Author Topic: Steve Blechman is cheap !! (Read 14703 times)

LatsMcGee · « **Reply #25 on:** November 21, 2009, 12:09:59 PM »

I'm sure Steve offered your friend a salad tossing as fair compensation.

Matt C · « **Reply #26 on:** November 21, 2009, 12:57:08 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2009, 11:26:07 AM

Maybe GetItOnNY isn't a fan of the free market? More of a communist type?

Maybe GetItOnNY thinks that if I dig holes and refill them all day I should get paid a huge salary because of my "hard work" and "dedication"?

G o a t b o y · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:19:41 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 12:57:08 PM

Maybe GetItOnNY thinks that if I dig holes and refill them all day I should get paid a huge salary because of my "hard work" and "dedication"?

Im sure your socialist Canadian government would pay you to do that. And you'd be given up to 355 paid sick days a year, too.

Slapper · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:20:06 PM »

Is he Jewish?

Matt C · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:34:34 PM »

Quote from: G o a t b o y on November 21, 2009, 01:19:41 PM

Im sure your socialist Canadian government would pay you to do that. And you'd be given up to 355 paid sick days a year, too.

Everything that's right about Canada is capitalist, everything that is wrong about Canada is socialist, with very little exception.

I wish politicians around here would get the fucking clue, but no - they call for more and more socialism.

mwbbuilder · « **Reply #30 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:56:31 PM »

So how much is GetItOnNY paying Robert for the honer of whoring his name around?

Free supplements?

Please tell us how much you are paying your "athlete"?

Kettle, meet black.

gordiano · « **Reply #31 on:** November 21, 2009, 03:13:59 PM »

Who are these athletes you people keep referring to? Which sport are you talking about?

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #32 on:** November 21, 2009, 03:53:50 PM »

Robert, isn't free.He gets free supplements, and all his expenses paid.
Plus he is paid for every appearance he makes with us.He makes good money.Yes he could make better money, but between all his sponsors he does pretty well actually.
Robert has a big contract in Europe with a large distributor that pays him well as well.
Our company is growing by the day, and we are trying to negotiate a contract with Robert for exclusives, but he wants to wait until after the show which is smart.
He uses only our supplements but he has other sponsors, just like Cutler does.
I think Jay has at least 10 diffrent sponsors.
Robert is worth at least $100,000 a year, if not more.
My point is we pay Robert for everything he does, and so should Steve.
When Robert stood at our booth at the Mr Olympia, he was paid, when he stood at our booth for another expo and guest posed, he was paid.
Time = money ...Plain and simple

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #33 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:06:30 PM »

If he doesn't want to do it, and doesn't see the value in doing it, then don't fucking do it.

Or you could do it for free and then get your bitch to come on here and complain about it for 10 pages.

Smokincrazy · « **Reply #34 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:14:02 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 03:53:50 PM

Robert, isn't free.He gets free supplements, and all his expenses paid.
Plus he is paid for every appearance he makes with us.He makes good money.Yes he could make better money, but between all his sponsors he does pretty well actually.
Robert has a big contract in Europe with a large distributor that pays him well as well.
Our company is growing by the day, and we are trying to negotiate a contract with Robert for exclusives, but he wants to wait until after the show which is smart.
He uses only our supplements but he has other sponsors, just like Cutler does.
I think Jay has at least 10 diffrent sponsors.
Robert is worth at least $100,000 a year, if not more.
My point is we pay Robert for everything he does, and so should Steve.
When Robert stood at our booth at the Mr Olympia, he was paid, when he stood at our booth for another expo and guest posed, he was paid.
Time = money ...Plain and simple

That's exactly right

GetItOnNY · « **Reply #35 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:21:55 PM »

I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that

calfzilla · « **Reply #36 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:26:26 PM »

I think I told this story before but whatever. One day long time ago, I had a subscript to MD, I didn't get it one month so I emailed or called (can't remember) and the bitch was like well we sent it out, but we will send another one. But their tone was as if I was lying to get a free MD when I already had a subscription.

Way to treat a loyal customer.

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #37 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:30:43 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 04:21:55 PM

I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that

No-one's forcing them to do it. You act as if people should kiss a bodybuilders ass just because he's in the nationals. Start your own magazine if you don't like it.

Smokincrazy · « **Reply #38 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:32:29 PM »

He's just pointing out a problem with the industry. He's just looking out for the fellow bodybuilder so they get compensated

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #39 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:35:50 PM »

Quote from: Smokincrazy on November 21, 2009, 04:32:29 PM

He's just pointing out a problem with the industry. He's just looking out for the fellow bodybuilder so they get compensated

He's pointing out a problem with MD only.

Why doesn't RB go do a shoot with M&F or Flex then if they pay him? Why do it with someone who doesn't pay you then complain.

Blockhead · « **Reply #40 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:44:45 PM »

Quote from: wavelength on November 21, 2009, 11:10:44 AM

sometimes I think it's all a bad dream and this can't really be happening

I've finally woken up. I used to think the same things about the bodybuilding industry.

Truth of the matter is that it IS happening. Schmoes, Fetish and Deviants are making bank off of the backs of losers who do G4P, steal, mooch, scam, sell drugs and lie their way through a "bodybuilding career".

This is a sick sick industry. I am ashamed to ever think I was a part of it. It's so disgusting when you see it through the eyes of someone who's seen the ins and outs and the outs and the ins and the ins and the outs of it.

Over 500 competitors in Florida this weekend. Almost 200 men competing to get a Pro Card. Out of close to 200 men I am willing to bet only about 50 of them have a job or a real profession that provides health insurance and a pension-plan. The rest of them absolutely without a doubt hustles fag gots, sell drugs, their asses or mooches off of naive women to get by being satisfied with their gyms dues being paid and the ability to score another kit of growth.

Close to 200 Figure sluts. I know figure sluts and I am here to say that out of close to 200 that about the SAME number of girls have a real job or profession that provides health insurance and a 401k. The rest hustle schmoes, dorks with no dicks who will pay for their fantasy lifestyle or sell thier asses or mouth for money.

Don't get me stated on female bodybuilding...

- Block!

Topskin69 · « **Reply #41 on:** November 21, 2009, 04:59:20 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 04:21:55 PM

I just want Steve to pay Atletes for photo shoots.
Flex does, Muscle and Fitness do as well.
Robert is even being paid to compete.
If an athlete does something and you benefit from it, you should pay the athlete.
Steve can easily afford a $500 -$1000 to pay an athlete.
I think its arrogant, and cheap IMO.
We all know bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.
If your a national competitors and your good.Your going to spend at least $5000-$15000 on gear getting ready for Nationals.I heard alot of guys at the National level use 12-18ius of GH per day.
Thats about $500-$700 a week on GH alone.Then you got all the other s$#$
Its adds up quick.Trust me.I know
There is a lightheavy who is now a heavy who I know who spent $12000 getting ready for the USA's!!! Thats a down payment on a house.
I never spent more then $1500, maybe thats why I only made top 10.
Plus I have shittty symmetry so, I had not chance of winning, but I knew that

Excuse me... anyone paying 15grand for a show, is either got the crappiest genetics this side of Vince Goodrum, the worst gear hookup ever, or is taking WAY more then they need. Anyone taking 18 I.U.s of growth on a continuous basis is a clown.

Matt C · « **Reply #42 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:04:07 PM »

I like how people here think how much you get paid is based on how hard you work rather than based on the actual value of your production.

Pay me money to run around the block!!! After all, it's "hard work".

Topskin69 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:13:16 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 05:04:07 PM

I like how people here think how much you get paid is based on how hard you work rather than based on the actual value of your production.

Pay me money to run around the block!!! After all, it's "hard work".

In general principle you are correct, but what is this guys actual value. Obviously he has some value to Blechman, as he wouldn't do a spread in his magazine just out of some misguided sense of altruism. No I think its safe to say that Steve needs to keep fresh meat in his mag to keep the schomes, and fans happy.

So basically what we have here is just outright exploitation. A raw deal is the only deal available to most bodybuilders, so they take what they can get.

That being said...the best thing to do in this industry, (much like the music industry), is to get screwed for the first few years, while you market yourself, and get a fanbase, and once you actually have some weight, refuse to accept anything less, then reasonable compensation.

I remember an interview with Craig Titus some years back, where he encouraged all up and coming bodybuilders to take as many free photo opportunities as they could in the early years, and it would pay off in the long run. Its not the way it should be...but it is the best way to approach it, if you cant demand compensation right out the gate.

flexingtonsteele · « **Reply #44 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:50:48 PM »

Quote from: TheBlockHead on November 21, 2009, 04:44:45 PM

I've finally woken up. I used to think the same things about the bodybuilding industry.

Truth of the matter is that it IS happening. Schmoes, Fetish and Deviants are making bank off of the backs of losers who do G4P, steal, mooch, scam, sell drugs and lie their way through a "bodybuilding career".

This is a sick sick industry. I am ashamed to ever think I was a part of it. It's so disgusting when you see it through the eyes of someone who's seen the ins and outs and the outs and the ins and the ins and the outs of it.

Over 500 competitors in Florida this weekend. Almost 200 men competing to get a Pro Card. Out of close to 200 men I am willing to bet only about 50 of them have a job or a real profession that provides health insurance and a pension-plan. The rest of them absolutely without a doubt hustles fag gots, sell drugs, their asses or mooches off of naive women to get by being satisfied with their gyms dues being paid and the ability to score another kit of growth.

Close to 200 Figure sluts. I know figure sluts and I am here to say that out of close to 200 that about the SAME number of girls have a real job or profession that provides health insurance and a 401k. The rest hustle schmoes, dorks with no dicks who will pay for their fantasy lifestyle or sell thier asses or mouth for money.

Don't get me stated on female bodybuilding...

- Block!

^^^^ = 100% Truth!

Matt C · « **Reply #45 on:** November 21, 2009, 05:56:17 PM »

Quote from: flexingtonsteele on November 21, 2009, 05:50:48 PM

^^^^ = 100% Truth!

That's all industries I think. Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else. I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #46 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:02:21 PM »

Blechman 100% fag

Vince G, CSN MFT · « **Reply #47 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:05:38 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on November 21, 2009, 05:56:17 PM

That's all industries I think. Lots of businesspeople got their start in nasty things like drugs or whatever else. I admit, bodybuilding is perhaps a bit more deep into it, but still.

No it isn't you moron. BTW, business and people are two separate words

Relentless · « **Reply #48 on:** November 21, 2009, 06:55:02 PM »

Quote from: GetItOnNY on November 21, 2009, 09:13:04 AM

Listen I dont have Steve Blechman, but I didnt like what he did to Dave and John.Its was just wrong in every shape and form.
Shawn Ray, and Flex Wheeler is doing the same thing and they still have there jobs....Anyways Here is my point.
My athlete did a big spread in MD, and it was alot of pages.
Steve didnt pay the guy a dime!!!!
I was like WTF.
Steve has never had to struggle for money, not one second of his life.
He was given Twinlab.You got these poor athletes who dont make any money unless they get a contract.
Steve Charges something $10,000 per page per month to advertise in his magazine.Yet he puts these 5-10 page spreads on these athletes, and doesnt pay then a dime.Why not give the athlete atleast $500 or $1000 for his time.The athletes eats trains and works his ass off, and yu make money off of the athletes why not pay them?
Steve can I have free advertising in your magazine for free?
Hello no!!!! Bodybuilders, have alot of expenses, you got food, supplements,anabolics and everything else.
Bodybuilding is a very very expensive sport.Just eating costs $200 a week.
Steve Blechamn if you are going to charge supplement companies money to advertise in your magazine, then you should pay athletes for photo shoots.Steve $500 or even $1000 bucks is like $20 to you.
Your a friggin Multi-Millionaire, why not help a few guys out with some money.It is the right thing to do.You know it, I know, the athletes know it.

Every dollar in this world is guarded and if one cannot find a way to unlock the safe, then so be it. NO ONE DESERVES ANYTHING.

Mobil · « **Reply #49 on:** November 21, 2009, 08:53:15 PM »

bber mags dont pay any bbers any money... jeez.. had aguy at my gym do aspread in musclemag didnt get a dime. just got expenses paid that was it. why pay someone any money, when u know any bber would do it for free? just to get publicity