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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 10:53:24 AM »
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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2009, 10:52:49 AM »
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Last Updated: 6:39 AM, December 16, 2009

Posted: 5:11 AM, December 16, 2009

Of all the surprises of President Obama's first year, the biggest is his continuing tin ear for the mood of the country. He often appears clueless about what Americans want.

Almost from the moment he stepped into the Oval Office, the man who smashed the Clinton machine and won an electoral landslide over John McCain seemed to lose his touch with the people who put him there.

Some days, many days, he doesn't look like he cares that big chunks of the country, left, right and center, are giving up on him.

Voters by a large margin have said for months they don't want the health-care overhaul he's pushing, so he pushes harder. They want less spending and debt, so he doubles down on pork, bailouts, handouts and taxes.

They thought he would deliver bipartisanship, and he gives his hard-left allies the keys to the kingdom.

They worry about terrorism, so he wants to close Gitmo and move the worst of the worst to the homeland. With Ground Zero still a mess, he gives the 9/11 plotters civilian trials in New York.

His approval ratings are speeding downhill and some 60 percent say the country is on the wrong track. He responds by giving himself a "good solid B-plus" for his first year.

And he says Wall Street bankers "don't get it."

It comes as no surprise, of course, that our young president has a very, very high opinion of himself. But it is nonetheless shocking he remains so brazenly self-righteous in the face of growing public discontent.

A damn-the-torpedoes style of leadership would be welcome if he were an optimist brandishing an inclusive, sunny-side up vision. He's not. He's too often testy, churlish and downright whiny.

His vision is little more than a string of gauzy utopian platitudes glued together with fear, as when he told fellow Dems yesterday that the flawed health-bill represented "the last chance" for reform.

The last chance? Forever?

His charge that bankers have an obligation "to help rebuild the economy" by making more and presumably riskier loans boggles the mind. Low standards are the hair of the dog that led to liar loans and other housing disasters. By all means, let's do it again.

When something goes wrong, it's not his fault. "Fat-cat bankers," "greedy" insurance companies, doctors who do amputations just for the money, special interests, the media -- the media! -- have all taken their turns being blamed for what he hasn't fixed.

The buck doesn't stop on his desk!

If all other scapegoats fail, there's always George W. Bush. Pressed during last Sunday's "60 Minutes" interview on his decision to send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan, Obama shared his pain and slandered Bush -- all to distinguish his troop surge from his predecessor's.

"One of the mistakes that was made over the last eight years is for us to have a triumphant sense about war," Obama said. "There was a tendency to say, 'We can go in. We can kick some tail. This is some glorious exercise.' When, in fact, this is a tough business."

So even when he reaches the same conclusion as Bush, pursues the same enemy, relies on the same commanders and the same Defense secretary, it's different.

Why? Because he says so.

Council 'wages' foolish war

Don't tell the City Council and their union puppet-masters that a job is the best social program. They prefer welfare, thank you very much.

That's the only conclusion to be drawn from the job-killing decision by the council to reject a development plan for a vacant Bronx armory. After failing to negotiate a mandate that all retail jobs on the Kingsbridge site pay at least $10 an hour plus benefits, pols pulled the plug on the $300 million project (illustration above), most of it to be privately financed.

Gone are 1,000 construction jobs and 1,200 permanent ones. In a borough where the official unemployment rate is 13.4 percent, that's a scandal.

It's also a stuck-in-poverty mindset. As Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. proudly crowed: "The notion that any job is better than no job no longer applies."

Maybe not in The Bronx, but in the real world, any job is definitely better than no job. Especially when the only legal alternative is welfare.

Or maybe the pols think they've also outlawed the recession.

Nobody gets rich on the minimum wage of $7.25, but most of the jobs would have paid more, some far more. But it's a losing bet to believe retailers would agree to a mandate that they must pay more than nearby competitors.

Indeed, studies show that requiring any wage leads to fewer jobs being created.

Yet common sense was the first casualty. The talks got so loopy that one idea was to have the city subsidize wages to bring them up to the $10 level.

That the idea was seriously discussed reflects how deeply the entitlement culture is embedded in New York. Nothing moves without a government handout.

The developer, Related Companies, an international real-estate company, was in line to get $17.8 million worth of exemptions on real-estate and sales taxes, along with $30 million in state and federal historic tax credits.

That's a pittance compared to what it would have invested to build out retail spaces within the sprawling armory and sign up store tenants. Still, that the real-estate giant was getting any incentives added fuel to the populist argument that everybody ought to get something.

So now nobody gets anything.

Well, not quite. The city, which spent $30 million on the armory's roof and other improvements and planned to sell it to Related, gets to keep an empty building and annual maintenance costs of $1 million.

Some people dare call that a victory.

Vicious cyclists

Best verbal slam of the day: "A Bicycle Luddite." That's what a reader of cityhallnews.com called city Trans portation Commissioner Jan ette Sadik-Khan, a k a Commissioner of Gridlock. Anybody who ever got stuck in her Times Square traffic hell certainly agrees.

WIT ALL DUE RESPECT

As one of Sidney Zion's legion of former editors, I knew he had a way with words. "Yakahoola" was Bill Clinton's dirty deed with Monica and "two parties against the people" described Congress.

At his recent memorial service, I heard some new ones. A friend recalled that Sid, called to speak at the end of a long night of speeches, began by saying, "I feel like Zsa Zsa Gabor's ninth husband. I know what I'm supposed to do. I just don't know if I can keep it interesting."

He once vouched for a fellow by saying, "He's a good friend behind your back." And so was Sid. May he rest in peace.


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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2009, 11:06:03 AM »
THA FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..Do liberals want jobs? Like liberal is another race or some shit. Yeah fool Americans want jobs, liberal conservative...everyone fool...fuckin american...you killin me with this shit straight up b. shit is gettin sickening son.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2009, 11:09:33 AM »
THA FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..Do liberals want jobs? Like liberal is another race or some shit. Yeah fool Americans want jobs, liberal conservative...everyone fool...fuckin american...you killin me with this shit straight up b. shit is gettin sickening son.

Bro - I live literally three minutes from this place. 

This is a massive site and the whole thing was shut down because of union demands. 

We have tons of kids who would happily work over there. 

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2009, 12:11:16 PM »
liberals dont want anyone to make enough to actualy live without the help of the government, if the poor see the libs keep giving just enough to scrape buy they can manipulate the lower class, and then come election time just promise more handouts and who do you think the poor will vote for? fegaurdless of how bad who they are voting for will screw things up

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2009, 12:13:32 PM »
Council 'wages' foolish war

Don't tell the City Council and their union puppet-masters that a job is the best social program. They prefer welfare, thank you very much.

That's the only conclusion to be drawn from the job-killing decision by the council to reject a development plan for a vacant Bronx armory. After failing to negotiate a mandate that all retail jobs on the Kingsbridge site pay at least $10 an hour plus benefits, pols pulled the plug on the $300 million project (illustration above), most of it to be privately financed.

Gone are 1,000 construction jobs and 1,200 permanent ones. In a borough where the official unemployment rate is 13.4 percent, that's a scandal.

It's also a stuck-in-poverty mindset. As Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. proudly crowed: "The notion that any job is better than no job no longer applies."

Maybe not in The Bronx, but in the real world, any job is definitely better than no job. Especially when the only legal alternative is welfare.

Or maybe the pols think they've also outlawed the recession.

Nobody gets rich on the minimum wage of $7.25, but most of the jobs would have paid more, some far more. But it's a losing bet to believe retailers would agree to a mandate that they must pay more than nearby competitors.

Indeed, studies show that requiring any wage leads to fewer jobs being created.

Yet common sense was the first casualty. The talks got so loopy that one idea was to have the city subsidize wages to bring them up to the $10 level.

That the idea was seriously discussed reflects how deeply the entitlement culture is embedded in New York. Nothing moves without a government handout.

The developer, Related Companies, an international real-estate company, was in line to get $17.8 million worth of exemptions on real-estate and sales taxes, along with $30 million in state and federal historic tax credits.

That's a pittance compared to what it would have invested to build out retail spaces within the sprawling armory and sign up store tenants. Still, that the real-estate giant was getting any incentives added fuel to the populist argument that everybody ought to get something.

So now nobody gets anything.

Well, not quite. The city, which spent $30 million on the armory's roof and other improvements and planned to sell it to Related, gets to keep an empty building and annual maintenance costs of $1 million.

Some people dare call that a victory.


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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2011, 10:28:26 AM »
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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2011, 01:49:08 PM »
Usually when people bump 18 month old threads it is because there have been new developments or they have something of substance to add to it.

Not because their panties got twisted and they are crying again.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2011, 01:52:06 PM »
Usually when people bump 18 month old threads it is because there have been new developments or they have something of substance to add to it.

Not because their panties got twisted and they are crying again.

You have no idea why I bumped it.  It wasnt for you assface.    I bumped it for someone else.  Douche.  Go back to working on your tan lines on the gay beach sipping fruity little drinks.           

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2011, 02:09:04 PM »
You have no idea why I bumped it.  It wasnt for you assface.    I bumped it for someone else.  Douche.  Go back to working on your tan lines on the gay beach sipping fruity little drinks.           

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2011, 02:30:07 PM »
Con 151 Bacardi that is

Mal - if you were on the NYC Council - how would you vote on this?   

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2011, 02:34:41 PM »
I would vote for the project to go through

Because unlike Mr. Asshole there... yes... low paying jobs are better than no jobs

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2011, 02:37:42 PM »
I would vote for the project to go through

Because unlike Mr. Asshole there... yes... low paying jobs are better than no jobs



What those jackasses dont get - is that other jobs are created as well - delivering the goods to the place, security, nearby businesses, etc.   

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2011, 02:54:33 PM »


What those jackasses dont get - is that other jobs are created as well - delivering the goods to the place, security, nearby businesses, etc.   

I think you have me confused. I dont like Dems and i dont like Repubs..
Yes this would be great for the local economy... yes i concede that. The dems on the city council are bullshittin

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2011, 03:06:10 PM »
Locals Demand Living Wage for Jobs at Kingsbridge Armory
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NEW YORK, NY December 09, 2009 —A City Council committee is set to vote this morning on the controversial plan to turn a former National Guard Armory in the Bronx into a shopping mall. WNYC's Matthew Schuerman has more.

REPORTER: City Council members say it's the closest fight over any real estate in years. A coalition of community organizations and labor unions has been pushing the developer of the Kingsbridge Armory to guarantee that all the jobs at the new shopping mall will pay a living wage. They define a living wage as $11.50 an hour, or $10 an hour if benefits are provided.

Elected officials from the Bronx have largely taken their side. The Bloomberg administration is supporting the developer, the Related Companies, which says that mandating a living wage will scare away retail tenants. A subcommitee and committee must approve a zoning change first, but if successful, the full City Council could vote on the project Wednesday afternoon.

For WNYC, I'm Matthew Schuerman.

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I live about three minutes from this landmark and people really need jobs.  the kids are all over the streets hanging out and would love to work in there. 

WTF is wrong with these libs? 

I don't understand this.  Aren't some jobs better than no jobs?  Are there not teenagers, single people, students that could really use a salary under "living wage"?  I worked for 7.50 as a teenager for three years.  Saved almost all of it, and put that towards something that would actually earn me a "living wage".

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2011, 03:16:12 PM »
I don't understand this.  Aren't some jobs better than no jobs?  Are there not teenagers, single people, students that could really use a salary under "living wage"?  I worked for 7.50 as a teenager for three years.  Saved almost all of it, and put that towards something that would actually earn me a "living wage".
yes.. while in college i made $6/hr at gnc.. true story

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2011, 03:18:42 PM »
yes.. while in college i made $6/hr at gnc.. true story

Same here, good man!  ;D

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2011, 06:01:49 PM »
You have no idea why I bumped it. 

No I don't.  Neither does anyone else.  Why?  Because :

Usually when people bump 18 month old threads it is because there have been new developments or they have something of substance to add to it.

Not because their panties got twisted and they are crying again.

Typing in "BUMP" ain't doing shit but revealing yourself as a no life having home leaving internet fake. 

Fucking crybaby. 

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2011, 06:12:13 PM »
No I don't.  Neither does anyone else.  Why?  Because :

Typing in "BUMP" ain't doing shit but revealing yourself as a no life having home leaving internet fake. 

Fucking crybaby. 

MELTDOWN.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2011, 06:15:58 PM »
A simple reply pointing out an idiots behavior constitutes a meltdown for you?  Well considering your lack of IQ I would suppose so.  I guess you put in many hours each day practicing stupidity while working the drive thru.

Carry on Nancy boy.  May you one day actually make a valid point.  Though no one is holding their breath waiting for that day to arrive.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2011, 06:16:22 PM »
I bumped it for mal you idiot in relation to another thread.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2011, 06:16:55 PM »
The posts you direct at 333 are dripping with psychotic far-leftist rage. I can practically see you foaming at the mouth as you smash your keyboard through your desk when you're typing up your responses to him.

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Re: Do Liberals even want jobs or do they just want to complain?
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2011, 06:20:29 PM »
You would be wrong then.  Which isn't unusual for you.  Considering your normal responses are made of either calling someone a fagg0t, claiming they are in a meltdown, or some muslim based tirade... it's easy to see you are just an idiot whose brain cells have not multiplied into the range of double digits.  The only thing about you in double digits besides your age is definitely the Y-chromosome.

Good luck with life.  You are going to need it.