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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #75 on: December 15, 2009, 04:03:05 AM »
Nobody who saw his open workout (boxing training) on youtube would claim that he had any prior boxing experience.  That is a bullshit claim that is totally refuted by watching that video.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2009, 04:38:48 AM »
Yes, he sure didn't use any hip in his punches from the training clip.

Just straight and very stiff punches from the shoulders.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #77 on: December 15, 2009, 05:23:44 AM »
He's just holding back for the camera...

...btw, why is his head purple...
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #78 on: December 15, 2009, 06:38:40 AM »
two man with limited skills..... the (much) stronger man won in 44 secs....

nevertheless, i give him credit


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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #79 on: December 15, 2009, 06:41:25 AM »
what do you know about fighting? have you ever been in a fight? what do you know about how functional strength effects athletic capability and thus fighting capability?

answer to all three are no.

marius is the worlds strongest man several times over. and that strength transfers over to fighting, since it is real world strength, functional strength. the guy walks around carrying weights triple his opponents, he pulls shit that weighs 5 -7 times their weigh, he tosses around and fucks around with all sorts of different objects that weigh much more than any person he'll have to fight.  if it comes down to it, mariuz could just get a hold of the guy and toss him. not much to do against that type of power.

this is true.

him vs lessnar would be a fight i would pay to watch  8)
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2009, 06:49:23 AM »
sometimes I forget this is getbig and actually try to have a serious discussion lol.

some people are just so dumb its ludacris, alot less then on other forums though.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2009, 06:50:07 AM »
cant wait until he fights someone decent and gets his ass handed to him, so I can prove everyone wrong .....Again.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2009, 06:55:58 AM »
sometimes I forget this is getbig and actually try to have a serious discussion lol.

some people are just so dumb its ludacris, alot less then on other forums though.

candy makes a good point swede. we're not talking about a big bodybuilder here who would run out of steam within the first 30 secs. we are talking about a guy that throws around insane weights and keeps going. farmers walk, deadlifting vans etc is not for girls !
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2009, 06:57:12 AM »
cant wait until he fights someone decent and gets his ass handed to him, so I can prove everyone wrong .....Again.

Even Bruce Lee would be intimidated because of his size... and his blood pressure...
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2009, 07:08:48 AM »
candy makes a good point swede. we're not talking about a big bodybuilder here who would run out of steam within the first 30 secs. we are talking about a guy that throws around insane weights and keeps going. farmers walk, deadlifting vans etc is not for girls !

Look at his sparring video though, he gasses within 2 min... and thats pure boxing no wrestling..

sure the dude is massive and strong, and due to that, he will run over alot of people, but if they can survive the first min , I think marious is Done, IF he doesn't change his strategy..

put him against shane carwin or someone like that that is about the same size and can box and you will see what I mean.

He might become good though, but to say NOW that he CAN become the best in the world, words cannot describe how retarded that is..

he doesn't seem to know how to box, no teqnucue in kicks, hands down by the waist when he kicks (a high kick would KO him) he has No wrestling skills at all, (brock doesn't have sub skills but he can keep and take ANYONE down because of his wrestling background) marious has none of that, sure he could lay on someone, but a wrestler would just stand right back up.

so if a big dude like mir takes him down, hes getting submitted within the first min...

Sure he can power out of submission the first 30 sec maby, but judging by his sparring video, then he will gass, and be unable to just power out and then get submitted.

I have a feeling they will put him against a few cans though to build the hype.

hopefully next time he shows a bit better teqnicue and I give him his props.

No doubt he hit him hard on the ground, but he needs to get better and focus on getting better if he wants to become good.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2009, 07:35:25 AM »
Look at his sparring video though, he gasses within 2 min... and thats pure boxing no wrestling..

sure the dude is massive and strong, and due to that, he will run over alot of people, but if they can survive the first min , I think marious is Done, IF he doesn't change his strategy..

put him against shane carwin or someone like that that is about the same size and can box and you will see what I mean.

He might become good though, but to say NOW that he CAN become the best in the world, words cannot describe how retarded that is..

he doesn't seem to know how to box, no teqnucue in kicks, hands down by the waist when he kicks (a high kick would KO him) he has No wrestling skills at all, (brock doesn't have sub skills but he can keep and take ANYONE down because of his wrestling background) marious has none of that, sure he could lay on someone, but a wrestler would just stand right back up.

so if a big dude like mir takes him down, hes getting submitted within the first min...

Sure he can power out of submission the first 30 sec maby, but judging by his sparring video, then he will gass, and be unable to just power out and then get submitted.

I have a feeling they will put him against a few cans though to build the hype.

hopefully next time he shows a bit better teqnicue and I give him his props.

No doubt he hit him hard on the ground, but he needs to get better and focus on getting better if he wants to become good.
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people said the same about lesnar - that mir would dominate him etc

with so much strength i don't think he needs great technique, just enough.

its like saying any big guy could beat a gorilla in a fight because the gorilla has no technique.

when the gorilla rips your arms off - what good is technique.  ;D
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2009, 07:39:14 AM »
people said the same about lesnar - that mir would dominate him etc

with so much strength i don't think he needs great technique, just enough.

its like saying any big guy could beat a gorilla in a fight because the gorilla has no technique.

when the gorilla rips your arms off - what good is technique.  ;D

people said the same think about lesnar because they were RETARDED and didn't think about his AMAZING wrestling skill, And with that comes GOOD cardio, Lesnar could go for 5 rounds.

Marious cant wrestle and cant go for one round at a good pace, starting to understand my point?

And wrestler are notorious hard hitters due their low center of "gravity".

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2009, 07:41:48 AM »
Lesnar always have amazing wrestling skills Combined with insane strenght to fall back on...

marious Only has strenght to fall back on, and against Good fighters that isn't enough.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2009, 07:48:58 AM »
people said the same think about lesnar because they were RETARDED and didn't think about his AMAZING wrestling skill, And with that comes GOOD cardio, Lesnar could go for 5 rounds.

Marious cant wrestle and cant go for one round at a good pace, starting to understand my point?

And wrestler are notorious hard hitters due their low center of "gravity".

i do however, again we are not talking about bodybuilders.

marius has strong bones, strong tendons, strong dense muscles, strong heart. he has great cardio - think not ? try walking 100yards while lifting 100lbs, let alone the 550lbs he walks with.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2009, 07:53:20 AM »
i do however, again we are not talking about bodybuilders.

marius has strong bones, strong tendons, strong dense muscles, strong heart. he has great cardio - think not ? try walking 100yards while lifting 100lbs, let alone the 550lbs he walks with.



have you ever tried to wrestle? you think you have good cardio until you try, if he gets winded from throwing a few punches on mits, hes gonna have a heartattack on the ground lol :)


no doubt he has some tools, but hes gotta work HARD to improve alot from that fight hehe :)

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2009, 08:02:52 AM »
have you ever tried to wrestle? you think you have good cardio until you try, if he gets winded from throwing a few punches on mits, hes gonna have a heartattack on the ground lol :)


no doubt he has some tools, but hes gotta work HARD to improve alot from that fight hehe :)

i agree he needs work, but his strength will get him by.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2009, 08:19:10 AM »
Pudzi would be a fcuking beast if he went to the UFC.

Always been known for stamina in strongman events.

So he should have the ability to train that part of the game.

And I want to see a BJJ expert try to lock anything on Pudzi.

He's no Houston Alexander, because Alexander wasn't 50% stronger than his opponents. Which probably Pudzi are in many excersises.

His military shoulder press is around 400 lbs raw. Which is on another level from most of his opponents.

I think he'll do better than what many expects.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2009, 02:41:00 PM »
Pudzi would be a fcuking beast if he went to the UFC.

Always been known for stamina in strongman events.

So he should have the ability to train that part of the game.

And I want to see a BJJ expert try to lock anything on Pudzi.

He's no Houston Alexander, because Alexander wasn't 50% stronger than his opponents. Which probably Pudzi are in many excersises.

His military shoulder press is around 400 lbs raw. Which is on another level from most of his opponents.

I think he'll do better than what many expects.


If Pudz fought in the UFC, he would prolly weigh closer to 265.  Athletic commisions test, and no way he can stay on  with a test looming.  A good heavyweight BJJ guy would take him down, take the top and punch him until the ref stops it.  A submission would be incidental if Pudz gave up an arm.  I think he could be a big draw in Japan, where they don't test.  I'd love to see him fight Overeem, Barnett, Mark Hunt, Fujita, Gilbert Yvel, Badr Hari. 

The reason he looked winded is he wasn't breathing, and all that mass carries an oxygen debt, faster to gas when exterting oneself at sub maximal levels. 

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2009, 03:50:02 PM »
LOL @ all you haters, for his first major fight he did better then Lesnar :) he actually won :)

and ROFL @ all you fighting experts out there (swede, americanbulldog, etc.) where are the videos on youtube of your fights tough guys ??


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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2009, 03:53:01 PM »
what do you know about fighting? have you ever been in a fight? what do you know about how functional strength effects athletic capability and thus fighting capability?

answer to all three are no.

marius is the worlds strongest man several times over. and that strength transfers over to fighting, since it is real world strength, functional strength. the guy walks around carrying weights triple his opponents, he pulls shit that weighs 5 -7 times their weigh, he tosses around and fucks around with all sorts of different objects that weigh much more than any person he'll have to fight.  if it comes down to it, mariuz could just get a hold of the guy and toss him. not much to do against that type of power.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2009, 04:14:04 PM »
LOL at all the fight experts here cutting up his form. Pudz comes from a Kyokushin background and thats exactly how they kick, his form is perfect.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2009, 04:20:42 PM »
I love these relics from the UFC 1 that still think BJJ without anything else is so dominant over everyone--strikers, big guys, etc.
Even if as Bulldog said, it would require world class strikers and world class wrestlers to beat him--what does that say for strength?
That's basically and admittance that, despite having an (assumed) limited skill set, a very strong guy can potentially beat everyone except those considered "world-class", and establish himself very quickly. I've always said strength is AT LEAST equal to skill as a factor in fighting, and it's true.

Again, look at Rogers--he's a very powerful guy that just broke out of Fedor's grapple attempts without any real technique. He gave Fedor more trouble than anyone, and it's due to his power--nothing more.

Strength is equale to speed but endurance and skill are paramount in a fight. If what you said was true Bob Sapp would be the HW Champ. Strength is important in a fight for sure though.
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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2009, 04:21:16 PM »
even if i had a sword and chain mail in the ring marious would still take my life.

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #98 on: December 15, 2009, 04:29:41 PM »
anyone know if he is gonna fight in the ufc???? thats what i wanna see not the japan thing....i dont think there is a big time real good test in the ufc i really dont!!!  i think he gets by n looks the same just lighter cause he will train specifically for fightin..he will be more ripped n alittle trimmer but will appear bigger cause of the ripped effect..again anyone heard what he does next i may have missed it if sumone already posted it    thanks

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Re: Marius Pudzianowski MMA Fight Video(Knockout at 44 sec.)
« Reply #99 on: December 15, 2009, 04:35:24 PM »
Strength is equale to speed but endurance and skill are paramount in a fight. If what you said was true Bob Sapp would be the HW Champ. Strength is important in a fight for sure though.

It's a combination of all factors, but let's face it, Bob Sapp had NO fighting experience when he started fighting in Japan, he was just a big jacked dude, and at the same time that size and strength helped him win all the fights he won, because he sure didn't win them on skill... my point being if he didn't have his size or strength his record wouldn't be 10-6-1 (yes, that's 10 wins)

hell that's a better record then a lot of ufc guys.