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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009, 10:15:26 PM »
only shitty thing is the commercials.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 10:36:57 PM »
Awesome, watching it now...
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 10:40:40 PM »
Fuck I need a comfortable computer chair, and a drink................... ........................ .....................  :'(
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 11:00:43 PM »
def invest in a good chair ... just finished watching.

that was pretty good.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 11:24:20 PM »
I smell bullshit on them not knowing where the money is.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009, 11:40:17 PM »
I smell bullshit on them not knowing where the money is.

Yep same here, she said the money that built her house came from her, but how?

I'm going to get that guys book 'Five Families' I think it was called.

JG must be rolling over in his grave with those pathetic grand children.  :-X
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2009, 12:06:17 AM »
it's not that they don't know, they know the feds will be all over it.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009, 12:08:46 AM »
it's not that they don't know, they know the feds will be all over it.

I know, but it seems like she could at least make up a decent lie/story in attempting to explain where the money came from..  :-X
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009, 12:15:06 AM »
I know, but it seems like she could at least make up a decent lie/story in attempting to explain where the money came from..  :-X

not at all, denial is her best friend in this case.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009, 12:16:19 AM »
not at all, denial is her best friend in this case.

Do you think the money was literally buried as investigators say?  Are they being "taken care of" by the crime family like on 'The Sopranos'?  ???
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009, 12:17:20 AM »
Do you think the money was literally buried as investigators say?

more like laundered.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009, 12:19:01 AM »
more like laundered.

I saw a show about money laundering via casinos, that's a business I want to get into.  ;D
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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009, 11:39:10 AM »
Yep same here, she said the money that built her house came from her, but how?

I'm going to get that guys book 'Five Families' I think it was called.

JG must be rolling over in his grave with those pathetic grand children.  :-X
EXCELLENT READ,,,, cover to cover into the start of the original 5 and then what they became,from the castellamare wars to about 2005,lucchese,gambino,colombo,bonanno,genevose,lucky luciano the family name changed into genevose .bonanno is probably one of the only mob bosses ever let to "retire'kinda of a push actually.colombo was shot and was unable to run his family for the last yrs.the lore of the old mafia is really interesting to read or watch,and not the kind of flashy "hey how ya doing type"but the real ceremony and how they trace what and how they do to the old caesar times is really interesting.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 01:48:53 PM »
EXCELLENT READ,,,, cover to cover into the start of the original 5 and then what they became,from the castellamare wars to about 2005,lucchese,gambino,colombo,bonanno,genevose,lucky luciano the family name changed into genevose .bonanno is probably one of the only mob bosses ever let to "retire'kinda of a push actually.colombo was shot and was unable to run his family for the last yrs.the lore of the old mafia is really interesting to read or watch,and not the kind of flashy "hey how ya doing type"but the real ceremony and how they trace what and how they do to the old caesar times is really interesting.

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 03:00:02 PM »
Gotti girl weeps

[audio is in the article]
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gotti_girl_weeps_lf6erC1V8v44xPYrtlmNyL

The eldest child of the late John Gotti broke down at her brother's trial yesterday as their father's voice boomed out from beyond the grave.

Angel Gotti sniffled and wiped away tears as prosecutors played a 1994 tape of John "Junior" Gotti talking behind bars with his dad, who was then serving a life sentence at the federal pen in Marion, Ill.

The feds also showed jurors photos of the late Gambino family crime boss -- who died of cancer in 2002 -- including one of him smiling broadly into the camera.

"I don't like to hear my father talking," Angel Gotti told The Post afterward. "How would you like to hear someone who died? It upset me very much. It's hard for me to see and hear him."

 The 7-minute, 15-second recording from March 19, 1994, featured father and son discussing the grand-jury testimony of reputed Gambino soldier Carmine Agnello, who at the time was married to Junior's sister, Victoria.

Junior said Agnello "went in and took responsibility" for paying off a juror at the 1989 heroin-trafficking trial of the elder Gotti's brother, Gene, after scoring an immunity deal from federal prosecutors.

Junior Gotti said "all the lawyers involved" hailed it as a "very ingenious move" that left prosecutors "crying over f - - -ing sour grapes."

But the elder Gotti said "I woulda never in a million years suggested him to say that. I woulda tell them to go f - - - themselves."

He added, "If there was a church robbed and I had the steeple stickin' out of my ass, I wouldn't tell them I did it."

It's Junior's fourth conspiracy trial; the others ended in hung juries.


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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2009, 03:03:27 PM »
Gotti heard calling jury tampering 'ingenious move'

John "Junior" Gotti called an  effort he allegedly masterminded to derail a federal jury-tampering investigation an "ingenious move" as he tried to impress his late father in a tape-recorded 1994 jailhouse conversation that was played at the Gambino family prince's murder-and-racketeering trial Wednesday.

Gotti, according to earlier testimony from former lieutenant John Alite, set up a plan to identify and compromise jurors in the 1989 heroin trafficking trial of his uncle Gene Gotti, and then stymied a federal probe by having brother-in-law Carmine Agnello take responsibility after Agnello got an immunity grant from a grand jury.

His father, Gambino boss John J. Gotti, imprisoned in 1994 in Marion, Ill., was skeptical - at least on tape. He told his son he hadn't known about the plan in advance and didn't like the idea of family members talking to a grand jury under any circumstances.

"If there was a church I robbed and I had the steeple sticking out of my --, I wouldn't say nothin,' " Gotti told his son on the tape played in federal court in Manhattan.

The younger Gotti said it had stopped prosecutors in their tracks.

"From what I was told, it was a very ingenious move," he told his father. " . . . I was told by all the lawyers, all the lawyers involved, it was a very ingenious move."

His father praised him: "Well then, whoever done it should get stripes or somethin.' "

"Junior" Gotti, 45, of Oyster Bay, is being tried for the fourth time in five years on racketeering charges. His first three trials ended in hung juries, but Alite is a new witness, and his testimony that the younger Gotti oversaw a system of spotters with walkie-talkies to track and identify anonymous jurors is a new allegation. Prosecutors Wednesday called Mineola lawyer Robert LaRusso, who prosecuted Gene Gotti, to describe how two earlier trials ended in hung juries. LaRusso also testified how one juror in Gene Gotti's 1989 retrial was disqualified after getting an anonymous note and was replaced by an alternate juror who, it turned out, had been tampered with. Another former prosecutor described how Agnello "took the weight" before the grand jury.

That was Gotti's plan, Alite testified two weeks ago: "Carmine would get the immunity, and once he gets the immunity he would BS the government and take the blame for everything, because once he gets immunity, the government can't do nothing about it."

In earlier testimony Wednesday, a prosecution informant admitted on cross-examination that he wasn't sure John "Junior" Gotti ever received tribute payments from him in 2004 that he had described on Monday, leaving Gotti's claim that he withdrew from the mob in the late 1990s viable.

Former Gotti associate Michael Finnerty, one day after testifying about a $5,000 payment in 2004 that appeared to puncture Gotti's defense that he left the mob before the five-year statute of limitations for racketeering, conceded he passed the payment through an associate, not to Gotti.

"When he was the boss," Finnerty told defense lawyer Charles Carnesi. "He had crew members above me and I gave the money to them."


http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/gotti-heard-calling-jury-tampering-ingenious-move-1.1523141

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Re: Our Father...The Godfather - CBS 48 Hours Mystery - full video
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 11:33:37 AM »
JR IS NO TEFLON DON..has different persona than dad,wants to beat this but this what the government wants to get every gotti away that were at one time a major player,they the gotti's pretty much ran the gambino family into the ground, but organized crime no matter who's involved will still thrive.but due to to the increased desire to beat the rap the govt allows these guys to flip,the old mafia stigma,code,ways are long dead.the term "wanabbe"fits this new type to a t....

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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2009, 03:31:42 PM »
JR IS NO TEFLON DON..has different persona than dad,wants to beat this but this what the government wants to get every gotti away that were at one time a major player,they the gotti's pretty much ran the gambino family into the ground, but organized crime no matter who's involved will still thrive.but due to to the increased desire to beat the rap the govt allows these guys to flip,the old mafia stigma,code,ways are long dead.the term "wanabbe"fits this new type to a t....

check out this comment from that article I posted above

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Gotti was the biggest lowlife and despised by everyone in the mob. He highhandedly destroyed the mob and his lowlife family continues to destroy the Italians every time they put on one of these woe is me displays for the media. A vicious thug who violated the most sacred tenet of the mob life of keeping a low profile. Gotti may as well have been on the FBI payroll for all the damage he caused. I still wish the Feds would spend as much time on the Russians as they do on the five Italians left in NY.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/gotti_girl_weeps_lf6erC1V8v44xPYrtlmNyL