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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #100 on: January 26, 2011, 07:33:51 PM »
Fantastic retort! And you are not "laughing out loud", so cut the bullshit. ::)

Just as I suspected...I call him on his lack of knowledge and all of a sudden McNuts tells us, "Sorry, I gotta run! I'm too busy to respond."
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LMFAO again do some research

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

The border states in the Union were West Virginia (which separated from Virginia and became a new state), and four of the five northernmost slave states (Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, and Kentucky).

again the issue was states rights, slavery was how that issue manifested itself...

succession was another manifestation of states rights...

the civil war would never have happend if the southern states didnt succed

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #101 on: January 26, 2011, 07:40:42 PM »
LMFAO again do some research
Yes, please let's do so...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

The border states in the Union were West Virginia (which separated from Virginia and became a new state), and four of the five northernmost slave states (Maryland, Delaware, Missouri, and Kentucky).
This says nothing about the reasons re: the cause of the Civil War.  ???

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again the issue was states rights, slavery was how that issue manifested itself...

succession was another manifestation of states rights...
McNuts, succession and the war the Confederacy knew it would lead to was indeed about "states rights"...THE STATE'S RIGHTS TO OWN SLAVES.

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the civil war would never have happend if the southern states didnt succed
[genuine]LOL!
No shit Sherlock. You going to tell me next that WWII wouldn't have begun if Hitler hadn't invaded Austria and then Poland.
Duh!  ::)
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2011, 07:44:26 PM »
Yes, please let's do so...
This says nothing about the reasons re: the cause of the Civil War.  ???
McNuts, succession and the war the Confederacy knew it would lead to was indeed about "states rights"...THE STATE'S RIGHTS TO OWN SLAVES.
[genuine]LOL!
No shit Sherlock. You going to tell me next that WWII wouldn't have begun if Hitler hadn't invaded Austria and then Poland.
Duh!  ::)

What plantation are you from?  

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2011, 07:44:44 PM »
I can't believe Tony is arguing this with me. You from the south, McNuts? Y'all have been trying to re-write history for the past 150 years, but facts are stubborn things.


Most historians say it is impossible to carve out slavery from the context of the war. As James W. Loewen, historian and author of “Lies My Teacher Told Me,” put it: “The North did not go to war to end slavery, it went to war to hold the country together and only gradually did it become anti-slavery — but slavery is why the South seceded.

In its secession papers, Mississippi, for example, called slavery “the greatest material interest of the world” and said that attempts to stop it would undermine “commerce and civilization.”



Slavery was THE BACKBONE of the southern economy, and southerners were willing to die to preserve it. They knew that without enslaved Africans providing free labor, they would starve.
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2011, 07:46:48 PM »
What plantation are you from?  
You lost me, PB.  Was that an attempt at comedy? ???

Put down the bottle, sober up, and think real hard about whether you have anything worthwhile to contribute.
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2011, 07:47:44 PM »

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2011, 07:47:59 PM »
What plantation are you from?  

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2011, 07:48:43 PM »
Yes, please let's do so...
This says nothing about the reasons re: the cause of the Civil War.  ???
McNuts, succession and the war the Confederacy knew it would lead to was indeed about "states rights"...THE STATE'S RIGHTS TO OWN SLAVES.
[genuine]LOL!
No shit Sherlock. You going to tell me next that WWII wouldn't have begun if Hitler hadn't invaded Austria and then Poland.
Duh!  ::)
first you asked me what slave states fought for the union

2nd it shows that more than simply slavery was the reason for the civil war

actually it was that the north didnt recognize slave owners rights when they were in states other than their own...

there were also politicians that passed laws against slaves b/c they felt threatened by rich slave owners getting to much political clout...

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2011, 07:50:03 PM »

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2011, 07:51:24 PM »
Racist post reported.

Not at all, the way Benny talks to McWay leads one to believe he has intimate familiaraity with how a plantation works, its makeup, who works where, etc.   

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2011, 07:53:30 PM »



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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2011, 08:04:54 PM »
first you asked me what slave states fought for the union
Correct, but does not have any relevance to your original statement.

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2nd it shows that more than simply slavery was the reason for the civil war

Most of the wars in human history have several reasons that come to a head in the form of military aggression. The Civil War was no different. HOWEVER, this was your quote:
correct but again slavery wasnt the main issue

This is factually incorrect. All you have to do is read the articles of secession filed by each state to know that this is fact.

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actually it was that the north didnt recognize slave owners rights when they were in states other than their own...
Which is another way of explaining that the Civil War was fought primarily to preserve slavery in the south.  ;)
Because of the movement to stop slavery (the abolitionist movement that was primarily based in the north) southerners concluded that all or most northerners were against them and wanted to destroy their way of life. Southerners developed the illusion that all northerners were against them and it united the southern states.

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there were also politicians that passed laws against slaves b/c they felt threatened by rich slave owners getting to much political clout...
Wrong. What in actuality the abolitionists were arguing for was to give enslaved Africans full citizenship, which would include the right to vote. Given that slaves actually outnumbered whites in many southern states, southern slave owners knew Africans would vote to abolish the despicable practice, thereby gaining their freedom and whitey could kiss his wealth and free labor goodbye.  ;)

Where are you from, McNuts?
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2011, 08:09:20 PM »
Not at all, the way Benny talks to McWay leads one to believe he has intimate familiaraity with how a plantation works, its makeup, who works where, etc.   
What does McWay have to do with this thread? And just what the fuck are you babbling about, anyway? "Familiarity with how a plantation works,etc."  ??? Go to bed, PEA BRAIN.  ::)
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2011, 08:11:49 PM »
Correct, but does not have any relevance to your original statement.

Most of the wars in human history have several reasons that come to a head in the form of military aggression. The Civil War was no different. HOWEVER, this was your quote:
This is factually incorrect. All you have to do is read the articles of secession filed by each state to know that this is fact.
Which is another way of explaining that the Civil War was fought primarily to preserve slavery in the south.  ;)
Because of the movement to stop slavery (the abolitionist movement that was primarily based in the north) southerners concluded that all or most northerners were against them and wanted to destroy their way of life. Southerners developed the illusion that all northerners were against them and it united the southern states.
Wrong. What in actuality the abolitionists were arguing for was to give enslaved Africans full citizenship, which would include the right to vote. Given that slaves actually outnumbered whites in many southern states, southern slave owners knew Africans would vote to abolish the despicable practice, thereby gaining their freedom and whitey could kiss his wealth and free labor goodbye.  ;)

Where are you from, McNuts?
LOL again states rights was the issue

as for the legislation you said i was wrong about

The Tariff of 1828, was a high protective tariff or tax on imports passed by Congress in 1828. It was labeled the "Tariff of Abominations"[65] by its southern detractors because of its effect on the Southern economy. The 1828 tariff was repealed after strong protests and threats of nullification by South Carolina.

The Democrats in Congress, controlled by Southerners, wrote the tariff laws in the 1830s, 1840s, and 1850s, and kept reducing rates, so that the 1857 rates were the lowest since 1816. The South had no complaints but the low rates angered Northern industrialists and factory workers, especially in Pennsylvania, who demanded protection for their growing iron industry. The Whigs and Republicans favored high tariffs to stimulate industrial growth, and Republicans called for an increase in tariffs in the 1860 election. The increases were finally enacted in 1861 after Southerners resigned their seats in Congress.[66][67]

Historians in recent decades have minimized the tariff issue, noting that few people in 1860-61 said it was of central importance to them. Some secessionist documents do mention the tariff issue, though not nearly as often as the preservation of slavery. However, a few libertarian economists place more importance on the tariff issue.[68]

Antislavery forces in the North identified the "Slave Power" as a direct threat to republican values. They argued that rich slave owners were using political power to take control of the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court, thus threatening the rights of the citizens of the North.[63]

"Free soil" was a Northern demand that the new lands opening up in the west be available to independent yeoman farmers and not be bought out by rich slave owners who would buy up the best land and work it with slaves, forcing the white farmers onto marginal lands. This was the basis of the Free Soil Party of 1848, and a main theme of the Republican Party.[64]

slavery was how the issue manifested itself...

lmfao ill tell you where im from when you tell me what firm you work for and analyze economic data for all day  ::)

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2011, 08:27:51 PM »
Liberals love attacking women for some reason, esepcially hotties who fire full bore on far left freaks like bama. 

Eh, that's weak man.

I hear this all the time.  no, i bashed palin cause she sucks.  A total overconfident flipflopping dummy quitter, to be clear.

KB Hutchinson?  bachmann?  They rock.  I like them.

I think "libs hate them cause they're women" is just more plying the victim (gender) card.  Hilary's approval is miles higher than Palin's, if you need proof ;)

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2011, 08:34:53 PM »
LOL again states rights was the issue
Arguing with you is useless, since you know more than the historians who've dedicated much of their lives to the subject.  ::)
Once again, everyone knows it was partially about "states rights." The right TO WHAT, exactly? Answer: THE RIGHT TO OWN SLAVES.

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as for the legislation you said i was wrong about

The Tariff of 1828, was a high protective tariff or tax on imports passed by Congress in 1828. It was labeled the "Tariff of Abominations"[65] by its southern detractors because of its effect on the Southern economy. The 1828 tariff was repealed after strong protests and threats of nullification by South Carolina.

The Democrats in Congress, controlled by Southerners, wrote the tariff laws in the 1830s, 1840s, and 1850s, and kept reducing rates, so that the 1857 rates were the lowest since 1816. The South had no complaints but the low rates angered Northern industrialists and factory workers, especially in Pennsylvania, who demanded protection for their growing iron industry. The Whigs and Republicans favored high tariffs to stimulate industrial growth, and Republicans called for an increase in tariffs in the 1860 election. The increases were finally enacted in 1861 after Southerners resigned their seats in Congress.[66][67]

Historians in recent decades have minimized the tariff issue, noting that few people in 1860-61 said it was of central importance to them. Some secessionist documents do mention the tariff issue, though not nearly as often as the preservation of slavery. However, a few libertarian economists place more importance on the tariff issue.[68]

Antislavery forces in the North identified the "Slave Power" as a direct threat to republican values. They argued that rich slave owners were using political power to take control of the Presidency, Congress and the Supreme Court, thus threatening the rights of the citizens of the North.[63]

"Free soil" was a Northern demand that the new lands opening up in the west be available to independent yeoman farmers and not be bought out by rich slave owners who would buy up the best land and work it with slaves, forcing the white farmers onto marginal lands. This was the basis of the Free Soil Party of 1848, and a main theme of the Republican Party.[64]

slavery was how the issue manifested itself...
All superfluous bullshit. You can copy and paste all you want to justify the fact that since you are from the south, it embarrasses you to admit that 600,000 Americans died because your backwards region wanted to preserve the despicable institution of slavery.

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lmfao ill tell you where im from when you tell me what firm you work for and analyze economic data for all day  ::)
LOL 
Still, bitter, butthurt and jealous, I see.  :-\ That's not going to get you far in life Tony...you need to work on that aspect of your personality if you want to go from making cold calls to old ladies all day hoping to hoodwink them into buying stocks.  ;)

As I just posted in the other thread:
I work for the firm of Dewey, Cheatam, & Howe. Our newest website is noneofyourfuckingbusiness.com

I know you are stupid, but be serious. If you are working for BoA as you claim you do, you know that there are confidentiality and conduct clauses written into your employment. You should know better than to ask me such an inane question on a public message board and expect a response. What percentage of people on this board post where they work? You might want to think twice about all you say and do here too, son.  ;)

So...where ya from McNuts? Been to New York before? Or are you down in Charlotte...as I suspect?
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #116 on: January 27, 2011, 07:18:40 AM »
Michele Bachamnn's Iwo Jima Fail

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #117 on: January 27, 2011, 07:21:51 AM »
Speaking to a group called Iowans For Tax Relief, Bachmann seemed to whitewash our painful history over slavery!
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #118 on: January 27, 2011, 07:37:42 AM »
Why do black liberals/socialists like yourself hate middle cass white women so much? 

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #119 on: January 27, 2011, 07:47:45 AM »
Why do black liberals/socialists like yourself hate middle cass white women so much? 
There is a lot of irony in this pathetic attempt at projection-ism, but I won't even bother going there. :P


What I'd like to know is why you NY wops white conservative/regressives hate intelligent white women so much?

If we just stick to politics  :-X :
Amy Jean Klobuchar
Janet Napolitano
Jennifer Granholm
Claire McCaskill
Debbie Stabenow


I could go on and on...


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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2011, 07:50:01 AM »
There is a lot of irony in this pathetic attempt at projection-ism, but I won't even bother going there. :P


What I'd like to know is why you NY wops white conservative/regressives hate intelligent white women so much?

If we just stick to politics  :-X :
Amy Jean Klobuchar
Janet Napolitano
Jennifer Granholm
Claire McCaskill
Debbie Stabenow


I could go on and on...





Sounds like the angry hags/dykes    /   fat accepance club. 


BTW - why didnt you ass Romer, Reno, Kagan et al to that list of beauties?   

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #121 on: January 27, 2011, 08:03:09 AM »

Sounds like the angry hags/dykes    /   fat accepance club. 


BTW - why didnt you ass Romer, Reno, Kagan et al to that list of beauties?   

Perhaps I should have made my question more specific:

What I'd like to know is why you NY wops white conservative/regressives hate intelligent white women who you don't want to masturbate to so much? Is it intelligence, or is it a face that makes you tug on your little three inch willy that is most important in a female politician?

Sexually frustrated much, PEA BRAIN?
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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #122 on: January 27, 2011, 08:06:22 AM »
Why didnt you add this prize to your list   

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #123 on: January 27, 2011, 08:08:26 AM »
Why didnt you add this prize to your list   
Perhaps because your statement was re: "white women?"  ::)

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Re: The Official Michele Bachmann 2012 Appreciation Thread
« Reply #124 on: January 27, 2011, 08:09:53 AM »
Perhaps because your statement was re: "white women?"  ::)

Dumb bastard.


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