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Author Topic: The TRUE Mr. Olympias...  (Read 3387 times)
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2009, 04:08:26 AM »

I'd say 2002 there's a strong argument for Kevin winning, even though Ronnie absolutely killed him in legs and back. But Ronnie's gut was big and arms strangely small.

2000, however, was scary dominance from Ronnie, perfect score.


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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2009, 04:19:12 AM »

I'd say 2002 there's a strong argument for Kevin winning, even though Ronnie absolutely killed him in legs and back. But Ronnie's gut was big and arms strangely small.

2000, however, was scary dominance from Ronnie, perfect score.


So, Bodybuilding is all about “Back” for you.  Huh

There are other muscles called “Triceps & Calves that Ronnie doesn’t have.

There are some body parts that Kevin Kills Ronnie in e. g, Shoulders, Chest, Traps & Abs.

There are things called aesthetic physique, great lines & small waistline which Ronnie has none of these.

Translation: Ronnie’s Back> Kevin’s Back
                 Kevin’s other things >>>>>>>>>>> Ronnie’s EVERY THINGS!
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2009, 04:36:14 AM »

Back's pretty important for Mr O. Glute and ham conditioning is also a big deal for judges as it indicates overall conditioning and is the hardest place to lose fat and water.

You're right about delts and traps, but chest....no way does Kevin have a better chest. Also, are you claiming from those pics that Kevin has bigger calves? WTF? He has no calves at all. Way smaller/worse quads. Legs and back make up about 2/3 of the muscle on your body. Ronnie clearly has massive triceps, although his biceps are more of a standout bodypart yes. You don't get 22-23 inch arms with no triceps.

Aesthetics goes to Kevin, but as Branch Warren says, there's another word for "aesthetics", SMALL haha. Bob Paris never won Mr Olympia, although he looked great. Flea Labrada never beat Haney to Mr O. Kevin is smaller everywhere except maybe delts, since Ronnie's traps from the back are still bigger. Is this a bodybuildong competition or a pretty boy contest?

I've now included a pic from the front to this effect.
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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2009, 04:47:27 AM »

Back's pretty important for Mr O. Glute and ham conditioning is also a big deal for judges as it indicates overall conditioning and is the hardest place to lose fat and water.

You're right about delts and traps, but chest....no way does Kevin have a better chest. Also, are you claiming from those pics that Kevin has bigger calves? WTF? He has no calves at all. Way smaller/worse quads. Legs and back make up about 2/3 of the muscle on your body. Ronnie clearly has massive triceps, although his biceps are more of a standout bodypart yes. You don't get 22-23 inch arms with no triceps.

Aesthetics goes to Kevin, but as Branch Warren says, there's another word for "aesthetics", SMALL haha. Bob Paris never won Mr Olympia, although he looked great. Flea Labrada never beat Haney to Mr O. Kevin is smaller everywhere except maybe delts, since Ronnie's traps from the back are still bigger. Is this a bodybuildong competition or a pretty boy contest?

I've now included a pic from the front to this effect.


Well, I liked your analysis methods.  I couldn’t have said it better than you.  Smiley

You are right that Ronnie is the only bodybuilder that carried the most muscles mass and displayed it in the greatest condition ever possible for that mass.

However, the reason that I have Kevin beat him is that I lane toward to more aesthetic physiques which Kevin, Shawn & Flex have.

So, I think I am looking at bodybuilding as “The Prettiest Aesthetic Physiques With Enough Mass & Condition” Which is obviously is not the real case.  Undecided Wink


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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2009, 04:55:35 AM »


I would agree with the results of all the Mr Olympia winners we've had going back to 1990 with the exception of:

1991 (when Yates should have won)
1994 (when Shawn should have won)
2002 (when Levrone should have won)
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2009, 05:02:43 AM »

front double biceps: ronnie
back double biceps: ronnie
rear lat spread: ronnie
front lat spread: ronnie
most muscular: even
abs & thighs: kevin
side tris: kevin
kevin gets owned in back, legs........ game over
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2009, 05:09:42 AM »


Well, I liked your analysis methods.  I couldn’t have said it better than you.  Smiley

You are right that Ronnie is the only bodybuilder that carried the most muscles mass and displayed it in the greatest condition ever possible for that mass.

However, the reason that I have Kevin beat him is that I lane toward to more aesthetic physiques which Kevin, Shawn & Flex have.

So, I think I am looking at bodybuilding as “The Prettiest Aesthetic Physiques With Enough Mass & Condition” Which is obviously is not the real case.  Undecided Wink


Well yeah I would agree in that case, although Ronnie has looked pretty aethetic in the past.

This vid is alwas an interesting watch.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Nn7l7Dpdc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Nn7l7Dpdc</a>
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2009, 05:00:46 PM »

Well yeah I would agree in that case, although Ronnie has looked pretty aethetic in the past.

This vid is alwas an interesting watch.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Nn7l7Dpdc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Nn7l7Dpdc</a>

Great video
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2009, 09:50:34 PM »

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But Ronnie's gut was big and arms strangely small.

huh?

his arms dwarfed Kevin's and were the biggest onstage:


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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2009, 10:09:39 AM »

this is what bodybuilding should be all about, no person in their right mind would look at this pic and say he doesn't look awesome



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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2009, 10:30:56 AM »

Kevin had pretty underdeveloped glutes ( no homo )

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2009, 02:40:39 PM »

huh?

his arms dwarfed Kevin's and were the biggest onstage:

He clearly stated 2002. That pic is from 2000.
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« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2009, 03:55:59 PM »

 Cool
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« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2009, 05:23:46 PM »

Great video
Increadible talent in the 1991 show, Flex and kevin looked excellent
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2009, 05:26:52 PM »

this is what bodybuilding should be all about, no person in their right mind would look at this pic and say he doesn't look awesome



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I don't look awesome.  Undecided
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« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2009, 06:05:38 PM »

He clearly stated 2002. That pic is from 2000.

you're right.

my bad.
 
in 2002 ronnie's arms were strangely small.

but he was trying to diet down and get like his AC form, which didn't work. he lost way too much muscle..
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2009, 06:47:41 PM »

2009 - Cutler
2008 - Jackson Heath
2007 - Martinez
2006 - Cutler
2005 - Coleman
2004 - Coleman
2003 - Coleman
2002 - Cormier Levrone
2001 - Cutler
2000 - Levrone Coleman

1999 - Coleman
1998 - Coleman
1997 - El Sonbaty
1996 - Ray
1995 - Yates
1994 - Ray
1993 - Yates
1992 - Yates Levrone
1991 - Haney
1990 - Labrada
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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2009, 07:06:07 PM »

Ray did not deserve the 96 Olympia, and neither did Levrone in 92.
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