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Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« on: January 08, 2010, 07:31:30 PM »

Three friends go to a restaurant ( Mr. A, Mr.B, and Mr.C). The food bill comes out to be $25. Each person puts in $10 towards the bill, totaling $30. The waitress therefore returns five $1 bills. Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each take $1, and they leave the remaining $2 for the waitress.

So Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each put in $10, and got $1 back, therefore they each spent $9. So we multiple $9 which each person spent by 3, and we get $27 in total, then we add the $2 tip which we left for the waitress, and we get $29. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING $1 ???

Can anyone explain the fault with this scenario/logic ?


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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2010, 07:33:45 PM »
The initial payment of $30 is accounted for as the clerk takes $25, the bellhop takes $2, and the guests get a $3 refund. It adds up. After the refund has been applied, we only have to account for a payment of $27. Again, the clerk keeps $25 and the bellhop gets $2. This also adds up.

There is no reason to add the $2 and $27 – the $2 is contained within the $27 already. Thus the addition is meaningless. Instead the $2 should be subtracted from the $27 to get the revised bill of $25.

This becomes clearer when the initial and net payments are written as simple equations. The first equation shows what happened to the initial payment of $30:

    $30 (initial payment) = $25 (to clerk) + $2 (to bellhop) +$3 (refund)

The second equation shows the net payment after the refund is applied (subtracted from both sides):

    $27 (net payment) = $25 (to clerk) + $2 (to bellhop)

Both equations make sense, with equal totals on either side of the equal sign. The correct way to get the bellhop's $2 and the guests $27 on the same side of the equal sign ("The bellhop has $2, and the guests paid $27, how does that add up?") is to subtract, not add:

    $27 (final payment) - $2 (to bellhop) = $25 (to clerk)
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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2010, 07:46:41 PM »
i understand it mathematically, but just think about the scenario, whats wrong with the logic?

the bill is 25$, and we each pay 10 so the waitress has 30. she returns five $1 bills, each take one dollar, and leave the remaining 2 for her.

so now everyone has paid 10$ and got 1$ back, so they spent 9$, and the waitress got 2$. so to get the initial $30, we do ( 3 x 9)+2= 29 and not 30.


HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE SCENARIO, not mathematically, just follow the scenario and see where the fault with the logic is ( if any)

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2010, 07:50:13 PM »
your logic is wrong, there is no 29 $

if you spend each 9$ thats including the tip so there is only a 27 $ total, what remains is 3 X 1$ for each

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 11:07:05 PM »
They didn't spend $29.

They spent $8.33 on food and $.67 on tips. That comes to $9. 3 x $9 = $27. They all walk out with $1.

Seems fair.

Then again, I am a quantitative analyst working on risk analysis for exotic derivatives trades for Goldman Sachs, so this kind of 'split the bill' math comes fairly easy to me. I can however empathise with someone of lower intelligence not understanding the simple concepts.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 11:14:42 PM »
They didn't spend $29.

They spent $8.33 on food and $.67 on tips. That comes to $9. 3 x $9 = $27. They all walk out with $1.

Seems fair.

Then again, I am a quantitative analyst working on risk analysis for exotic derivatives trades for Goldman Sachs, so this kind of 'split the bill' math comes fairly easy to me. I can however empathise with someone of lower intelligence not understanding the simple concepts.
Shit, I  never thought they spent $29 in the first place, and I hate math. There is a saying, it's easy to make something complicated, but hard to make something simple. This was quite simple.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2010, 07:04:42 AM »
They didn't spend $29.

They spent $8.33 on food and $.67 on tips. That comes to $9. 3 x $9 = $27. They all walk out with $1.

Seems fair.

Then again, I am a quantitative analyst working on risk analysis for exotic derivatives trades for Goldman Sachs, so this kind of 'split the bill' math comes fairly easy to me. I can however empathise with someone of lower intelligence not understanding the simple concepts.

did you read the post above yours? btw im weak in mathematics

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2010, 07:18:36 AM »
How do you explain this logic?

I walk into a strip club with 600 bucks.
After countless lapdances, a blowjob, and handjob I leave with ZERO dollars.

Where did the money go?  How do you account for the missing 600 bucks?

 ???

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 07:54:48 AM »
How do you explain this logic?

I walk into a strip club with 600 bucks.
After countless lapdances, a blowjob, and handjob I leave with ZERO dollars.

Where did the money go?  How do you account for the missing 600 bucks?

 ???

Ask the guys who you gave the money to for the dances.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2010, 08:25:45 AM »
did you read the post above yours? btw im weak in mathematics

Yeah you's right, he screwed up anyways.. he said 9.3 x 9 =27 when he should have multiplied it by 3.  I'll give him part marks.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 08:30:16 AM »
You are ALL wrong.

The only fucked up scenario here is that the poor waitress walked away with only a $2 tip.

10% of 25 = $2.50  <~~~  Kids give this kind of tip.

15% of 25 = $3.75  <~~~  Standard tip amount.

20% of 25 = $5.00  <~~~  What a man with class gives (GETBIGGER).


Out of $25, $2 is equal to an 8% tip and that's fucking sad.

The only fucked up scenario here is that you and your buddies are a bunch of cheap bastards.


Here's another "1", add that to the tip..


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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 08:35:57 AM »
You are ALL wrong.

The only fucked up scenario here is that the poor waitress walked away with only a $2 tip.

10% of 25 = $2.50  <~~~  Kids give this kind of tip.

15% of 25 = $3.75  <~~~  Standard tip amount.

20% of 25 = $5.00  <~~~  What a man with class gives (GETBIGGER).


Out of $25, $2 is equal to an 8% tip and that's fucking sad.

The only fucked up scenario here is that you and your buddies are a bunch of cheap bastards.


Here's another "1", add that to the tip..



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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2010, 08:39:00 AM »
Also, El Mariachi actually pointed it out in the simplest of ways.

All three of you walked away with $1.  That means that each of you put down $9, which includes the tip given to the waitress.

Here is where the math becomes simple.

Take the $9 you each (3) put down and add that up: $9 + $9 + $9 = $27

Add to that amount what each of you is walking away with: ~~>  + $3
                                                                                            -----
You have the total amount spent to begin with: ~~~~~~~~~~~~>  $30


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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2010, 08:53:03 AM »
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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2010, 08:59:22 AM »

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2010, 09:37:33 AM »
Just ask for separate bills.
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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2010, 10:02:59 AM »
Yeah you's right, he screwed up anyways.. he said 9.3 x 9 =27 when he should have multiplied it by 3.  I'll give him part marks.

So I copied  ;)

Anyway - if we are being pedantic, I did not say 9.3 The "." was the end of my sentence and the "3", the start of a new one.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2010, 03:47:08 PM »
Three friends go to a restaurant ( Mr. A, Mr.B, and Mr.C). The food bill comes out to be $25. Each person puts in $10 towards the bill, totaling $30. The waitress therefore returns five $1 bills. Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each take $1, and they leave the remaining $2 for the waitress.

So Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each put in $10, and got $1 back, therefore they each spent $9. So we multiple $9 which each person spent by 3, and we get $27 in total, then we add the $2 tip which we left for the waitress, and we get $29. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING $1 ???

Can anyone explain the fault with this scenario/logic ?



Need more info...What race are they? Or is the tip amount the dead give-a-way?

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2010, 03:58:01 PM »
Three friends go to a restaurant ( Mr. A, Mr.B, and Mr.C). The food bill comes out to be $25. Each person puts in $10 towards the bill, totaling $30. The waitress therefore returns five $1 bills. Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each take $1, and they leave the remaining $2 for the waitress.

So Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each put in $10, and got $1 back, therefore they each spent $9. So we multiple $9 which each person spent by 3, and we get $27 in total, then we add the $2 tip which we left for the waitress, and we get $29. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING $1 ???

Can anyone explain the fault with this scenario/logic ?


the part in bold is wrong.
they paid $27. 25 toward the bill, 2 for the waitress.

 Adding in the statement in bold would tip her an extra $2, which they never paid.
follow the arrows

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2010, 04:01:05 PM »
How do you explain this logic?

I walk into a strip club with 600 bucks.
After countless lapdances, a blowjob, and handjob I leave with ZERO dollars.

Where did the money go?  How do you account for the missing 600 bucks?

 ???
It turned out there really isn't any sex in the champagne room?

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2010, 04:17:13 PM »
How do you explain this logic?

I walk into a strip club with 600 bucks.
After countless lapdances, a blowjob, and handjob I leave with ZERO dollars.

Where did the money go?  How do you account for the missing 600 bucks?

 ???
Bitches will steal man

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2010, 04:46:47 PM »
Three friends go to a restaurant ( Mr. A, Mr.B, and Mr.C). The food bill comes out to be $25. Each person puts in $10 towards the bill, totaling $30. The waitress therefore returns five $1 bills. Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each take $1, and they leave the remaining $2 for the waitress.

So Mr.A, Mr.B, and MR.C each put in $10, and got $1 back, therefore they each spent $9. So we multiple $9 which each person spent by 3, and we get $27 in total, then we add the $2 tip which we left for the waitress, and we get $29. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MISSING $1 ???

Can anyone explain the fault with this scenario/logic ?

A getbigger shitting himself over a dollar.

Wow.


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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2010, 07:12:46 PM »
So I copied  ;)

Anyway - if we are being pedantic, I did not say 9.3 The "." was the end of my sentence and the "3", the start of a new one.

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Re: Fucked up Scenario, who can explain???
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