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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2009, 04:21:19 PM »
i'll tell you one thing i will be glad when the  rapture comes so all the idiots are gone :D

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2009, 04:23:14 PM »
i'll tell you one thing i will be glad when the  rapture comes so all the idiots are gone :D

You have been watching Al Gores nonsense movies too much.   The hysterical thing is that people like yourself are just as guilty as those you point the finger at and mock when it comes to believing the most ridiculous things. 

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2009, 04:34:19 PM »
thats the difference between you and me i believe science and you believe fairy tails

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2009, 08:56:15 PM »
maybe you should believe in a websters if what you think al gore believes in is science

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2009, 04:05:28 AM »
yes it was all an illusion - that tv show where they were growing vegetables in greenland - yes these emails prove it

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2009, 05:01:40 AM »
I guess you didnt read that they dumped all the data?
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Climate change data dumpedJonathan Leake, Environment Editor

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.


The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.

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The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRU’s director. In them he discusses thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.

In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.”

The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.

Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science,” he said.

Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. The lost material was used to build the databases that have been his life’s work, showing how the world has warmed by 0.8C over the past 157 years.

He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is “unequivocally” linked to greenhouse gas emissions generated by humans. Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says global warming is a threat to humanity.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2009, 05:52:46 PM »
I guess you didnt read that they dumped all the data?
________________________ _______________________

Climate change data dumpedJonathan Leake, Environment Editor

SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.

It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the past 150 years.


The UEA’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) was forced to reveal the loss following requests for the data under Freedom of Information legislation.

The data were gathered from weather stations around the world and then adjusted to take account of variables in the way they were collected. The revised figures were kept, but the originals — stored on paper and magnetic tape — were dumped to save space when the CRU moved to a new building.

Related Links
The great climate change science scandal

EU figurehead says climate change a myth

The admission follows the leaking of a thousand private emails sent and received by Professor Phil Jones, the CRU’s director. In them he discusses thwarting climate sceptics seeking access to such data.

In a statement on its website, the CRU said: “We do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenised) data.”

The CRU is the world’s leading centre for reconstructing past climate and temperatures. Climate change sceptics have long been keen to examine exactly how its data were compiled. That is now impossible.

Roger Pielke, professor of environmental studies at Colorado University, discovered data had been lost when he asked for original records. “The CRU is basically saying, ‘Trust us’. So much for settling questions and resolving debates with science,” he said.

Jones was not in charge of the CRU when the data were thrown away in the 1980s, a time when climate change was seen as a less pressing issue. The lost material was used to build the databases that have been his life’s work, showing how the world has warmed by 0.8C over the past 157 years.

He and his colleagues say this temperature rise is “unequivocally” linked to greenhouse gas emissions generated by humans. Their findings are one of the main pieces of evidence used by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which says global warming is a threat to humanity.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece

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Actually working at a place where we use quality controlled data that is not surprising. There is a shit load of data and it takes up a lot of storage space. There are issues such as faulty instruments - spikes caused by electrical faults - all these things have to be processed and removed from the data to give a true indication. So what was your point again?

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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2009, 08:41:44 PM »
Brilliant article-- hard to argue with anything the man says.
Nuclear power isn't safe.
We were only minutes away from a total meltdown the other year. And we got some of the best plants and security systems in the world.

This Hanson bloke must either ignore incidents like those or be completely in the dark about it. Because there has been some real close calls recently.
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Re: The War against Reason, Science, Math and Common Sense
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2009, 05:00:40 AM »
Nuclear power isn't safe.
We were only minutes away from a total meltdown the other year. And we got some of the best plants and security systems in the world.

This Hanson bloke must either ignore incidents like those or be completely in the dark about it. Because there has been some real close calls recently.

How does Europe manage it?