20% claim to be a republican- GOP needs a leader!

[BM OUT]

So... are you saying the repub party really is the party of conservatives?

if you admit the majority of your candidates were moderates, many with liberal gun, tax, abortion, and healthcare policies...

Are republicans still conservatives?  Or are they a moderate group that includes some conservatives?

No,thats the problem.The party,led by utter fools like McCain and Crist are trying to be democrat lite.They need to start putting up strong conservatives if they are to show a differance from Obama.

Look at McCain,for amnesty,for a form of cap and trade,against the bush tax cuts.He couldnt show a differance between himself and Obama.There was very little differance[at least on what they campaigned on,turns out Obama is a facist].

If your not going to stand on conservative principles,leave and go with Obama.

[George Whorewell]

I think you just showed your own lack of intelligence.  what, you need to be republican to identify as a conservative?   It never occured to you that a good portion of the 42% independents and some dems will identify themselves as conservative?  This board alone has several self identified conservatives that are not republican.

Yes, Hugo, your right. Most of the country is conservative, but only 20% are republican.

The bold section highlights your ignorance of basic mathmatics. Out of 100% of conservatives, only 20% are republican-- So then you mean to tell me the other 80% is as you put it "a large portion of the 42% of independents" ( the smallest voting bloc in the country) and a handfull of dems comprise the other 80%? 






So, the largest population of the entire republican base ( or a scant 20% of all conservatives) are republicans?

Common sense is really hard to come by on this board these days.

[shootfighter1]

Conservatives are not synonymous with republicans.  Then you have social vs. economic conservatives.
In general, conservatives are certainly alligned more with republicans then democrats...especially the progressive democrats that we have in office now.

As 33386 says, many republicans are either light democrats or they are neocons.  Neither of which are real conservatives.  Career politicians in both parties often stick together and encourage stronger government so they stay in power.

[George Whorewell]

Agreed shoot-- But then what the hell is the polling place defining as "conservative"?

A social conservative with liberal views on spending is what?

Someone with liberal views on social issues, but that is very conservative as to spending is what?

My point is that based on common sense, it is pretty hard to make an argument that only 20% of those who are so called conservative are republicans.

If most of the country is conservative, it is literally impossible for only 20% of all conservatives to be republican-- unless the definition of conservative is stretched to its breaking point or the polling place decided to survey Jupiter.

[shootfighter1]

I agree. 

That's why these labels are too simplistic.

[Soul Crusher]

I agree. 

That's why these labels are too simplistic.

I used to be more socially conservative, but now am more libertarian in my views, even though my personal beliefs may be otherwise, the govt really needs to be curtailed in all areas of influence.. 

[Hugo Chavez]

Yes, Hugo, your right. Most of the country is conservative, but only 20% are republican.

The bold section highlights your ignorance of basic mathmatics. Out of 100% of conservatives, only 20% are republican-- So then you mean to tell me the other 80% is as you put it "a large portion of the 42% of independents" ( the smallest voting bloc in the country) and a handfull of dems comprise the other 80%? 






So, the largest population of the entire republican base ( or a scant 20% of all conservatives) are republicans?

Common sense is really hard to come by on this board these days.

actually it highlights your ignorance.  BOLDLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Yea, common sense, get you some

[muscleforlife]

No,thats the problem.The party,led by utter fools like McCain and Crist are trying to be democrat lite.They need to start putting up strong conservatives if they are to show a differance from Obama.

Look at McCain,for amnesty,for a form of cap and trade,against the bush tax cuts.He couldnt show a differance between himself and Obama.There was very little differance[at least on what they campaigned on,turns out Obama is a facist].

If your not going to stand on conservative principles,leave and go with Obama.
[/quote
For the Govenor race in NJ, the Dems have had stumping...Biden, Clinton, Obama.
I was wondering where the Rep big shots were...Bush, Cheney, Palin, McCain, etc...

Why is it that these are not hot sellers in the Garden Stat since they are so well loved on blogs.

Seems lilke the candidates don't wan;t their help.
Sandra

[tonymctones]

how is biden campaigning for you going to help anybody but your opponent? I mean honestly

[doison]

240 shows his supreme intelligence yet again. Less than one month ago there was a posting here which referenced a nationwide poll that stated the majority of Americans consider themselves conservative. I also remember reading several articles that also included the poll.

So now, the majority of Americans are conservatives but only 20% claim to be republican?


 

3 of the biggest government growth years in the history of the US were 3 of Bush's first 4 years.  That ain't conservative.
I'm conservative; very conservative.  There's no way in hell I could call myself Republican in this anti-education, Palin worship, 6,000 year old earth, religious right republican party. 

[Soul Crusher]

3 of the biggest government growth years in the history of the US were 3 of Bush's first 4 years.  That ain't conservative.
I'm conservative; very conservative.  There's no way in hell I could call myself Republican in this anti-education, Palin worship, 6,000 year old earth, religious right republican party. 

I heard Steve Wynn this morning on CNBC.  He was great and i think maybe we can recruit him to win. 

[George Whorewell]

I had my first 3 some with 2 chicks I met at Tryst in the Wynn Hotel on NYE 2007...

So I have a positive imopression of him....

However--- didn't Wynn destroy a 20 million dollar painting that he owned while showing it off to his friends when he slipped and accidentlly punched his hand through the canvas?

Kinda seems to clumsy to run the GOP imo.

[Soul Crusher]

I had my first 3 some with 2 chicks I met at Tryst in the Wynn Hotel on NYE 2007...

So I have a positive imopression of him....

However--- didn't Wynn destroy a 20 million dollar painting that he owned while showing it off to his friends when he slipped and accidentlly punched his hand through the canvas?

Kinda seems to clumsy to run the GOP imo.

CHECK THIS OUT. 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1305034181&play=1#

[shootfighter1]

God bless you George.  I'm sure a great experience.

Good points here, the GOP needs some new leadership and needs to focus more on an economic and preservation of personal freedom message.  They have to be an umbrella that holds the different factions of the party together so they can get some repubs elected again and balance the government.

[George Whorewell]

See, the problem now is that being wealthy and successful is almost like having a scarlet letter in politics these days.

Steve Wynn is a brilliant businessman who operates billion dollar Casino's.

The first thing the left will do is portray him as a fat cat conservative who wants to increase Wall Street bonuses or some other nonsensical junk.

It is hard for the GOP to come up with a "leader" in the sense that people will become enamoured with the individual to the extent that the country became fixated with Obama.

The GOP isn't young/ hip/ reckless/ stupid/ idealistic/ celebrity driven.

All the GOP needs to do is present a viable candidate with alternative solutions and allow the democrats to continue shooting themselves in the foot with radical agendas and out of control spending.

[Hedgehog]

See, the problem now is that being wealthy and successful is almost like having a scarlet letter in politics these days.

Steve Wynn is a brilliant businessman who operates billion dollar Casino's.

The first thing the left will do is portray him as a fat cat conservative who wants to increase Wall Street bonuses or some other nonsensical junk.

It is hard for the GOP to come up with a "leader" in the sense that people will become enamoured with the individual to the extent that the country became fixated with Obama.

The GOP isn't young/ hip/ reckless/ stupid/ idealistic/ celebrity driven.

All the GOP needs to do is present a viable candidate with alternative solutions and allow the democrats to continue shooting themselves in the foot with radical agendas and out of control spending.

No offence.

But I would never support a man who's made his fortune on other people's misfortunes.

I bet (pun intended) this Stevie-O is a confessed Christian as well. That's glaring hypocrisy right there.

Just like I would never vote for an arms dealer, a tobacco man or similar.

I have friend who was making lots of money in the sports betting industry.

He quit cold turkey. Said he had found God. And now he's trying to become a police officer (it's pretty hard to get in over here).

But he told me he was through with the sports betting, it went against his inner compass.

I don't share his faith, but I definitely think he walked the walk when he walked out on his past life.

[Soul Crusher]

No offence.

But I would never support a man who's made his fortune on other people's misfortunes.

I bet (pun intended) this Stevie-O is a confessed Christian as well. That's glaring hypocrisy right there.

Just like I would never vote for an arms dealer, a tobacco man or similar.

I have friend who was making lots of money in the sports betting industry.

He quit cold turkey. Said he had found God. And now he's trying to become a police officer (it's pretty hard to get in over here).

But he told me he was through with the sports betting, it went against his inner compass.

I don't share his faith, but I definitely think he walked the walk when he walked out on his past life.

Why is it hypocrital?

It is a legal business no?   

[Hedgehog]

Why is it hypocrital?

It is a legal business no?   


[.quote]
How many family economies have Steves business ruined while building his fortune?

I am no fan of guys like him that's all.

Better examples are Steve Jobs of Apple, Warren Buffet and just about any inventor or entrepreneur who's creating stuff that is productive.

JMO