Job losses tally 54,000 today alone.

[big man]

well I have applied to banks (even teller positions), data entry everything under the sun..it sucks truely does..but yet this fucking government is giving Haiti all this fucking money. I'm luckier than most, my parents gifted me the house a few years ago with no mortgage. No car payment, no credit card debt. I get max unemployment so I am lucky in that aspect but still

With all due respect Haiti needs the money way more than you based on your statement......

''I'm luckier than most, my parents gifted me the house a few years ago with no mortgage. No car payment, no credit card debt. I get max unemployment so I am lucky in that aspect''

[kcballer]

tHEY WOULD NOT BE OVERSTRETCHED IF oBAMA WOULD DO SOMETHING GOOD.iF HE WOULD SAY no cap and trade,no health care ,payroll tax cuts are coming,capitol gains tax are here.If he would actually do something to help instead of doing everything he can to hurt things would get better instead of worse.If he and his stupid ass government would just get the hell out of the way things would improve.

Walmart and Verizon would still be over stretched or in trouble.  These job losses have nothing to do with taxes.  You can't cut taxes to take away from a company that has overinflated or is losing business in a competitive market.  that is the nature of business is it not? or should the govt always accommodate losing business as best it can?  If that is your stance you must be glad about the GM take over.  

[MuscleMcMannus]

With all due respect Haiti needs the money way more than you based on your statement......

''I'm luckier than most, my parents gifted me the house a few years ago with no mortgage. No car payment, no credit card debt. I get max unemployment so I am lucky in that aspect''

Not only that if she's so frustrated with her job prospects and has no mortgage, car payment or otherwise debt GO THE FUCK BACK TO SCHOOL and quit wasting time and energy on getbig.  My god Americans are some of the biggest pity sponges around.  

[kcballer]

One difference KC, Obama added over a trillion in debt with no benefit whatsoever. 

Like i said stimulus aside, isn't this what you wanted all along? Market correction?  Answer that without this (one difference BS).  I've already stated stimulus aside isn't this what you wanted for the country, no govt stimulus and a market correction?

[big man]

Walmart and Verizon would still be over stretched or in trouble.  These job losses have nothing to do with taxes.  You can't cut taxes to take away from a company that has overinflated or is losing business in a competitive market.  that is the nature of business is it not? or should the govt always accommodate losing business as best it can?  If that is your stance you must be glad about the GM take over.  

I agree with this.... simply put, you need to charge people less in a troubled economy and pay workers reasonably good and your business will do better.
You know what Walmart pays the guys who works on cars? (oil changes,tires) Barely $10 bucks an hour? Maybe, and how much is Walmart making off that one car that needs new tires?
Verizon and Sprint are the same way. They have high ass phone bills all the time and are in stiff competition with other companies that offer the same things but cheaper...Why are people doing bad? Cause big execs are greedy.

[BM OUT]

I agree with this.... simply put, you need to charge people less in a troubled economy and pay workers reasonably good and your business will do better.
You know what Walmart pays the guys who works on cars? (oil changes,tires) Barely $10 bucks an hour? Maybe, and how much is Walmart making off that one car that needs new tires?
Verizon and Sprint are the same way. They have high ass phone bills all the time and are in stiff competition with other companies that offer the same things but cheaper...Why are people doing bad? Cause big execs are greedy.

Thats how companies sell things.WE WANT low prices on things.The big problem in this country is people make to much money doing bullshit jobs.Union idiots have bankrupted company after company because unskilled nit wits makke 30.00 and hour turning a freaking screw.Now,greedy execs are not the problem,dumb ass government regulation is the problem,taxes are the problem,rules put into private buisiness is the problem,power hungry little community organisers are the problem."Greedy execs" make this country work,they hire people,create jobs,government is the albotrose around EVERYONES neck strangling the creativity and incentive of Americans.

[Soul Crusher]

I agree with this.... simply put, you need to charge people less in a troubled economy and pay workers reasonably good and your business will do better.
You know what Walmart pays the guys who works on cars? (oil changes,tires) Barely $10 bucks an hour? Maybe, and how much is Walmart making off that one car that needs new tires?
Verizon and Sprint are the same way. They have high ass phone bills all the time and are in stiff competition with other companies that offer the same things but cheaper...Why are people doing bad? Cause big execs are greedy.

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Unreal.  Dude, seriously, read a damn econ 101 book for fucks' sake. 

[Kazan]

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Unreal.  Dude, seriously, read a damn econ 101 book for fucks' sake. 

I guess the constant drumbeat of classwarfare is having the desired effect

[Soul Crusher]

I guess the constant drumbeat of classwarfare is having the desired effect

The level of economic ignornace displayed by KC an this other guy is pathetic. 

[kcballer]

The level of economic ignornace displayed by KC an this other guy is pathetic. 

where i have displayed ignorance 333?  Walmart was growing far too big for it's own good.  it had to downsize this is economics at it's simplest is it not? You still didn't answer my question BTW.  not scared are you?

[Soul Crusher]

where i have displayed ignorance 333?  Walmart was growing far too big for it's own good.  it had to downsize this is economics at it's simplest is it not? You still didn't answer my question BTW.  not scared are you?

They are laying people off because the economy is racing off a cliff and there is no improvement whatsoever, despite the TRILLIONS spent on utter garbage by the government.  Same with verizon, same with Walmart, and the same with almost every other company in the nation who sees that this government is doing a horrible job on every level. 

[kcballer]

They are laying people off because the economy is racing off a cliff and there is no improvement whatsoever, despite the TRILLIONS spent on utter garbage by the government.  Same with verizon, same with Walmart, and the same with almost every other company in the nation who sees that this government is doing a horrible job on every level. 

But were you or were you not for a market correction and not for govt interference?  Isn't this the scenario you wanted all along?  I mean minus the stimulus of course but didn't you want layoffs and corrections right from the get go?

[Soul Crusher]

But were you or were you not for a market correction and not for govt interference?  Isn't this the scenario you wanted all along?  I mean minus the stimulus of course but didn't you want layoffs and corrections right from the get go?

Yes, and what dont you understand that we placed trillions of debt on top of the already bad situation that amounts to a massive future tax increase, massive fututre inflation, and/or no possibility of recovery? Do you not understand the impact of adding further debt at a time like this on wasteful govt spending?  Of course you dont. 

Obama went on his little spending spree and we have nothing to show for it other than debt, a devalued dollar, continued increase in UE, and no recovery whatsoever in sight. 

[newmom]

Not only that if she's so frustrated with her job prospects and has no mortgage, car payment or otherwise debt GO THE FUCK BACK TO SCHOOL and quit wasting time and energy on getbig.  My god Americans are some of the biggest pity sponges around.  

hey nitwit..I have 2 degrees, why the fuck go back to school..A, would have to get a loan..HELLO I dont want any debt or B do a student loan no thanks..Im not looking nor want pitty..

[newmom]

and the Haiti comment was not geared towards myself, but there are plenty of americans with mortgages, credit debt, student loans, college tuition for their kids, so on and so forth..yet they are not making it..DUH..god some of you ass munchers that lift weight are fucking retards

[tonymctones]

YO Mama if youre really hard up for a job try Tax service companies they are all pretty strapped for personnel right now with tax season about to hop into full swing.

Im pretty much in the same boat I have a degree but cant get a job and Im back in school at nights trying to get into an MBA program. I too applied for EVERY FREAKING JOB under the sun that I thought might help me get to where I wanted to go without avail. I got on with H&R block but only as a customer service rep but they have really good benefits for their employees and you can take their tax courses for 20 bucks.

Just a thought hope it helps

[Al Doggity]

Yes, and what dont you understand that we placed trillions of debt on top of the already bad situation that amounts to a massive future tax increase, massive fututre inflation, and/or no possibility of recovery? Do you not understand the impact of adding further debt at a time like this on wasteful govt spending?  Of course you dont. 

Obama went on his little spending spree and we have nothing to show for it other than debt, a devalued dollar, continued increase in UE, and no recovery whatsoever in sight. 

Except those points have no relation to the Verizon and Walmart layoffs. His point is that- ONCE AGAIN- you are using a totally unrelated even that, theoretically, you should be supporting to blast Obama. This is a habit for you, at least the second time you've done this today. In none of your subsequent posts have you shown that he was incorrect, or even supported your initial point.

[MuscleMcMannus]

YO Mama if youre really hard up for a job try Tax service companies they are all pretty strapped for personnel right now with tax season about to hop into full swing.

Im pretty much in the same boat I have a degree but cant get a job and Im back in school at nights trying to get into an MBA program. I too applied for EVERY FREAKING JOB under the sun that I thought might help me get to where I wanted to go without avail. I got on with H&R block but only as a customer service rep but they have really good benefits for their employees and you can take their tax courses for 20 bucks.

Just a thought hope it helps

MBA?  That's the stupidest thing you can do right now.  If you were any good at business you'd be running your own or working for a company instead of going back to school listening to someone else tell you how to be a businessman.

And for newmom how the fuck do you have two degrees and still not be able to find a job?  Doesn't sound like you have very valuable degrees if you are applying for adminstrative jobs.  Did you get them in ceramics and psychology or something? 

[big man]

The level of economic ignornace displayed by KC an this other guyBig man is pathetic. 

Listen 333333trillion86 I'm a realist and see stuff for what it is. You sound like a person who can't handle the truth.
Bottom line is people up top got greedy. Giving a .25cent raise when gas is 4 bucks is not going to cut it. (I'm not going to even talk oil...(Bush)
You think that type of stuff doesn't hurt the economy, wrong. Put the money in the consumers hands and they will buy and keep the money circulating. Now everyone is scared crazy to spend a dime and saving-thus no money circulating.

[big man]

Thats how companies sell things.WE WANT low prices on things.The big problem in this country is people make to much money doing bullshit jobs.Union idiots have bankrupted company after company because unskilled nit wits makke 30.00 and hour turning a freaking screw.Now,greedy execs are not the problem,dumb ass government regulation is the problem,taxes are the problem,rules put into private buisiness is the problem,power hungry little community organisers are the problem."Greedy execs" make this country work,they hire people,create jobs,government is the albotrose around EVERYONES neck strangling the creativity and incentive of Americans.

You have a good point. I don't think either one of us are wrong

[Soul Crusher]

Except those points have no relation to the Verizon and Walmart layoffs. His point is that- ONCE AGAIN- you are using a totally unrelated even that, theoretically, you should be supporting to blast Obama. This is a habit for you, at least the second time you've done this today. In none of your subsequent posts have you shown that he was incorrect, or even supported your initial point.

Nonsense Al.  Utter nonsense.  Companies look forward not backward and see absolutely no recovery whatsoever DESPITE the trillions spent.  You know why Al:

1.  The money went to the wrong sources, AS MANY OF US SAID FROM DAY ONE!

2.  Companies will not hire anyone with the prospect of massive tax hikes looming.

3.  Companies know that their customers will not have any money to spend on their products because the government is devaluing the dollar and taxing us out the yin yang. 

There was the CEO of one of the largest employment agencies in the country on CNBC this morning and he said the No 1 issue right now why companies wont hire is/are the looming tax hikes, stupid govt regulations, cap & trade, etc.

You cant blame that on Bush.     

[newmom]

MBA?  That's the stupidest thing you can do right now.  If you were any good at business you'd be running your own or working for a company instead of going back to school listening to someone else tell you how to be a businessman.

And for newmom how the fuck do you have two degrees and still not be able to find a job?  Doesn't sound like you have very valuable degrees if you are applying for adminstrative jobs.  Did you get them in ceramics and psychology or something? 

Paralegal degree and Associates in Criminal Justice

[Soul Crusher]

Paralegal degree and Associates in Criminal Justice

What about doing legal billing from home?

[kcballer]

Yes, and what dont you understand that we placed trillions of debt on top of the already bad situation that amounts to a massive future tax increase, massive fututre inflation, and/or no possibility of recovery? Do you not understand the impact of adding further debt at a time like this on wasteful govt spending?  Of course you dont. 

Obama went on his little spending spree and we have nothing to show for it other than debt, a devalued dollar, continued increase in UE, and no recovery whatsoever in sight. 

Thats your view and that's fine.  I still stand by that this bill (whilst filled with pork) can not be truly judged until 5-10 years from now whether it is a failure or success. 

My point is though 333 you're blaming Obama and the govt for something you wanted all along.  Market correction.  Do you not see the double standard there? On one hand bashing Obama for the stimulus, on the other bashing Obama for business's that would have had to make this correction stimulus or not. 

[kcballer]

MBA?  That's the stupidest thing you can do right now.  If you were any good at business you'd be running your own or working for a company instead of going back to school listening to someone else tell you how to be a businessman.

And for newmom how the fuck do you have two degrees and still not be able to find a job?  Doesn't sound like you have very valuable degrees if you are applying for adminstrative jobs.  Did you get them in ceramics and psychology or something? 

I don't think any education is 'wrong' an MBA is a great avenue but it should hopefully be from a reputable school so as to be of good use in the job hunt.  Good luck Tony and hey it could be worse you could be wiping sh*t like McMannus here