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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2009, 09:44:27 PM »
Do they let the Commander-in-Chief in on the secret that he answers to the Queen?  ???

The Commander-in-Chief, if not specifically told, usually gets the picture REAL QUICK.

Years ago, a correspondent asked President Clinton why certain action had not been taken? his response: "Because Sheila, there is a government within the government, ...and I don't control it." How else do you suppose there has been the ability to conduct operations that Congress is unaware of? How else do you suppose things took place that allowed Reagan to have plausible deniability?  Why else is "FREEDOM" such a powerful word within the American vocabulary and culture? Other countries are free, ...but they don't run around touting it 24/7. Why does America feel the need to speak of her "freedom" 24/7. Because it needs to reinforce the concept in the minds of her citizens.

When one is in a state of bondage or slavery, ...one can and most often will rebel, against such a state. However, if one if not aware of their bondage, ...they have nothing to rebel against. That's why a covert state of captivity has always been the ideal state sought by the slave holders throughout society. If you can shackle their minds, ...there is no need to shackle their bodies. They've simply opened up the criteria for who can become slaves. It's a new face put on the old feudal system, where peasants lived on the land, and paid a portion of their productivity to the ruler and if they didn't they were imprisoned. It's no different today. You work the real estate (which was derived from the French for Royal Estate) whether rural or urban, producing productivity from which a portion is paid in tribute to the ruler (taxes). Don't pay your taxes... How are you free? the answer is... you are NOT. You are counted, tagged, bagged, & catalogued from cradle to grave. Each child born is catalogued and entered onto the balance sheet with his/her birth, and a certain number of units of productivity can and is expected to be produced by that individual throughout their lifetime.

Think about the system for a moment, and the way we have been taught to live our lives. People fight traffic, to get to a JOB (just over broke), work all day to make enough money to buy bread, so they can nourish their bodies enough to work all day,  only to turn around and do it all again. ... working 40hrs a week, for 40 yrs... to possibly retire on 40% of what we couldn't really live on in the first place... provided they don't find a way to crash the system, just when people need that retirement & pension income the most. Is that living life? ...or is that a state of bondage to a company? Since 1933 or thereabouts, all Americans have been born into slavery... they just don't realize it... YET!
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2009, 10:10:57 PM »
Yeah, he was talking about UFO's.  Not the Queen of england running our country.   ::)  The response came when asked:

Bill Clinton – as quoted by senior White House reporter Sarah McClendon in reply to why he wasn’t doing anything about UFO disclosure.
"Sarah, there’s a government inside the government, and I don’t control it."

So says:

http://www.hillaryclintonufo.net/billclintonquotes.html

and (also talking about UFO's}

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/05/19/02360.html

And there's a youtube BLAH BLAH BLAH  ::)  But I'm not going to post it because you'll just worship it as gospel like conservatives lap up Palin's dirty rag of a book.


So, what are you fruitcake CT nut jobs going to say next?  The Queen is controlled by Aliens?   ;D

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2009, 11:24:39 PM »
The government inside the government that the president DOES NOT CONTROL is called THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT...strange name indeed, yet it is the REAL GOVERNMENT as opposed to the puppets like Obama, Clinton, Bush etc. These people are part of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Rothschilds etc who really run america. Hillary Clinton recently slipped up during a speech and said "we" (government) listen to the CFR and they tell us what to do. Bill Clinton said during his presidency that a person works so hard to become president only to find out after they become president that they control nothing and they are told what to do. He followed that up with ' soon there will be virtual presidents'. Essentially he is informed everyone that the president is just a figure head with NO POWER.
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2009, 11:30:55 PM »
here's a detailed argument for why this is:  I ran into this a few years back in a documentary and read the treaty and all but really didn't know what to think of it for sure.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/united_states_british_colony.htm

That was one long assed read, ...finally got through all 3 pages, ...but very well worth it. Great pull Hugo!
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2009, 11:37:19 PM »
The government inside the government that the president DOES NOT CONTROL is called THE CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT...strange name indeed, yet it is the REAL GOVERNMENT as opposed to the puppets like Obama, Clinton, Bush etc. These people are part of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg, Rothschilds etc who really run america. Hillary Clinton recently slipped up during a speech and said "we" (government) listen to the CFR and they tell us what to do. Bill Clinton said during his presidency that a person works so hard to become president only to find out after they become president that they control nothing and they are told what to do. He followed that up with ' soon there will be virtual presidents'. Essentially he is informed everyone that the president is just a figure head with NO POWER.

Oh yeah....

"They" and "them"

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I'd ask you to post some credible sources, but i forgot, you are a coward. 

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #55 on: December 14, 2009, 11:45:42 PM »
here's a detailed argument for why this is:  I ran into this a few years back in a documentary and read the treaty and all but really didn't know what to think of it for sure.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/united_states_british_colony.htm

Questions:

When do you think the english wanted us in WW2?  

When London was getting bombed?  When they were losing in North Africa?  THe BEF got surrounded and nearly terminated?  

How do you think they wanted our financial and material help?  By lend lease?

How did we actually get into WW2?




3 pages is a long read.  I'm sure there's something to it.  But actions seem larger than words here.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #56 on: December 14, 2009, 11:51:29 PM »
Yeah, he was talking about UFO's.  Not the Queen of england running our country.   ::)  The response came when asked:

Bill Clinton – as quoted by senior White House reporter Sarah McClendon in reply to why he wasn’t doing anything about UFO disclosure.
"Sarah, there’s a government inside the government, and I don’t control it."

So says:

http://www.hillaryclintonufo.net/billclintonquotes.html

and (also talking about UFO's}

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2008/05/19/02360.html

And there's a youtube BLAH BLAH BLAH  ::)  But I'm not going to post it because you'll just worship it as gospel like conservatives lap up Palin's dirty rag of a book.

Thanks for correcting me.
I was speaking with my friend Sheila from Las Vegas a few minutes before posting that, and I mixed up the name.
I typed S ...and inserted Sheila 'cause that's where my mind was. lol

The fact that Clinton was speaking specifically of UFO's at the time is completely irrelevant for our purposes tho.
It could have been on any subject at all. The primary and significant part of all this is that the President is not the #1 head honcho as propagandized. Presidents must answer to others... and I'm not referring to the people or citizens who vote for him. That's just the beauty pageant or popularity pageant to determine who has greater ability to institute the agenda while retaining the passivity, complacency and loyalty of the populace. The President must answer to his superiors which include Kings & Queens, their heirs & successors, potentates from around the world.... and the mysterious, cryptic, and ever ubiquitous "invisible hand of the market" so often referred to.

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So, what are you fruitcake CT nut jobs going to say next?  The Queen is controlled by Aliens?   ;D


No, ...we're gonna say the Queen IS an alien!  :D

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #57 on: December 14, 2009, 11:54:09 PM »
Oh yeah....

"They" and "them"

 ::)

I'd ask you to post some credible sources, but i forgot, you are a coward. 


You wouldn't know credible if it kicked your false teeth out..so why bother. Go to bed...isn't it past your bedtime?
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #58 on: December 14, 2009, 11:54:40 PM »
Just thought I post a a glimpse of group's intention.


We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.



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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #59 on: December 14, 2009, 11:54:50 PM »
Question:

When do you think the english wanted us in WW2? 

When London was getting bombed?  When they were losing in North Africa?  THe BEF got surrounded and nearly terminated? 

How do you think they wanted our financial and material help?  By lend lease?
don't attack me on this, I clearly said I don't know what to think of it.  I have a decent grasp over American History and the Constitution and all that but it seems this might require someone with a law degree to explain. This is something I would take to someone above me to explain. Maybe someone on the net has tackled it, I'll look for an explaination later and if I find something I'll post it.  Honestly, when I saw this in a documentary and looked it up a few years back, I just shrugged my shoulders. 

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #60 on: December 14, 2009, 11:55:19 PM »
You wouldn't know credible if it kicked your false teeth out..so why bother. Go to bed...isn't it past your bedtime?

Yes, in your world, I wouldn't know moonbot/coward.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #61 on: December 14, 2009, 11:56:43 PM »
don't attack me on this, I clearly said I don't know what to think of it.  I have a decent grasp over American History and the Constitution and all that but it seems this might require someone with a law degree to explain. This is something I would take to someone above me to explain. Maybe someone on the net has tackled it, I'll look for an explaination later and if I find something I'll post it.  Honestly, when I saw this in a documentary and looked it up a few years back, I just shrugged my shoulders. 

I apologize, wasn't meaning to attack you.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #62 on: December 14, 2009, 11:59:14 PM »
Questions:

When do you think the english wanted us in WW2?  

When London was getting bombed?  When they were losing in North Africa?  THe BEF got surrounded and nearly terminated?  

How do you think they wanted our financial and material help?  By lend lease?

How did we actually get into WW2?




3 pages is a long read.  I'm sure there's something to it.  But actions seem larger than words here.

I guess you were asleep in class when the discussion was america and Britain started WWII, aslo funded Hitler...even installed him as leader. I would tell you to look it up, but your better at screaming "I don't believe it" rather than researching
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #63 on: December 15, 2009, 12:00:58 AM »
I apologize, wasn't meaning to attack you.
attack was the wrong word, I should have said challenge.  I honestly don't know enough to make a statement.  I think the topic is interesting.  I'll see if I can dig up something explaining why it's wrong.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #64 on: December 15, 2009, 12:01:25 AM »
Yes, in your world, I wouldn't know moonbot/coward.

Uh-oh... the mod is getting all ad hom... silly childish name calling ...an obvious tell of someone losing badly.  :-\

C'mon OzmO... we know you're a spy. That's why all your avatars are always a great big eyeball.  :D
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #65 on: December 15, 2009, 12:03:07 AM »

The fact that Clinton was speaking specifically of UFO's at the time is completely irrelevant for our purposes tho.

It has every relevance because taken out of context and free from a deeper explanation from Clinton one could gleam many implied meanings to what ever theory they want and use it support complete garbage.

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It could have been on any subject at all. The primary and significant part of all this is that the President is not the #1 head honcho as propagandized.

In many ways the president isn't.  Read up on how the American system of government works with its 3 separate branches, 2 elected and 1 appointed.


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Presidents must answer to others... and I'm not referring to the people or citizens who vote for him. That's just the beauty pageant or popularity pageant to determine who has greater ability to institute the agenda while retaining the passivity, complacency and loyalty of the populace. The President must answer to his superiors which include Kings & Queens, their heirs & successors, potentates from around the world.... and the mysterious, cryptic, and ever ubiquitous "invisible hand of the market" so often referred to.

No, that's just a:  Whacked conclusion based on so many CT's and from a comment taken out of context and void of further explanation.  






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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #66 on: December 15, 2009, 12:03:50 AM »
I guess you were asleep in class when the discussion was america and Britain started WWII, aslo funded Hitler...even installed him as leader. I would tell you to look it up, but your better at screaming "I don't believe it" rather than researching

Beep beep moonbot   8)

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #67 on: December 15, 2009, 12:05:20 AM »
Uh-oh... the mod is getting all ad hom... silly childish name calling ...an obvious tell of someone losing badly.  :-\

C'mon OzmO... we know you're a spy. That's why all your avatars are always a great big eyeball.  :D

He's so pathetic Jag I can't even laugh at him. Reminds me of an abandoned puppy who just wet the carpet after you felt sorry for him and let him in your home and fed him. Ya wanna be mad at him, but you feel too much for his sorry state to be angry....
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #68 on: December 15, 2009, 12:05:55 AM »
attack was the wrong word, I should have said challenge.  I honestly don't know enough to make a statement.  I think the topic is interesting.  I'll see if I can dig up something explaining why it's wrong.

When we declared our independence I'm sure there were still many ties to England both financially and socially that lasted many years.  The the DOI says it all IMO.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #69 on: December 15, 2009, 12:10:11 AM »
When we declared our independence I'm sure there were still many ties to England both financially and socially that lasted many years.  The the DOI says it all IMO.

Um again you must have been asleep in class...America NEVER won a war of independence and when it tried to get to big for its britches the English army came back to america burned Washington to the ground, burned the Constitution of america and made sure that it would never rise up to anymore than the colony of England that it still is today. I posted information on that multiple time on this board...but then again you were to busy saying "I DON'T BELIEVE THAT"...
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #70 on: December 15, 2009, 12:12:47 AM »
I guess you were asleep in class when the discussion was america and Britain started WWII, aslo funded Hitler...even installed him as leader. I would tell you to look it up, but your better at screaming "I don't believe it" rather than researching

When you consider the fact that immediately after WWII, all the former nazis went into the SS (stunningly ironic similarity) and the CIA, ...German pharmocopiae was widely disseminated into America... the same pharmocopiae that was banned and being banned in Germany... an argument can be made for who really won that war as well. It's no secret that certain members of the British royal family (who are actually German and not English) supported the Nazis. It's kind of remarkable how quickly one can change their name from Battenberg to mountbatten, and people forget that. Or how quickly one can change their last name to the name of one of their castles (Windsor) and people forget. It's as was previously stated... the USA and her citizen's are nothing more than dispensable thugs and cannon fodder for the British elite. They know it... why do you think in many aristocratic circles, they still refer to you guys as "the colonies". It's not that they didn't receive the memo about 1776... it's that Americans didn't receive the memo about 1783.  ;D
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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #71 on: December 15, 2009, 12:16:49 AM »
Uh-oh... the mod is getting all ad hom... silly childish name calling ...an obvious tell of someone losing badly.  :-\



yeah.   ::)

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C'mon OzmO... we know you're a spy. That's why all your avatars are always a great big eyeball.  :D

Actually, he's with in the "31.36 kilometer grid net" now so it doesn't matter.  He can't escape.  I am a internet spy.  I work for "them".  No need to hide my real purpose for being here.  He can't escape because he uses the web.  Anyone who changes there normal routine or moves locations will be tagged and identified.  Eventually he will be picked up and used as low grade protein food for a strain of pet insect larva that my reptilian bother is growing.  Don't think you are not being watched too Jag.  Just think about it, the last few months...... and you 'll see I'm being serious.  I'll will continue to be "OzmO" the middle mod for purposes of not freaking anyone out and to keep up appearances.  You 2 can sleep good tonite knowing that you both are in the "know" and did crack it.  Just know, that as far as anyone else will know, nothing will have happened to you.  Nothing will seem to change as far as anyone will see.

Just trust that everything has a greater purpose.  Everything, must eat.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #72 on: December 15, 2009, 12:18:34 AM »
Um again you must have been asleep in class...America NEVER won a war of independence and when it tried to get to big for its britches the English army came back to america burned Washington to the ground, burned the Constitution of america and made sure that it would never rise up to anymore than the colony of England that it still is today. I posted information on that multiple time on this board...but then again you were to busy saying "I DON'T BELIEVE THAT"...



Beep beep.  So says the man who believes the moon landing was a hoax and also believes all sorts of stupid crap.

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #73 on: December 15, 2009, 12:20:58 AM »
When you consider the fact that immediately after WWII, all the former nazis went into the SS (stunningly ironic similarity) and the CIA, ...German pharmocopiae was widely disseminated into America... the same pharmocopiae that was banned and being banned in Germany... an argument can be made for who really won that war as well. It's no secret that certain members of the British royal family (who are actually German and not English) supported the Nazis. It's kind of remarkable how quickly one can change their name from Battenberg to mountbatten, and people forget that. Or how quickly one can change their last name to the name of one of their castles (Windsor) and people forget. It's as was previously stated... the USA and her citizen's are nothing more than dispensable thugs and cannon fodder for the British elite. They know it... why do you think in many aristocratic circles, they still refer to you guys as "the colonies". It's not that they didn't receive the memo about 1776... it's that Americans didn't receive the memo about 1783.  ;D

More stupid shit from the attic.   ::)

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Re: The United States Is Not A Country
« Reply #74 on: December 15, 2009, 12:23:14 AM »
yeah.   ::)

Actually, he's with in the "31.36 kilometer grid net" now so it doesn't matter.  He can't escape.  I am a internet spy.  I work for "them".  No need to hide my real purpose for being here.  He can't escape because he uses the web.  Anyone who changes there normal routine or moves locations will be tagged and identified.  Eventually he will be picked up and used as low grade protein food for a strain of pet insect larva that my reptilian bother is growing.  Don't think you are not being watched too Jag.  Just think about it, the last few months...... and you 'll see I'm being serious.

Well in the last few months I've lost alot of weight... about 180lbs of baggage that was weighing me down mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. Since then, ...I've been soaring like an eagle!  :D


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I'll will continue to be "OzmO" the middle mod for purposes of not freaking anyone out and to keep up appearances.  You 2 can sleep good tonite knowing that you both are in the "know" and did crack it.  Just know, that as far as anyone else will know, nothing will have happened to you.  Nothing will seem to change as far as anyone will see.

Just trust that everything has a greater purpose.  Everything, must eat.


Eeeeek!

A food source you say? ...hmmm ...well in that case... can I be a sort of lollipop?  :D
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