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« on: May 21, 2005, 09:44:58 AM »

According to The Nutritional Underground, they are still doing mandatories, but Dareem Charles looks awesome.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2005, 12:36:50 PM »

thanks for the update solid
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2005, 02:15:44 PM »

Darrem Charles will win this show. He looks great, and since he is considered the front runner of the pack - my guess is that the judges will pick him. He was in better shape in other contests - but since that doesnt count - and it only counts what the see here - then Darrem is the man. Of course - this is New York - and Darrem is from Florida and Victor Martinez is a hometown boy.

Victor Martinez will take second - but since the judges are New Yorkers - they may be swayed and put his in first. I think though - wisdom may prevail and Victor will take second.  Victor looked better last year before he went to jail but since the top 10 at the Olympia are not here, Victor - the New York man - will be second.

Third will be Ahmad Haidar. Abs, shape, looks great - but not from New York. Damn, those biased judges.

Fourth will be Chris Cook.  Looks great, and they want him to compete at the Olympia, so here is goes! Congrats Chris!

Fifth will be Capriese Murray. Didnt see that coming - but one of the pros who is truly in compete shape for this contest! Nice to see that.

Sixth will be George Farah. Hometown New York crowd loves George, and he looks good.

Seventh will be Craig Richardson. Big, in shape, ready for battle.

Eigth will be Bob Cicherillo. Why not. IFBB Athletes Rep, and looks better than he did at San Francisco.

The lineup in order of appearance.

1. Onder Adsay
2. Francisco Bautista
3. Gennaro Brigante
4. Jimmy Canyon
5. Darrem Charles
6. Bob Cicherillo
7. Simon Cohen
8. Chris Cook
9. George Farah
10. Miguel O. Jesus
11. Neil Gardner
12. Kai Green
13. Ahmad Haidar
14. Will Harris
15. Kenny Jones
16. Berry Kabov
17. Heiko Kallbach
18. Michael Kindred
19. Christian Lobarade
20. Jeff Long
21. Patrick Lynn
22. Victor Martinez
23. Mustafa Mohammad
24. Capriese Murray
25. Manfred Petautschnig
26. Greg Rando
27. Craig Richardson
28. Rudy Soloman
29. Heinz Senior
30. Ricky Welling
31. Luke Wood
32. Jason Arntz
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2005, 02:16:58 PM »

Just left Prejudging here is my quick take on the show:

Darrem 1st Place Unanimously! Grin
 (Still off his best, competing a bit too heavy,Hams Small from the side, possibly peaking in Toronto)

2nd: Amhad Haidar
(Great Abs, Nice Color, Great Madatories, No depth in Back, Hams Slim from the side, Balance overall in Condition and Shape)

3rd: Craig Richardson
(Nice Shape, Good condition, Light in Back Thickness, Great Muscular Shots, High Lats)

4th: Victor Martinez
(Holding a bit of water, way off his last victory at the GNC, Smooth Thighs, Lower Absnot in, Butt too big)

5th: Caprice Murray
(Freaky proportions, Thick Skin, High Lats, Vascular all over)

6th: Chris Cook
(Nice Debut, Good Mandatories, best shot is Front Lat Spread, Fair Condition, better at Nationals, Appears Bigger)

Toss up:
Possibly Martinez gets a nod over Richardson but I wouldn't allow that, as Richardson shows improvement where Martinez appears off and behind schedulefor him but we are in New York and Victor has that advantage which should not be fair but history proves otherwise.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2005, 02:20:27 PM »

Thanks, TK! Great report!

Can you make any comments regarding the new "extended stomach" policy?

Is anything nociteable in that regards?

Any problems on stage and does it appear that the judges are takeing it into consideration?

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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2005, 02:22:45 PM »



Shawn,

What about mustafa - u didnt mention him Roll Eyes Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2005, 02:25:43 PM »

Round One

Callout #1: Darrem Charles, Victor Martinez, Craig Richardson, Ahmad Haidar
Callout #2: Victor Martinez, Caprise Murray, Craig Richardson, Chris Cook

Round Two

Callout #1: Darrem Charles, Victor Martinez, Craig Richardson, Ahmad Haidar
Callout #2: Caprise Murray, Craig Richardson, Victor Martinez, Chris Cook, Luke Wood
Callout #3: Bob Cicherillo, George Farah, Chris Cook, Paco Bautista, Luke Wood
Callout #4: Mustafa Mohammed, Luke Wood, Paco Bautista
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2005, 02:26:24 PM »

Smooth running show, a couple of Guts but not in contention.
Patrick Lynn had better watch his stomach ASAP! Shocked
Heiko Kollenbach is hard and dry but the Gut is appearent.
The guy from Chile, Christian Loborde needs to stop competing and work on improving.
Same Ken Jones on stage, "Thanks for the diet tips Milos!" Grin
Now I know why the call Caprise the "Mutant"
31 or 32 guys on stage a bit crowded. Undecided
Luke Wood from Australia made good improvements!
Mustafa missed his peak by about 2 weeks, needs to be drier but that could get scary!
"Curly Top" gives everyone a big Florida Shout Out, now that he moved there!
Will try to report more tomorrow morning after the results are in. Cool
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2005, 03:06:18 PM »

And what about attendance?  Were they able to fill up the auditorium?
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2005, 03:17:58 PM »

And what about attendance?  Were they able to fill up the auditorium?

The afternoon session had a solid turnout and the finals are just about sold out. 

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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2005, 03:19:06 PM »


Some shots from the women's prejudging:

http://www.femflex.com/free/picthumb/20050521nypropre/index00.htm
http://www.femflex.com/free/picthumb/20050521nypropre/index01.htm
http://www.femflex.com/free/picthumb/20050521nypropre/index02.htm
http://www.femflex.com/free/picthumb/20050521nypropre/index03.htm
http://www.femflex.com/free/picthumb/20050521nypropre/index04.htm
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2005, 03:31:55 PM »

The Tribecca Peforming Arts Theater seats about 1,000 people. The City Center in New York last year sat around 2,500 people. There was no question that they would sell out the prejuding and finals, but even when they say it was sold it, there is still 1,500 people less than there were last year. Pro bodybuilding in New York should be bigger than this.

However, kodus to the promoter for making the show a good one - about bodybuilding and nothing else.


From Flex's Shawn Perrine, on what he things:

Will Darrem Charles overcome last year's disappointing and narrow defeat at the hands of Melvin Anthony to win his first pro title in New York? Only the New York Pro judges know for sure, but from the looks of things after the prejudging, it seems he may very well leave the Big Apple humming the tune "New York, New York."

Darrem received first callouts in both the symmetry and muscularity rounds and was asked to pose for the judges only one time during round one, a good sign to be sure. Although his conditioning was not quite on par with that of the Darrem we've come to know this past decade, his newfound mass, particularly in his upper body, and pleasing shape provided the one-two punch the judges were looking for.

Ahmad Haidar seems to be in good position to nail down the runner-up spot. Haidar, like Charles, is a tad off from his usual stellar conditioning. But he too has added some mass and his overall lines are some of the best in the business. A case could even be made for giving Ahmad the nod over Darrem, based on his superhero-like proportions.

Victor Martinez and Craig Richardson seem to be battling it out for third. Victor, the hometown favorite, missed his peak it seems. He's got the size and shape of course, but looks to be maybe two weeks from achieving the stellar conditioning he displayed at this event's forbear two years ago. Craig seems to be a beneficiary of the new IFBB advisory which re-establishes a preference for aesthetic physiques over merely massive ones. As is the case with the vast majority of competitors, Craig is a bit watery, but has enough God-given shape to settle him onto the finalists' stage.

Freaky Capriese Murray looks to be headed for fifth place. He truly resembles a cartoon character with his w-i-i-i-de shoulders and tiny waist and flaring quads. Murray is one of the few guys who really nailed his conditioning too. But incongruous lumps in his delt region probably have not gone unnoticed by the judges, for whom the new advisory is obviously being taken in earnest.

Rookie pro Chris Cook should take sixth. He looks very, very good. A slight case of subcutaneous H2O is the only thing keeping him from the top five. Of note is the fact that Chris has markedly improved upon his chest and back development, even in the six months since his Nationals win.

Seventh through tenth should include Bob Cicherillo, George Farah, Mustafa Mohammad and Luke Wood, possibly in that order. Dorian Yates and Bev Francis will be co-emceeing tonight's show and we'll be right here to relay their final placing announcements within moments after they occur. Stay tuned!
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2005, 03:44:09 PM »

Smooth running show, a couple of Guts but not in contention.
Patrick Lynn had better watch his stomach ASAP! Shocked
Heiko Kollenbach is hard and dry but the Gut is appearent.
The guy from Chile, Christian Loborde needs to stop competing and work on improving.
Same Ken Jones on stage, "Thanks for the diet tips Milos!" Grin
Now I know why the call Caprise the "Mutant"
31 or 32 guys on stage a bit crowded. Undecided
Luke Wood from Australia made good improvements!
Mustafa missed his peak by about 2 weeks, needs to be drier but that could get scary!
"Curly Top" gives everyone a big Florida Shout Out, now that he moved there!
Will try to report more tomorrow morning after the results are in. Cool
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Hey Shawn, I knew Curley Top when he lived in Atlanta . I'm in Fla now too , where is Top at? Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 08:19:57 PM »

I just came from the show and Darrem won. I felt it could either his way or to Victor, but Darrem won. I'm glad for him, because he put on more mass, but he looked good. Ahmad was the surprise number two, I don't think anyone in attendance saw this coming. Call it a statement by the judges, but I didn't see it coming. Victor what can I say, in my opinion he was robbed, I know he was losing it as the show went on, but gimme a break, if not first he should of gotten second (but I'm bias, I'm from New York and from uptown). The rest is history Craig came in forth and Capriese came in fifth.

1 Darrem Charles Trinidad 5 5 5 5 20 
2 Ahmad Haidar Lebanon 14 13 15 11 53 
3 Victor Martinez USA 13 16 14 14 57 
4 Craig Richardson USA 20 21 18 20 79 
5 Capriese Murray USA 25 21 29 25 100 
6 Chris Cook USA 28 30 28  86 
7 Luke Wood Australia 42 41 41  124 
8 Bob Cicherillo USA 49 40 43  132 
9 Francisco Bautista Spain 45 43 45  133 
10 Mustafa Mohammad Jordan 50 51 46  147 
11 Onder Adsay USA 45 56 57  158 
12 George Farah USA 54 52 54  160 
13 Migues O Jesus Filho USA 68 71 68  207 
14 Kai Green USA 75 72 70  217 
15 Jason Arntz USA 77 76 72  225 

16 Gennaro Brigante USA 
16 Jimmy Canyon USA 
16 Simon Cohen England 
16 Neil Gardner Australia 
16 Will Harris USA 
16 Kenny Jones USA 
16 Berry Kabov USA 
16 Heiko Kallbach Germany 
16 Michael Kindred USA 
16 Christian Lobarade Chile 
16 Jeff Long USA 
16 Patrick Lynn USA 
16 Manfred Petautschnig Austria 
16 Greg Rando ISA 
16 Rudy Soloman Canada 
16 Heinz Senior USA 
16 Ricky Welling England 
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2005, 08:28:59 PM »

Nobody mentioned Bob Cicherillo yet...
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2005, 10:57:34 PM »


Murray was better than Martinez.
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2005, 02:33:00 AM »

I checked your pics out, Tre. I think Annie R looked really good and was the best. Also very good: Heather Foster, Sarah Dunlap. /C.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2005, 04:50:10 AM »

For Steve Weinburger, I would have to say his firt time promoting a Pro Show he had an excellent turn out and I witnessed him making out the checks for the athletes backstage before trophy presentation which my hat goes off to him for that! I also got a glimpes of the RING Darrem won which was inscribed "NYP" on the face in Diamonds for New York Pro in place of the NOC ring Melvin won last year! Grin
I'd say yea the venue was smaller but the place was packed and the show went off without a hitch or time consuming antics Wayne Demilia used to have at his show!
Great job Steve & Bev and Congratulations to Darrem and welcome back to the Olympia Amhad, Richardson and Martinez!
Good luck Caprice in your first Olympia, work on controlling your stomach between shots and the detail of your abs. Dry out a bit more and hit the lower lats hard! Grin
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2005, 10:32:26 AM »

Does anyone have the final placings ,or at least top 10 ??
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2005, 11:21:15 AM »

men
1 Darrem Charles
2 Ahmad Haider
3 Victor Martinez
4 Craig Richardson
5 Capriese Murray
6 Chris Cook
7 Luke Wood
8 Bob Cicherillo
9 Francisco Bautista
10 Mustafa Mohammad
11 Onder Adsay
12 George Farah
13 Miguel O Jesus Filho
14 Kai Greene
15 Jason Arntz

lightweight women
1 Rosemary Jennings
2 Jeannie Paparone
3 Fannie Barrios
4 Gayle Moher
5 Guisy Caputo
6 Susan Facini

heavyweight women
1 Annie Rivieccio
2 Heather Foster
3 Maria Calo
4 Sarah Dunlap
5 Colette Nelson
6 Carmella Cureton
7 Mily Pena
8 Sarah Bridges
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2005, 11:29:13 AM »

3rd tier washups who should retire
1 Bob Cicherillo
2 Jason Arntz

people who receive gift placings
1 Victor Martinez
2 Chris Cook
3 Bob Cicherillo

biggest losers last night
1 ifbb
2 City of New York
3 Hamhock Community College, where the event was held
4 The 40 or 50 audience members who looked better than anyone onstage.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2005, 11:47:38 AM »

Agree with 240 ,but I think Victor was a fair  3rd place,

 Mustafa and Batista (as much as i don't like PAco)were better Than Chicherillo.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2005, 11:48:11 AM »

Woooooooshhhhhhh Cool
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2005, 12:08:21 PM »



people who receive gift placings
1 Victor Martinez
2 Chris Cook
3 Bob Cicherillo


You got one out of three ,  Martinez got a gift but c'mmon can't say the same thing about Cook or  Chick , Chris looked great for a first pro show IMO ,could've easily switched places with Capriese and Chick was placed exactly where he deserved, not as big as a couple of years back when he finished behind Markus but still sharp enough to top Mustafa and definitely a better structure and V-taper then Bautista.Undecided
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2005, 12:24:13 PM »

titus and kamali could have done some damage in this lineup
(they'd be pretty sure bets to crack the top 12)  Smiley
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