For how many weeks have you tried dbol?

[Meso_z]

And at what dosages?

[Overload]

I took 60mgs a day for about 6 months one time.

Liver values stayed within 5% of my base value pre-dbol.

[Tats]

I took 60mgs a day for about 6 months one time.

Liver values stayed within 5% of my base value pre-dbol.

This is not recommended.

[nunzi]

that seems pretty crazy.  Guess it has to do with how long you've been doing gear for.  How your body responds.
 
Obviously getting ur levels tested often is recommended. 

Ive been doing gear for years and about to try dbol for the first time this upcoming cycle.  And i was questioning 4 weeks or 6 lol

[4thAD]

This is not recommended.

I don't think OL was recommending anything. Just stating his run as asked by the OP.

[Overload]

I don't think OL was recommending anything. Just stating his run as asked by the OP.

Exactly.

I've run some major cycles over the years and after almost 2 years of being clean I'm perfectly healthy in every way.

Nunzi - 4-6 weeks of dbol is about the minimum IMO. Personally i would run it at least twice that length, but that's me. The toxicity of Dbol is highly over exaggerated and i wouldn't even worry one bit about using it for a few months as long as you are in good health with no preexisting conditions.

[tbombz]

just a few days of any oral, esp. dbol, and i can feel my gut churning and my appetite is completely non existant.

if you dont have any side effects like that, or yellowish eyes or dark urine... then your probably doing okay liver-wise...    as oL said, the toxicity is over exagerated..  the same guys who would warn you about a few tabs of dbol every day are going out and drinking 2 quarts of vodka on the weekends..


as for myself, i had abused dbol for a few months last fall and that pretty much took away my ability to withstand any orals..

[Overload]

just a few days of any oral, esp. dbol, and i can feel my gut churning and my appetite is completely non existant.

Yeah all orals killed my appetite, mainly Halo and Dbol.

Drinking is worse for your liver than some dbol, by a long shot.

[Luolamies]

9 weeks has been the longest so far for me, 7-8 is my norm.

[nunzi]

hey overload.

 this will b my first cycle with dbol.  ive been doing gear for the last 4 years. and never tried it.  i was gonna go 4 weeks at 30mg.  but sum other bros said to go 6 at 30mg.  so u recommend 12 weeks for the first time for dbol. (why)     wouldnt 6 b more than enough especially since its my first time with orals.

Its a short cycle
12 weeks
500-750mg of test enth  not sure yet
and 400 mg deca.

figured 6 weeks of dbol would b more than enough...

thoughts?

[4thAD]

hey overload.

 this will b my first cycle with dbol.  ive been doing gear for the last 4 years. and never tried it.  i was gonna go 4 weeks at 30mg.  but sum other bros said to go 6 at 30mg.  so u recommend 12 weeks for the first time for dbol. (why)     wouldnt 6 b more than enough especially since its my first time with orals.

Its a short cycle
12 weeks
500-750mg of test enth  not sure yet
and 400 mg deca.

figured 6 weeks of dbol would b more than enough...

thoughts?

Be careful here Nunzi he wasnt recommending you run dbol for any amount of time. Again he was stating what he would do. For a first run I would personally run it @ 30-40mg ed for 6 weeks. When the cycle is over get some blood work done and see how you tolerated everything. The last thing you want to do is compromise your body. What OL can tolerate some may not be able to, because of other underlying problems.

[Overload]

Be careful here Nunzi he wasnt recommending you run dbol for any amount of time. Again he was stating what he would do. For a first run I would personally run it @ 30-40mg ed for 6 weeks. When the cycle is over get some blood work done and see how you tolerated everything. The last thing you want to do is compromise your body. What OL can tolerate some may not be able to, because of other underlying problems.

I concur.

Nunzi - Since it's your first run with Dbol i would only run it for 6 weeks to see how you react to it, some people react differently than others.

Good luck.

[nunzi]

ok cool.  Was just curious why you said 12 weeks.  more curious about the pros and cons for 12 weeks.  Doesnt the gains slow down drastically at a certain time.  Info would b for future go arounds. and for personal knowledge.  Thanx bro

And what is it about orals and appettite loss??

[Overload]

ok cool.  Was just curious why you said 12 weeks.  more curious about the pros and cons for 12 weeks.  Doesnt the gains slow down drastically at a certain time.  Info would b for future go arounds. and for personal knowledge.  Thanx bro

And what is it about orals and appettite loss??

12 weeks is just what i prefer to run. I didn't know your cycle plans so i just said what i prefer. For your cycle 6 weeks will be plenty.

Gains shouldn't slow down at any point really, that is determined more by your diet, training and resting protocols. Sure once you are full swing into the cycle your gains may slow down because your body is adapting to that current hormonal state, but it's not something to worry about and simply changing your diet and training protocol should help break past that. With the amounts of hormones in your system it is "theoretically" impossible for gains to stop at all. There should never be a point in any cycle where your gains halt, if that does happen you are probably not eating or resting enough.

Any 17aa oral can suppress appetite, just some people get it worse than others. This is why some people prefer to take orals with food or without food. Doesn't really matter when you take it, as long as it is in your blood stream on a consistant basis.

[Dr Loomis]

I took 60mgs a day for about 6 months one time.

Liver values stayed within 5% of my base value pre-dbol.

Same here

[tbombz]

There should never be a point in any cycle where your gains halt, if that does happen you are probably not eating or resting enough.

qft