What % of population could become an IFBB Pro?

[jaejonna]

Large groin on 'che' destroyin profesional ...(no homo)

[kiwiol]

As I expected you didn't answer the question or chose to answer the simple question with a counter-question to avoid simply answering it, but its not a big deal. 

I did answer it. You asked if I think if Groink could easily become pro and I said that he has a better chance than most people here if he puts in the work, takes the requisite stack and what not.

[bigbobs]

meant...."wouldn't be easy"  posting from a mobile...ack

Brutal backpeddling from the original delusional statement

I did answer it. You asked if I think if Groink could easily become pro and I said that he has a better chance than most people here if he puts in the work, takes the requisite stack and what not.

Again you're not answering the question, but like I said its not a big deal.  I know what you're saying.

[G_Thang]

any man over 5'2" who is willing to take the drugs, train and eat the right way, and to live in a 3rd world country for a yr to get his card.  they just dont give them out in the states.  probably harder to get a pro bowlers card.   

[just_a_pilgrim]

Not many have the structure to become a pro, then you need to be able to build mass and have a body that can get ripped, how many have this?

Even at the elite level guys are missing things. Wolf is incredible but has holes in his physique, structures on some guys arn't the best but they can build a lot of mass and get ripped (Munzer).

I compare it to what i saw watching a tennis game live a few weeks ago. World no. 42 vs no 62. Even in a much more popular sport with much more money at stake no. 42 had consistentcy and decent shots but no big shots. no 62 had some big shots but mentally wasn't there and made too many mistakes. Federer is kind of like Ronnie, just an absolute freak among great players who look like they have it all but there was always one better.

[Yev33]

While I don't think it's realistic to say  that anyone can be a pro, but I also think that all you need is average genetics for putting on muscle. The most difficult thing about becoming a pro (politics excluded) is contest prep., thats why you see so many guys try time and time again. When you are a walking pharmacy and there are so many variables besides just food and training it can be pretty fucking difficult. Thats why there are so many pre contest gurus out there that make good money doing what they do. And yes we have all seen the guys that use and still look like shit, but do any of us know what their training is like, their diet, did they have at least 2-3 years of natural lifting under their belt or did they start using as soon as they picked up  a barbell. Just about anyone has the mental capacity to make an omlette but I guarantee you that there are morons out there that could manage to fuck it up.

[KevinP85]

Che claimed he was white, now he is black!!!?

Did you pull the opposite of an MJ??

[Mons Venus]

I'm a firm believer that genetics G4P play a tremendous role in BB...drugs are just the finishing touches in most cases. Bone structure, proportions, insertions, muscle bellies, etc. are not helped by drugs. Therefore, I truely believe that out of 10k gym rats perhaps only 1 or 2 would have what it takes to be an elite IFBB pro....take into account the commitment, discipline, etc that must exist with training, eating, sleeping, etc.....


I def. don't qualify due to my poor proportions, wide waste, narrow shldrs, long torso, etc...I could jump on a ton of drugs and come nowhere near the caliber of any pro.... I frequently see a couple of IFBB Pro's and it's always a cold reminder that no matter what, I can never look like them.


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[hipolito mejia]

do you find that the winners of state NPC shows that proceed to the nationals are the ones who don't have jobs?  Generally the only bodybuilders who dont need jobs are the ones who succeeded while having to work, and once they achieve a physique that allows them to earn money from it they can then focus on bb full-time, but only after beating hundreds of others along the way, almost all of whom also had full-time jobs.

For example when becoming a pro Nasser was in university full-time and worked and paid for his tuition and contest prep all by himself.

Would be funny to see if you guys would tell someone like hazbin or evilangel, great bodybuilders who didn't quite make pro, that large percentages of the population can become a pro if they simply took the drugs needed lol

Again, you dont need a "God given Talent "  To become a  pro BBer, With average genetics the right "supps" ,smart trainning, and the DEDICATION you can become PRO in about 10 years or so ...most of the people I know has done so...unless you have the genetics of say Bob Chick that took him like 25 or 30 years but hes not the rule in this case.

[che]

Che claimed he was white, now he is black!!!?

Did you pull the opposite of an MJ??

I'm not black.

[dov]

People give pros too much credit............Id say a LARGE percentage of the population could become pros......its just a matter of how far someone wants to take their "weightlifting hobby"........it takes a lot of time, money, and effort to become a pro bodybuilder............b ut for what??

All we see are the guys who took their hobby to the next level, thats all.

"Flexngsteele"...you have done a show or 2 if I'm not mistaking...as far as I know and suspect, you're a natty correct? With that being said, could you become an IFBB Pro by dedicating yourself to the "lifestyle", including drug use of course? Is it truely just a matter of choice to parley your "weightlifting hobby" into becoming a Pro?  Hypothetically you have a ton of $$, access to ALL drugs, food, sleep, training, etc...would you be a slam dunk Pro card BB?

This exact same scenario goes out to everyone who says it basically just comes down to a choice. "Che" and "Groink" are the only posters who have answered. Let's hear from rest of you delusionites!

[dov]

Soooo, for the guys who r sayin 85,95,99% of people could be Pro BB if only they choose to be.....each n every one of you could be an IFBB Pro if you wanted to, right? Let's hear you say it. I want just one of u to say that the ONLY reason ur not a pro bb is because you have chosen not to. Hahaha! Come on, let's hear you!

Good post....these twinks must be in the 5% of population that has no business trying to earn a pro card

They all say it simply comes down to just a choice to turn pro, yet NONE of them are willing to say they could be a pro if they truely desired to diet, train, use drugs, etc.....HAHA!  What a bunch of slack-jawwed f@ggots

[Palpatine Q]

Looks like someone forgot to switch accounts

[dov]

Looks like someone forgot to switch accounts

Nah, just my clever way of bumping my own thread ....STILL nobody has come forward to say they have simply chosen not to be a Pro bodybuilder...being that all it takes is willpower and drugs ....
I consider this a brutal pwning beyond epic proportions


I consider myself in the 99% category of NEVER being able to earn a pro card no matter how dedicated I was.

[ksa_triceps]

I'd say 5-10%. Others are flawed someway or another, including myself that is.

[dov]

I'd say 5-10%. Others are flawed someway or another, including myself that is.

Better....at least we're getting a little more realistic. Some of these fools ACTUALLY think that if they simply train, eat, use same gear as Darrem Charles that they'll look similar to him! How in the f%ck can ANYONE think like this?! I am fliped!

[Palpatine Q]

I'd say around that too....IMO if you had 100 guys in a room, about 10 have the genetics to develop a pro- caliber physique. which is a far cry from the "one in a million" that gets thrown around. You need VERY GOOD genetics, but not needle in a haystack genetics

[dov]

To sum it up, how can you unequivocally say everyone couldn't do it...if everyone doesn't even try to do it.

...I'm a little confused...sounds like a bit of backtracking to me.


Anyway, "Groink", you profess that you EASILY have the genetic makeup to be a slam-dunk Pro BB, correct? I'll have to take your word for it, because the only pics I've seen of you are a couple of close up isolated leg shots in bathroom, standing fully clothed long pants, baggy t-shirt in gym, and jeans/sweatshirt sitting on some baby mama's couch after night of porking her. Basically, all I've seen are a pair of big ass arms.

[Stavios]

Bahh, that's a load of bullshit..elite genetics, etc.  LOL..

if Kamali can turn pro, ANYONE can.

Kamali has great genetics when you look at his early pictures

[El Diablo Blanco]

Good post....these twinks must be in the 5% of population that has no business trying to earn a pro card

They all say it simply comes down to just a choice to turn pro, yet NONE of them are willing to say they could be a pro if they truely desired to diet, train, use drugs, etc.....HAHA!  What a bunch of slack-jawwed f@ggots

Epic gimmick.  How many freaking gimmicks do people have on here?

[Palpatine Q]

I'm not backtracking.....i've been saying that pros aren't "genetic gods" the whole time. I just put a number on it. IMO you go to any inner city park and you will find a couple of potential Flex Wheelers playing ball. He not some chosen God....Hes just a dude with good BGG's who took it as far as he could. The funny thing about Bodybuilding is it attracts people to it that really aren't cut out for it.

Half of Getbig probably looks like they never touched a weight in their life.

And BTW....just admit you fucked up switching accounts. "quoting myself".....please

[Mr Nobody]

I'm not backtracking.....i've been saying that pros aren't "genetic gods" the whole time. I just put a number on it. IMO you go to any inner city park and you will find a couple of potential Flex Wheelers playing ball. He not some chosen God....Hes just a dude with good BGG's who took it as far as he could. The funny thing about Bodybuilding is it attracts people to it that really aren't cut out for it.

Half of Getbig probably looks like they never touched a weight in their life.

And BTW....just admit you fucked up switching accounts. "quoting myself".....please

Most bodybuiders start for a reason of poor self image or to overcome a issue. Nice post.

[bigbobs]

I'd say around that too....IMO if you had 100 guys in a room, about 10 have the genetics to develop a pro- caliber physique. which is a far cry from the "one in a million" that gets thrown around. You need VERY GOOD genetics, but not needle in a haystack genetics

I can agree that 5-10% have the genetics to build a pro-caliber physique, but also depending on where you earn it, in what weight class, etc.  It's not as hard to get a pro card from winning Mr. Nigeria in the welterweight category for example, and much harder as a heavyweight at the USA's.  so when I was saying less than 1% I'm talking about the top 10 or so bodybuilders in the world, not just any pro.  If even 10% have the genetics to become a pro (as you say) then still less than 1% of those will be able become top tier (since much less than 10% of bodybuilders with a pro card get top 10 at an Olympia.  10% x 10% = 1%)

[dov]

Epic gimmick.  How many freaking gimmicks do people have on here?

Come on, you know I'm not a gimmick....I just wanted to show my earlier post again to make fun of everyone who say it's just a matter of choice for most people....no gimmick buddy!

[wes]

If it was easy,we`d all have pro caliber physiques.