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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2010, 07:06:27 AM »
I think he might be paranoid or have paranoid tendancies. Everything he says tend to confirm this diagnostic. Basically he's saying that everyday when surrounded by random people, he feels threatened by them, and feel the need to "react" physically, like his survival is in question. That's because he has to work on his own perception of himself and the others. He sees everyone as cynical, ironical, ill intentioned toward him. This is typical of people who have been bullied , it's a kind of post traumatic stress disorder. Every new real life situation is like going thru the same trauma over and over, and he chooses to stay at home and avoid everything / and every real relationships fearing to reproduce the past conflictual situation he's been through. Every new situation looks like the past problematic situation(s), his present tastes like his past, his futur has to be like his past it cannot be otherwise; he projects his past over his present, and future unconsciously. There's never anything new in his life. It's been a long time since he discovered new feelings, emotions, now he fears them and prevent himself from doing what could make new things happen to him again anymore. It's a vicious circle. The only way to get out of it is to learn how to see himself and the others differently in a close relationship with a pro. To modify his own perception of the world, his own psychological machinery, his thought process. His current thought process is biased, unproductive, depressing, and potentially life threatening to himself and others.

The problem is that extreme avoidance and addiction to the internet dont go hand in hand well...  He has a lot of work to find a way out of all these negative behaviors and cognitions. He obviously has a poor/low self esteem, is insecure, and dont want to work cause he would feel threatened by his colleagues and the hierarchy who might see him as immature being 44 y/o with no skills and only starting to learn a job for the first time in his life. Laziness is a pure trait of immaturiry, of a stopped development. He has to learn things he never learnt, things he lacks.

Replace 44 y/o with 16 y/o and his stories could describe the life of any random teen without a figure father who struggles to find a meaning to his own existence and the others ones.

There's always a way to reverse everything, without pills,just talking with someone who truly cares - either someone you love/loves you or someone you pay in return - a pro. The more you wait the tougher it gets.


Oh, and by the way, dump your psychiatrist, and get a PSYCHOLOGIST.... not the same at all. Psychologists are way more competent.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2010, 07:18:27 AM »
That analysis doesn't jive with what I have read of Josh. He has friends but the intimacy isn't there. Usually, with women, if they are frightened by you in any way they don't develop a deep relationship with you. There was hapless Josh, interviewing a hot gal for the lads here that he knows but even though she likes him she won't be his girlfriend. So what is a guy with BPD supposed to do? Once you know what is wrong with you it still doesn't help you because you can't control or modify the way your brain is wired and certain people and situations trigger emotional responses. I think part of what happens is that there was usually some traumatic experience in childhood that has been repressed and in a sense borderlines don't develop empathy re the feelings of others. They feel empty inside and blame themselves for what happens to them and this self anger can lead to depression. When that happens the sufferer has a double whammy and who wants to be around those kind of people?

I have known a couple of people with the disorder and it was a challenge to be in a relationship with them. Even after I had read a lot of information it didn't help. Why? Well, mental illness is not something that those who don't suffer from it can comprehend. When you deal with these people and they turn on you time after time you end up getting the feeling that it is just craziness because it never makes sense. Not when you are personally involved. Borderlines don't like being that way but there is nothing they can do about it. Sometimes therapy helps and time helps. But like most mental disorders they are very difficult to manage and even more difficult to cure.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #77 on: February 07, 2010, 07:26:37 AM »
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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #78 on: February 07, 2010, 07:27:24 AM »
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you are a good guy but really, shut up, you have absolutely no fucking clue what you are talking about.

Basile has full understanding of what is up with me.

Fair enough dude.  Just wanted to state the obvious that you are the architect of your life, not some bangladeshi doctor.

I shut it up now.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #80 on: February 07, 2010, 09:15:04 AM »
Interesting to see a group of GetBiggers trying their best to come to the aid of a fellow GetBigger. That rarely happens here.

I know nothing about the subject matter in question but I was always under the 'assumption' that most illnesses such as this were a result of some adverse childhood activities/experiences.

Is this 'assumption' valid in your young life experiences/upbringing, Disturbia?




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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #81 on: February 07, 2010, 09:20:21 AM »
Interesting to see a group of GetBiggers trying their best to come to the aid of a fellow GetBigger. That rarely happens here.

I know nothing about the subject matter in question but I was always under the 'assumption' that most illnesses such as this were a result of some adverse childhood activities/experiences.

Is this 'assumption' valid in your young life experiences/upbringing, Disturbia?





yes I actually am overwhelmed and greatly appreciate everyones thoughts and input--seriously

from my upbringing? I'd have to think on this and reply later--just stepping out

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #82 on: February 07, 2010, 09:23:30 AM »
WHERE YOU GOING?
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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #83 on: February 07, 2010, 09:30:38 AM »
Just DIE and get it over with  ::)

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #84 on: February 07, 2010, 09:37:10 AM »
Interesting to see a group of GetBiggers trying their best to come to the aid of a fellow GetBigger. That rarely happens here.

I know nothing about the subject matter in question but I was always under the 'assumption' that most illnesses such as this were a result of some adverse childhood activities/experiences.

Is this 'assumption' valid in your young life experiences/upbringing, Disturbia?


Unfortunately much of this is genetic, though risk factors in socio-economic status and upbringing may increase the severity of the symptoms.

Besides that, most personality disorders are co-morbid: there are one or more other mental disorders beside the primairy diagnosis, in Avesher's case (bi-polar?) depression.

 

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #85 on: February 07, 2010, 09:40:41 AM »
I think he might be paranoid or have paranoid tendancies. Everything he says tend to confirm this diagnostic. Basically he's saying that everyday when surrounded by random people, he feels threatened by them, and feel the need to "react" physically, like his survival is in question. That's because he has to work on his own perception of himself and the others. He sees everyone as cynical, ironical, ill intentioned toward him. This is typical of people who have been bullied , it's a kind of post traumatic stress disorder. Every new real life situation is like going thru the same trauma over and over, and he chooses to stay at home and avoid everything / and every real relationships fearing to reproduce the past conflictual situation he's been through. Every new situation looks like the past problematic situation(s), his present tastes like his past, his futur has to be like his past it cannot be otherwise; he projects his past over his present, and future unconsciously. There's never anything new in his life. It's been a long time since he discovered new feelings, emotions, now he fears them and prevent himself from doing what could make new things happen to him again anymore. It's a vicious circle. The only way to get out of it is to learn how to see himself and the others differently in a close relationship with a pro. To modify his own perception of the world, his own psychological machinery, his thought process. His current thought process is biased, unproductive, depressing, and potentially life threatening to himself and others.

The problem is that extreme avoidance and addiction to the internet dont go hand in hand well...  He has a lot of work to find a way out of all these negative behaviors and cognitions. He obviously has a poor/low self esteem, is insecure, and dont want to work cause he would feel threatened by his colleagues and the hierarchy who might see him as immature being 44 y/o with no skills and only starting to learn a job for the first time in his life. Laziness is a pure trait of immaturiry, of a stopped development. He has to learn things he never learnt, things he lacks.

Replace 44 y/o with 16 y/o and his stories could describe the life of any random teen without a figure father who struggles to find a meaning to his own existence and the others ones.

There's always a way to reverse everything, without pills,just talking with someone who truly cares - either someone you love/loves you or someone you pay in return - a pro. The more you wait the tougher it gets.


Oh, and by the way, dump your psychiatrist, and get a PSYCHOLOGIST.... not the same at all. Psychologists are way more competent.

It's perfectly fine to have this kaleidoscope of mis-guided views, but don't distribute them as if they're absolute truths.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #86 on: February 07, 2010, 09:56:15 AM »
YGM. How about you?

YGM what is that?

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #87 on: February 07, 2010, 10:10:50 AM »
Nahhhh! Absolute truths are hard to come by here on GetBig. But I'm reading a lot of good, unprofessional shit from you guys about this subject.

I had a hell of life as a young kid and I often wonder why I'm not more fucked up that I actually am.

I play Poker with 'shrinks' a few times each month and I've discovered that all my problems have been a result of my up-bringing, but I don't know if that's true for Josh or any of you other GetBiggers. (From what I've see, some of you appear certifiably insane though.)

I do know that I am good at mentally creating peacefulness within myself under hostile conditions by becoming someone other than whom I am.. I can best describe that by saying that I become someone else - such as a favorite comic book character or super-hero within my own mind

And I've done this while under adverse conditions .....  and although is sounds crazy I can honestly state that it has always worked.

There is a psychiatric term for this small part of craziness, but I forget what it's called.

All a result of my childhood years in a very complicated situation.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #88 on: February 07, 2010, 10:14:21 AM »
maybe derek Anthony can help us to find an answer.
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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #89 on: February 07, 2010, 10:18:17 AM »
Uberman seems to be one of a few GetBiggers who offers sound advice so I looked this one up ..... because I had no idea what such a person (Dr.) was....

Psychologists study mental processes and human behavior by observing, interpreting, and recording how people and other animals relate to one another and the environment. To do this, psychologists often look for patterns that will help them understand and predict behavior using scientific methods, principles, or procedures to test their ideas. Through such research studies, psychologists have learned much that can help increase understanding between individuals, groups, organizations, institutions, nations, and cultures.

Like other social scientists, psychologists formulate theories, or hypotheses, which are possible explanations for what they observe. But unlike other social science disciplines, psychologists often concentrate on individual behavior and, specifically, in the beliefs and feelings that influence a person’s actions.

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Re: Regarding Who I Was, Who I am, Why I Don't Change (no ego)(yes serious)
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2010, 10:18:54 AM »
Nahhhh! Absolute truths are hard to come by here on GetBig. But I'm reading a lot of good, unprofessional shit from you guys about this subject.

I had a hell of life as a young kid and I often wonder why I'm not more fucked up that I actually am.

I play Poker with 'shrinks' a few times each month and I've discovered that all my problems have been a result of my up-bringing, but I don't know if that's true for Josh or any of you other GetBiggers. (From what I've see, some of you appear certifiably insane though.)

I do know that I am good at mentally creating peacefulness within myself under hostile conditions by becoming someone other than whom I am.. I can best describe that by saying that I become someone else - such as a favorite comic book character or super-hero within my own mind

And I've done this while under adverse conditions .....  and although is sounds crazy I can honestly state that it has always worked.

There is a psychiatric term for this small part of craziness, but I forget what it's called.

All a result of my childhood years in a very complicated situation.

Nice post, childhood is most always the problem.

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« Reply #91 on: February 07, 2010, 01:53:00 PM »
oh I'm sorry I'm just thinking out loud, daydreaming

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #92 on: February 07, 2010, 01:56:28 PM »
is it just because hes arrogant?

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #93 on: February 07, 2010, 01:57:06 PM »
You really don't like him, do you?! LOL

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #94 on: February 07, 2010, 01:57:24 PM »

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #95 on: February 07, 2010, 02:00:01 PM »
Aveseher - would you fight him if you were face to face?
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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #96 on: February 07, 2010, 02:03:20 PM »
Aveseher - would you fight him if you were face to face?

lolol
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out of all the yipping I do on here which is just that--yipping

I would take a 2 year prison term GLADLY for one shot to stick him in the hospital---easy tradeoff

no one else on here, not Vince G., no one else do I feel that way

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #97 on: February 07, 2010, 02:05:34 PM »
lolol
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out of all the yipping I do on here which is just that--yipping

I would take a 2 year prison term GLADLY for one shot to stick him in the hospital---easy tradeoff

no one else on here, not Vince G., no one else do I feel that way
Settle down bro Adonis isnt that bad is he?

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2010, 02:06:19 PM »
lolol
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out of all the yipping I do on here which is just that--yipping

I would take a 2 year prison term GLADLY for one shot to stick him in the hospital---easy tradeoff

no one else on here, not Vince G., no one else do I feel that way
This could be epic

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Re: Adonis Hit by Train Dies Horrible Death
« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2010, 02:08:54 PM »
This could be epic

no it wont he is in the States I am in Canada--I cant cross borders--end of case.

HOWEVER--if I could cross borders, I 100% WOULD spend money to travel there for just one shot. I absolutely would. omfg I sooooo would.  I'd crawl across a desert on my tongue for that one shot.