No disrespect to Vinve but like I SAID he was NEVER an Olympia contender like Shawn, Kevin and Flex where. Matter of fact those 3 are tied for being THE UNCROWNED MR O!!!!! Just because Vince has beaten them at times means nothing it just means one of those 3 f'd up. Those 3 were an inch from winning the Sandow. Vince never had a chance. He was never a runner up!!! So I stand by what I said. Better than Shawn?? You must be the one on crack...he's beaten Shawn but he was not BETTER ....as for Nasser .......Nasser WAS a runner up !!!!!! So what's your point.
he's beaten shawn but was not better?...lol..
so what does "better" mean then?....oh i get it, in your eyes.
1989 vince smoked ray, and even in 91 when he was considerably off he smoked him. No doubt that Taylor was better than Ray. You just need to look at them both and its a no brainer. the only time shawn beat vince at an o was when vince was an old man and on his retirement year.
Also, when they actually competed against each other, shawn was in all time best shape. he didnt fuck it up. the year vince fucked it up , he still beat an in shape ray. Vince was superior to Ray.
To put nasser in for comparison is to have shit in your eyes. i wont even comment. this uncrowned mr o stuff is ridiculous. Now, as far as comparing who's better by different years placings is stupid also. You can only compare them when they were against each other- and , as you're clearly stating, at a mr.o. Which i have done..and vince wins.
so using your own argument, your "facts" are actually wrong.