 21, 2009, 07:15:04 PM

Bob chick thread summary

1) they don't judge the posing round, dammit !

2) wait they do judge the posing round !

3) I'll insult you if you point out my inconsistency!

not very a very bright man.

Dude you're getting destroyed here... I've got goosebump of shame just reading that shit... just walk away bro... the online equivalent of being on your knees and nosebleeding to oblivion.

karu · « **Reply #168 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:23:11 PM »

Bobby,

but that is not what you stated.

Quote from: Chick on October 18, 2009, 07:51:26 PM

It has never been judged

you have trouble with the english language or is it your memory?

your basic debating skills are weak.

Quote from: Chick on October 21, 2009, 07:18:18 PM

They've never judged the posing round based on POSING

They judge the posing round as another PHYSIQUE round

Fuckin retard

Chick · « **Reply #169 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:25:51 PM »

Quote from: Chick on October 19, 2009, 04:07:12 PM

Again...you speak as someone who knows not what he talks about...

First, no, it wasnt one of the things that made Pumnping Iron fun to watch..it was Arnold and Louie, and the Universe competition and the PERSONALITIES that were brought to the screen, and the look at a sub culture previuosly unknown to the masses...the posing had little to nothing to do with whether or not it was interesting.

So, a "smart" competitor uses the posing round to their advantage? How does one do that when the posing round HAS NEVER BEEN JUDGED???

Is it a few more paydays for Melvin? Or is it the ideal opportunity for everyone to elevate their game and bring something to the table worthy of winning 10, 20K?

The posing routines are simply a showcase for the fans...there is plenty of competition to be seen via the prejudging and finals/ posedown.

retard

kiwiol · « **Reply #170 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:29:40 PM »

Quote from: Alex23 on October 21, 2009, 07:08:42 PM

Chick isn't the "enemy" here, I don't understand why you KY popsicles focus all your attention on the man... it must be du jour and like sheep do...

There's a couple of them who are at least funny and creative about it (like db2431). But most of the dickheads here needlessly jump on him probably because it makes them feel like they're someone significant, esp. when Bob replies back, lol. And it's always the same boring shit that's been mentioned a trillion times before, like The Mirage, Bob's hair, Bob's sense of fashion etc etc

To quote Winged Lion, "Yaaaaaaaaaawn"

jtsunami · « **Reply #171 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:33:14 PM »

Quote from: Chick on October 21, 2009, 04:25:34 PM

uhhhh.....yeah, sure

cool awesome ty bob for the awesome reply!!!

karu · « **Reply #172 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:35:13 PM »

Bobby you are sooo fucking stupid that I'll explain it step by step

the posing round HAS NEVER BEEN JUDGED??

is not the same thing as

the posing round is judged based on physiques

your own contradictory words btw

Bobby go back to selling drugs, this stuff is above your intellect

Chick · « **Reply #173 on:** October 21, 2009, 07:40:58 PM »

Looks like it's back to being banned for you Hank Wood...

Enjoy your last night

erics · « **Reply #174 on:** October 21, 2009, 08:27:28 PM »

Going back to topic, if the posing round was only ever scored on physique, is there any reason why introducing a posing ability element into the round would be considered a bad idea?

Has the IFBB considered the idea of posing ability to separate the physiques and if they have, on what grounds was it rejected?