Author Topic: Mentzer owning Schwarzenigger? (Read 13389 times)

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #25 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:37:29 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on October 30, 2009, 05:34:18 AM

Allmost every bodybuilder trains their muscles every 7-9 day nowdays thenks to Mentzer and Yates influence

I will say that he was a bit extreme on how little exercises and sets it takes for the best growth. But it works for some people it seems.

But the best bodybuilder ever trained every muscle atleast twice a week.

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:39:37 AM »

Quote from: Pollux on October 30, 2009, 05:23:10 AM

Exactly.

Pretty funny how Mike confused Arnold's name with Arthur not once, but twice.

Yes..because they were the two men in his life he was most obsessed with. Arthur Jones was his mentor and God...and Arnold became his Satan, the evil catalyst that triggered his downward descent into madness.

MAXX · « **Reply #27 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:41:59 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on October 30, 2009, 05:37:29 AM

But the best bodybuilder ever trained every muscle atleast twice a week.

Who? Arnold?

jprc10 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:45:48 AM »

Well, to make things simple enough look where Arnold's thinking got him: 7 time Mr. Olympia, one of the most succesful hollywood actors and California governor. Then look where Mentzer got with his thinking.

Plus, Mentzer always seemed to be jealous of Arnold, why would he critize him so much then?

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #29 on:** October 30, 2009, 05:50:13 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on October 30, 2009, 05:41:59 AM

Who? Arnold?

Yep.

lax · « **Reply #30 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:00:27 AM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on October 29, 2009, 06:12:44 PM

Did I ever mention his wealth?

Edit: I mentioned Mentzer probably being flat broke but that's just an indicator that he was not successful in his ventures.

at its zenith
Mentzer's mail-order business was generating 800K in sales per year
I know he had a home and several cars at one point, not necessarily indicators of 'wealth'

affeman · « **Reply #31 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:07:36 AM »

Mentzer sports Nasser-like bitterness.

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #32 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:11:04 AM »

Quote from: Bast175 on October 29, 2009, 06:06:38 PM

Money isn't the only currency of happiness.

Being alive > Being dead

lovemonkey · « **Reply #33 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:12:10 AM »

Quote from: lax on October 30, 2009, 06:00:27 AM

at its zenith
Mentzer's mail-order business was generating 800K in sales per year
I know he had a home and several cars at one point, not necessarily indicators of 'wealth'

Ok fair enough, he obviously had money then.

affeman · « **Reply #34 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:12:30 AM »

Quote from: Okami on October 30, 2009, 06:11:04 AM

Being alive > Being dead

Have you been to the other side?

haider · « **Reply #35 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:12:57 AM »

Quote from: Okami on October 30, 2009, 06:11:04 AM

Being alive > Being dead

i guess u've been dead before?

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #36 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:14:20 AM »

Quote from: haider on October 30, 2009, 06:12:57 AM

i guess u've been dead before?

Fuck off

lax · « **Reply #37 on:** October 30, 2009, 06:20:37 AM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on October 30, 2009, 06:12:10 AM

Ok fair enough, he obviously had money then.

I also know he ended up living in an apartment with brother Ray at time of their deaths...so...who knows...maybe all that meth he supposedly smoked drained his resources

Noel Fuller · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2009, 08:11:54 AM »

I think Arnold won this one.

Danimal77 · « **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2009, 02:38:12 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on October 29, 2009, 06:02:26 PM

Ehm one went completely nuts in the 80's, died in 2001 probably flat broke, the other one won 7 mr. Olympias, became one of the highest paid actors in Hollywood with a trademark look and sound that's known over the entire world and now is the two time governor of California.

Who got owned here?

Mike spoke the truth. Arnold didn't. Got him far too.

HTexan · « **Reply #40 on:** October 30, 2009, 03:00:46 PM »

I disagree about the not trying part. People should work, hustle and try their hardest if they willing want something.
He has some good points tho.

regmac · « **Reply #41 on:** October 30, 2009, 07:15:21 PM »

Quote from: Danimal77 on October 30, 2009, 02:38:12 PM

Mike spoke the truth. Arnold didn't. Got him far too.

Bill Pearl said it best regarding Arnold. "He a taker not a giver."

Bast175 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 30, 2009, 08:30:23 PM »

I did a HIT workout yesterday. each rep was 6-8 seconds, very painful on the last few reps on sets to failure. I did 2-3 sets to failure for each muscle. biceps, triceps, delts, traps in that workout. I'm sore.

PJim · « **Reply #43 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:39:36 PM »

Quote from: Bast175 on October 30, 2009, 08:30:23 PM

I did a HIT workout yesterday. each rep was 6-8 seconds, very painful on the last few reps on sets to failure. I did 2-3 sets to failure for each muscle. biceps, triceps, delts, traps in that workout. I'm sore.

Good stuff.

Silverback Gorilla · « **Reply #44 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:43:56 PM »

Quote from: mfrank on October 29, 2009, 07:02:11 PM

Mentzer was right about a lot. His philosophy of HIT helped me when I was making no gains. Classic case of over training and under eating. At one point I was training legs and back three times a week. now I train them only once a week and am able to constantly progress. I do two working sets per exercise, similar to Yates.

What he said about less training, but more intensity was right on the money; especially for a natural like myself.

QFT.

Pecs · « **Reply #45 on:** October 30, 2009, 11:23:10 PM »

it is cool to try doing the ultra low sets heavy duty routine once in a while

pellius · « **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2009, 01:23:13 AM »

Quote from: lax on October 30, 2009, 06:00:27 AM

at its zenith
Mentzer's mail-order business was generating 800K in sales per year
I know he had a home and several cars at one point, not necessarily indicators of 'wealth'

How do you know this? I find that very hard to believe. When I bought his courses in the early 1980's the whole set was like $25.00. Say an average order (books, courses, whatever) is $30.00. He'd have to be selling over 26,000 of these a year.

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #47 on:** October 31, 2009, 02:12:23 AM »

Is it true that both Mentzer brothers were regularly involved in seedy activities together for the benefit of wealthy supporters?
Not sure if they performed on the wealthy gays or performed with each other. That sort of stuff would certainly turn one insane and into an early grave.

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 31, 2009, 07:32:21 AM »

Quote from: pellius on October 31, 2009, 01:23:13 AM

How do you know this? I find that very hard to believe. When I bought his courses in the early 1980's the whole set was like $25.00. Say an average order (books, courses, whatever) is $30.00. He'd have to be selling over 26,000 of these a year.

Bob kennedy, publisher of Musclemag International, made that claim about Mentzer a few years back. This was supposed to be in the late 70's. When I met Mentzer when I was 16, in 1978, he was living in a two bedroom apartment, in Venice. So I'm not sure how accurate the 800k a year claim is, unless it happened after the time I was there.

sean · « **Reply #49 on:** October 31, 2009, 09:27:58 AM »

Made some good points selling the HIT concept, but didnt he also believe that with the added exercise routine, one would only need an additional 7grams of protein a day to compensate? Literally, like one extra egg?