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« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2014, 01:43:18 PM »


Redskins lose trademark, Harry Reid says team will be 'forced' to change name

 By Paul Bedard  | June 18, 2014 | 11:25 am

 

Topics: Sports NFL Redskins Washington Secrets Native Americans Patent Law
 


Photo - Washington Redskins fan 'Chief Zee' walks around the field before a game between the Minnesota Vikings and the Washington Redskins at FedExField on December 24, 2011 in Landover, Maryland. (Photo by Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)
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In what some see as the first step to forcing the Washington Redskins football team to change their name, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Wednesday cancelled six federal trademarks of the team name because it's “disparaging” to Native Americans.
   


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“Petitioners have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that a substantial composite of Native Americans found the term REDSKINS to be disparaging,” said the decision.

Fans, however, won’t see any immediate change — even if Daniel Snyder’s team eventually loses in court. That’s because all the order will do is eliminate the trademark the team has on merchandise.

The Redskins are expected to appeal.

But opponents of the name were quick to pounce, expressing hope that it will lead Snyder to reconsider his devotion to the historic name of the team.

“I hope this ruling brings us a step closer to that inevitable day when the name of the Washington football team will be changed,” plaintiff Amanda Blackhorse said, according to Politico. “The team's name is racist and derogatory.”

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid called the team name "racist." He went to the Senate floor just after the trademark decision was made and said the team will be forced to change the name.
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« Reply #101 on: July 02, 2014, 05:24:07 PM »

Patent office didn’t receive a single public complaint before stripping Redskins trademark
By Jim McElhatton-The Washington Times
Tuesday, July 1, 2014

The recent decision by an obscure administrative law board to cancel the Washington Redskins‘ trademark registrations came despite the fact the agency hadn’t received a single letter from a member of the public complaining about the team’s name, records show.

The Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, which is part of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office, ruled last month that the name was disparaging to American Indians. The team is appealing that decision.

Politicians, including President Obama, have waded into the team name controversy, with many saying the team should change its name. But despite widespread media attention and a legal fight that goes back more than a decade, the USPTO recently acknowledged there’s hardly been an avalanche of public complaints filed with the agency.

In fact, the agency doesn’t have any record of correspondence from the public about the Redskins‘ name — expressing sentiments one way or another — prior to the board’s June 18 ruling.

A Freedom of Information Act request from The Washington Times asking for any communications from Congress or the public produced just 13 pages of records.

Six of those pages were a handwritten, meandering letter from a man in Lubbock, Texas, whose position on the team name controversy isn’t clear. Another writer congratulated the appeals board after its decision but questioned whether the judges would “go after” the United Negro College Fund. Both letters were sent after the ruling.

In addition, there were a few pages of email correspondence between staffers for the USPTO and Delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton, the District of Columbia’s nonvoting member of Congress. Ms. Norton has been a vocal critic of the team name, but her staffers were mostly seeking background information on the case.

The board made its ruling last month based on a legal challenge from Amanda Blackhorse and four others, who petitioned the USPTO against the Redskins, calling the team name offensive to American Indians. After the ruling, she called the decision a “great victory for Native Americans and all Americans,” saying the team’s name was “racist and derogatory.”

Both sides in the widely publicized case introduced thousands of pages of evidence and testimony from experts. And the decision hinged, in part, on the testimony of linguistics experts.

The Redskins declined to comment through an attorney Monday, but an attorney for Ms. Blackhorse said the paucity of public input isn’t entirely unexpected despite the intense media coverage.

“There are regimented procedures in which the USPTO makes its decisions, and there is no mechanism for input from the general public,” attorney Jesse A. Witten wrote in an email. “This is not at all like the notice and comment period that accompanies a regulatory rule making.”

Rebecca Tushnet, a law professor at Georgetown University, said the patent office isn’t like the Federal Trade Commission or Food and Drug Administration, where there can be a public comment procedure for individual cases.

“If you don’t have a particular stake there’s no obvious point at which your input can be given,” she said. “I’m sure that doesn’t stop people from sending in correspondence, but I honestly wouldn’t know how to go about getting it read in an individual case.”

The USPTO did not respond to phone calls Monday.

The trademark appeals board based its ruling on part of the law that says a trademark can be canceled if it is deemed disparaging. In the case of the Redskins, the board said the drop in the use of the word in the last century showed it was becoming a slur. The board also pointed to research that found at least 30 percent of American Indians surveyed found the name offensive.

The agency’s decision doesn’t mean the Redskins are barred from using the team name, but it does make it harder for them to assert their brand against potential copycats.

The same appeals board was overruled on appeal in 2003 after ruling against the Redskins in a similar case. Bob Raskopf, the team’s trademark attorney, said in a statement after the most recent ruling that he expects the same outcome.

“This case is no different from the earlier case, where the board canceled the Redskins‘ trademark registrations and where a federal-district court disagreed and reversed the board,” he said.

Even if the public hasn’t been very vocal with the agency, politicians have been quick to let the media and Redskins know where they stand.

Last fall, Mr. Obama said he would think about changing the name if he were team owner Dan Snyder.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, has vowed not to attend any games until the team changes its name.

And Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican, said last week at an Associated Press Sports Editors meeting that while he doesn’t think Mr. Snyder should be forced to drop the Redskins‘ name, he’d “probably” change the team name nonetheless.

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« Reply #102 on: July 14, 2014, 02:41:36 PM »

I see our independent AG is once again carrying the President's water. 

Eric Holder: Redskins name 'offensive,' should be changed
Posted: Mon Jul. 14, 2014

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder says that the Washington Redskins' name 'ought to be changed' and that it's 'an offensive name,' reports TMZ. Holder made the comments in an appearance on ABC News.

More from Holder:

"The Redskins, that organization is a great one. It's a team with a storied history that has huge amounts of support in Washington, D.C., and in the 21st century they could increase their fan base, increase their level of support, if they did something that from my perspective that is so obviously right."

Holder is not the first government official to weigh in on the controversial name. Most prominently, President Barack Obama said last year that if he owned the team, he'd consider changing the name.

In May, 50 senators signed a letter to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell urging him to change the name, a letter that was endorsed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

Redskins owner Dan Snyder has repeatedly stated he will not change the team's name, and recently NBC announcer Al Michaels said Snyder told him he'll change the name 'over my dead body.'

The Redskins have held that the team name honors Native Americans, while critics allege that the name is racist and offensive toward Native Americans.

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« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2014, 03:09:57 PM »

I just love it when these liberal uppity black and white jackasses speak for what should be "offensive" to Native Americans. You'd think these bureaucrats would have more important things to do somewhere?
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« Reply #104 on: July 16, 2014, 07:52:27 AM »

Redskins lose trademark, Harry Reid says team will be 'forced' to change name

 By Paul Bedard  | June 18, 2014 | 11:25 am

 

Topics: Sports NFL Redskins Washington Secrets Native Americans Patent Law
 


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In what some see as the first step to forcing the Washington Redskins football team to change their name, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Wednesday cancelled six federal trademarks of the team name because it's “disparaging” to Native Americans.
  


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“Petitioners have shown by a preponderance of the evidence that a substantial composite of Native Americans found the term REDSKINS to be disparaging,” said the decision.

Fans, however, won’t see any immediate change — even if Daniel Snyder’s team eventually loses in court. That’s because all the order will do is eliminate the trademark the team has on merchandise.

The Redskins are expected to appeal.

But opponents of the name were quick to pounce, expressing hope that it will lead Snyder to reconsider his devotion to the historic name of the team.

“I hope this ruling brings us a step closer to that inevitable day when the name of the Washington football team will be changed,” plaintiff Amanda Blackhorse said, according to Politico. “The team's name is racist and derogatory.”

Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid called the team name "racist." He went to the Senate floor just after the trademark decision was made and said the team will be forced to change the name.


From what I've heard, the patent office did this to the Redskins and Snyder once before in 1999, only to lose in an appeals court in 2003.

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« Reply #105 on: July 30, 2014, 02:23:04 PM »

Hillary Clinton: Redskins name ‘insensitive’
By JONATHAN TOPAZ | 7/30/14

Hillary Clinton says the Washington Redskins need a name change.

“I think it’s insensitive and I think that there’s no reason for it to continue as the name of a team in our nation’s capital,” Clinton said during an interview on Tuesday with Jorge Ramos, who asked her if she thought the name was a “racial slur.”

“I would love to see the owners think hard about what they could substitute,” she added.

Last month, the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office on Wednesday canceled six federal trademarks of the team name because it was found to be “disparaging” to Native Americans. The decision has put more pressure on team owner Daniel Snyder — who has vowed he won’t change the name — to move on the issue.

Clinton is the latest political figure to suggest the D.C.-area team change its name. In May, 50 senators — 48 Democrats and two independents — wrote NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to urge the league to change the name. “The N.F.L. can no longer ignore this and perpetuate the use of this name as anything but what it is: a racial slur,” the letter read. The letter was not circulated among Republicans.

The NFL shot down the letter later that day, saying the team wants to portray a “strong, positive and respectful image” with the name.

Last October, President Barack Obama said the nickname offends “a sizable group of people” and that if he were the owner, he would “think about changing it.” And earlier this month, Attorney General Eric Holder said he thought the name should be dropped, calling it “offensive.”

When Ramos asked Clinton if she had any suggestions for a new name, the potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate laughed and said she hadn’t thought of any alternatives.

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« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2014, 06:29:25 PM »

Daniel Snyder defends 'Redskins'
August 5, 2014
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Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that he is adamant he doesn't have to bow to pressure to change his team's nickname because it's not disparaging to Native Americans but instead a term of honor and respect.

Snyder mentioned William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, the team's first coach whom the Redskins were named after to honor his "Native American heritage," and Walter "Blackie" Wetzel, a former president of the National Congress of American Indians and chairman of the Blackfeet Nation, who helped design and approve the team's logo as examples of the positive history of the nickname.

"It's just historical truths, and I'd like them to understand, as I think most do, that the name really means honor, respect," Snyder told ESPN's John Barr.

"We sing 'Hail to the Redskins.' We don't say hurt anybody. We say 'Hail to the Redskins. Braves on the warpath. Fight for old D.C.' We only sing it when we score touchdowns.

"That's the problem because last season we didn't sing it quite enough as we would've liked to," Snyder said with a laugh.

Barr also asked Snyder, what is a Redskin?

"A Redskin is a football player. A Redskin is our fans. The Washington Redskins fan base represents honor, represents respect, represents pride. Hopefully winning," Snyder said. "And, and, it, it's a positive. Taken out of context, you can take things out of context all over the place. But in this particular case, it is what it is. It's very obvious."

In June, the United States Patent and Trademark Office canceled the team's trademarks in a 2-1 ruling on the basis they are "disparaging to Native Americans." The team has appealed the ruling and has said it is confident it will be overturned.

Several politicians have called on Snyder to change the team's name, including Attorney General Eric Holder, Sen. Harry Reid and former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. President Barack Obama said last year that if he owned the Redskins, "I'd think about changing [the name]."

On Tuesday, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said on his Facebook page that it is "probably time" for the Redskins to change the nickname. The team plays in Landover, Maryland, at FedEx Field.

The Democratic governor, who is mulling running for president, posted: "I was asked earlier today and answered that I do believe it is probably time for the Washington Redskins to change their team name.''

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has not pressured Snyder to change the name and has said he stands by his stance that the name honors Native Americans.

Snyder's full interview will air in an "Outside the Lines" special Sept. 2 on ESPN2 at 8 p.m. ET.

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« Reply #108 on: August 07, 2014, 01:16:02 PM »

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Senator wants Indians name change
Updated: August 7, 2014
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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- It's time for the Cleveland Indians to drop their name and Chief Wahoo mascot, an Ohio state senator says.

Eric Kearney, a Democrat from Cincinnati, introduced a resolution Wednesday that would encourage the baseball team to adopt a new name and mascot, citing racial insensitivity. He also sent a letter to Indians owner Lawrence Dolan urging a change.


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Ohio state senator Eric Kearney wants the Cleveland Indians to change their name and the Chief Wahoo mascot.
With the Indians in the midst of a four-game series with Cincinnati, Kearney said it's the right time to introduce the resolution. The Legislature is on summer break.

American Indians and others have protested the use of the logo for years at the team's annual home opener, complaining that the mascot mocks them and their heritage. It's part of a national debate over the use of Indian nicknames in sports that has regained momentum in recent months, particularly the campaign to get the NFL's Washington Redskins to change their name. In June, a federal trademark board ruled the Redskins' trademarks protections should be canceled because the team name is disparaging to Native Americans.

At an unrelated Thursday news conference, Indians President Mark Shapiro said the Chief Wahoo mascot "represents the heritage of the team and the ballpark" and will remain in place. He added that the team will continue to build and promote the use of the block "C."

Kearney, who said he's a big baseball fan, didn't expect major change right away but said Thursday he's "asking for a discussion to occur." Retiring the Indians' name and mascot would show that much has changed in the 100 years since the name was adopted, he said.

Kearney is the former running mate of Ohio Democratic gubernatorial candidate Ed FitzGerald. He withdrew from the ticket in December amid questions about tax liens.

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« Reply #109 on: August 08, 2014, 04:55:30 PM »

Pat Sajak is Offended by a Pro Sports Team Name and it’s Not the Redskins
August 8, 2014 By Matthew Burke

TV game show host Pat Sajak of Wheel of Fortune fame weighed in on the Democrat Party’s obsession with the Washington “Redskins” team name suddently being racist after decades of not being offensive.
 
Thursday on Twitter, Sajak mocked the left’s faux outrage, perhaps even taking a stab at Democrat Senator Harry Reid, by tweeting that he was offended by the NHL team the Ottawa Senators.

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A nation's capital should not have a team with such an offensive nickname. Please, NHL, no more Ottawa Senators.
4:19 AM - 7 Aug 2014

Sajak wrote on his Twitter account,  “A nation’s capital should not have a team with such an offensive nickname. Please NHL, no more Ottawa Senators.”
On July 30, Sajak took a shot at Obama Secretary of State John Kerry:

The man knows his baseball. The ’62 Mets finished with a win-loss record of 40-120.

In June, I asked if Harry Reid will tell this 100% Navajo Indian High School that their “Redskins” mascot is racist? We’re still waiting for the answer.

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« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2014, 04:18:25 PM »

Mike Carey said no to Redskins
Updated: August 21, 2014
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A former NFL referee told The Washington Post that he requested not to work home or away games for the Washington Redskins due to the team's controversial nickname.

Mike Carey, who retired after the 2013 season following 24 years in the league, says he requested off Washington's games beginning with the 2006 season because it became clear to him that "something disrespectful" was happening and being on the field "probably (was) not the best thing for me."

"Human beings take social stances," Carey, the first African-American referee to work a Super Bowl, told the newspaper. "And if you're respectful of all human beings, you have to decide what you're going to do and why you're going to do it.

"In America we've learned that respect is the most important thing that you have. I learned it from my parents, my schools, from my faith. And when you learn there's something that might not be as respectful as you like, when you come to terms with it, you have to do something about it."

"I know that if a team had a derogatory name for African-Americans, I would help those who helped extinguish that name. I have quite a few friends who are Native Americans. And even if I didn't have Native American friends, the name of the team is disrespectful."

According to the Post's research, Carey didn't work any Redskins games -- preseason, regular season or playoffs -- after Week 1 of the 2006 season.

"The league respectfully honored my request not to officiate Washington," he said.

Carey said he made the request with the person in the league office who handles officiating assignments, never going through NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

"When they were making assignments, I said I'd like to be excluded from those assignments," Carey told the Post.


In America we've learned that respect is the most important thing that you have. I learned it from my parents, my schools, from my faith. And when you learn there's something that might not be as respectful as you like, when you come to terms with it, you have to do something about it.

-- Ex-referee Mike Carey,
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At the time, Carey said that he asked that the matter be kept private. He added that he wasn't sure if Goodell, Redskins owner Daniel Snyder or any other members of Washington's team knew of his preference.

Contacted by the Post, neither an NFL official nor the team said they were informed of Carey's request. The official noted that scheduling for officiating crews works around "many factors."

The Post, citing research done on profootballreference.com, reported that Carey officiated a total of seven games involving the Redskins since 1999 -- when official logs were first kept. His last game involving the team was in the 2006 playoffs, when he ejected Sean Taylor for spitting in the face of a Tampa Bay Buccaneers player during a Washington victory.

Carey said no one knew about his desire not to work Redskins games after that aside from his family, his work crew and the person in the league office who did the scheduling.

"There was no reason to tell anyone," he told the Post. "I made sure I didn't have anybody else involved."

The Redskins nickname, seen by some as disparaging to Native Americans, has been a source of controversy for some time while escalating in recent months.

Snyder told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" earlier this month that he is adamant he doesn't have to bow to pressure to change the nickname, insisting it's a term of honor and respect.

Carey disagrees -- and is hopeful Snyder will see it his way one day, too.

"I think sometimes evolution is slow for some people," he said. "But where else in America do you see that, though, the refusal to change? From Stanford on down, most everybody has changed from a derogatory name to one that is acceptable."

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« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2014, 04:19:26 PM »

Will Mike Ditka be suspended by ESPN? Rush Limbaugh thinks so
By Cindy Boren August 21, 2014

Hall of Famer Mike Ditka couldn’t have been clearer in expressing his support for the Washington Redskins’ nickname and one fellow conservative thinks he may pay a price for it.

Rush Limbaugh mused that Ditka, who said the debate was manufactured by “all the political correct idiots in America,” might be suspended from his broadcasting job by ESPN for his remarks.

“I think it’s very classic the way the media does this,” he said on “The Rush Limbaugh Show.” “They present the story as though everybody agrees with them and everybody agrees this has gotta go. Out of nowhere! This is just the agents of intolerance on the march demanding that everybody agree with them. It’s the same thing and the same myth that’s propelling the Ferguson story. There’s a myth here that this nation is fed up with the name Washington Redskins.

“There’s a myth that everybody wants it changed. There is a myth that numbers, millions of people are routinely/profoundly offended by it. None of that’s true. Again, we’re dealing with a politically correct minority intent on having their way, and Ditka is just speaking up for people who say, “What the hell is this? There’s no real issue here! Nobody’s really upset. There’s more important stuff going on. Leave it alone! Hope the owner hangs in there.”

“Anyway, he works at ESPN, but I don’t know… I mean once this gets out, he’s at least gotta be suspended.”

Ditka’s comments came shortly after Tony Dungy, of NBC’s top-rated “Sunday Night Football,” and Phil Simms of CBS said they would no longer use the nickname. In an interview with Mike Richman of RedskinsHistorian.com, he said:

“What’s all the stink over the Redskin name?” Ditka said. “It’s so much [expletive] it’s incredible. We’re going to let the liberals of the world run this world. It was said out of reverence, out of pride to the American Indian. Even though it was called a Redskin, what are you going to call them, a Proudskin? This is so stupid it’s appalling, and I hope that owner keeps fighting for it and never changes it, because the Redskins are part of an American football history, and it should never be anything but the Washington Redskins. That’s the way it is.


“Its been the name of the team since the beginning of football. It has nothing to do with something that happened lately, or something that somebody dreamed up. This was the name, period. Leave it alone. These people are silly — asinine, actually, in my opinion.”

Richman theorized that the debate is coming from outside the D.C. area.

“It’s all the political correct idiots in America, that’s all it is,” Ditka said. “It’s got nothing to do with anything else. We’re going to change something because we can. Hey listen, I went through it in the 60s, too. I mean, come on. Everybody lined up, did this. It’s fine to protest. That’s your right, if you don’t like it, protest. You have a right to do that, but to change the name, that’s ridiculous. Change the Constitution — we’ve got people trying to do that, too, and they’re doing a pretty good job.”

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Don`t those lazy fucks have something more important to work on for fucks sake.
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« Reply #113 on: August 22, 2014, 06:23:03 PM »

The Minnesota Vikings should change their name immediately. Congress needs to get involved.

Both the name and Mascot imply that individuals of Nordic descent are violent barbarians.

We are a nation of immigrants.  America needs to stop appeasing the racists in the Tea Party. Americans must not condone bigotry or intolerance against anyone, anywhere, period.
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« Reply #114 on: August 22, 2014, 07:41:53 PM »

LOL @ Democrat from Cincinnati

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« Reply #115 on: September 02, 2014, 05:38:20 PM »

NFL player poll: Redskins name OK
Updated: September 2, 2014
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A majority of NFL players support the Washington Redskins nickname, according to a non-scientific survey conducted by NFL Nation reporters throughout the offseason and training camp.

Players were asked a simple question: "Yes or no: Do the Redskins need to change their name?" Of 286 players polled, 167 -- 58 percent -- said the Redskins should not change their name, with 119 players -- 42 percent -- saying they should find a new nickname.

NFL Nation polled 51 Redskins players in a separate survey, with 26 (51 percent) saying they should keep the nickname and one saying it should be changed. Twenty-four players said they didn't want to answer -- a handful saying it was up to owner Dan Snyder or team president Bruce Allen.

While the Redskins' public relations department was aware of the poll, no player said he was not allowed to answer or told what he should say. Some players laughed and walked away when asked the question, not wanting any attachment to the debate.

Not all did, of course.

"I'm not into that PC [politically correct] stuff," one player said.

And one Redskins player, who answered neither yes or no, called the issue too complicated and said he sees both sides of the issue, although he talked more about the benefits of keeping the name.

ESPN asked NFL players whether Washington should change its nickname. A majority (58 percent) said it should not be changed.
"It helps keep them relevant," the player said of the nickname. "There are so many issues on so many reservations that are not forgotten. ... I've seen all the numbers, but to me it's a small issue and we should be looking at other big social issues."

An "Outside the Lines" poll of 1,019 Americans conducted by Langer Research found that 71 percent favor keeping the nickname.

One player from another team called Redskins a "positive name." He said they were named after fierce warriors, giving pride to their culture.

Jets outside linebacker Jason Babin was OK with keeping the name as well, saying, "We live in a society that is way too concerned with the PC police."

However, Chicago tight end Martellus Bennett said the nickname should be changed. He echoed the thoughts of another NFL player likening it to the N-word. The other player felt that if the nickname was changed, "You're giving [offensive] words too much power, and that's a problem today. We give words too much power in our age of trying to be so PC."

Bennett offered the flip side, but did not seem optimistic the nickname would be changed.

"It's like how everyone is talking about eliminating the N-word, penalizing people for using that word or the way we are in the work space, where we're challenging everybody else to grow," Bennett said. "The difference here is with a team, there's a whole lot of money they have to spend to change jerseys, change everything else. They don't want to have to go through all that because of all the money it would cost to do so. It's all politics and money, man."

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« Reply #116 on: September 02, 2014, 07:15:25 PM »

totally political story.   colin had a big piece on it today.

conservatives care a great deal.  liberals do not.  71% of NFL viewers don't care. 

this is a political issue, used by both sides to rally their donors and supporters.  politicians attach themselves to all sorts of things that have nothing to do with politics, that the people involved aren't as concerned about.  both parties doing it.
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« Reply #117 on: September 05, 2014, 06:22:33 PM »

Redskins merchandising dips sharply
Updated: September 5, 2014
By Darren Rovell | ESPN.com

Is the controversy over the Washington Redskins' name starting to have an impact at retail?

No NFL team has seen a sharper drop in year-over-year merchandise sales in the past year than the Redskins. That's according to data from market tracking firm SportsOneSource.

Through August, Redskins sales were down 43.8 percent, the firm's numbers show, beating out slides from other teams that failed to make the playoffs last year, including the Ravens (34.5 percent), Texans (32.8 percent), Giants (25.5 percent), Vikings (25.1 percent) and Falcons (20.1 percent).

But how much the Redskins really have fallen and what exactly that can be attributed to is debatable.

Data from NFLShop.com, the league's official store, shows that the Redskins were the 12th-most-popular team in sales last year and are at the same position this year. And two retailers told ESPN.com that they believe almost the entire slide is due to coming off a 3-13 season and quarterback Robert Griffin III falling out of prominence.

In the 2012-13 season, Griffin sold more jerseys in a season that anyone in NFL history. From April through August of this year, he didn't even make the list of the league's 25 best-selling jerseys.

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« Reply #118 on: September 05, 2014, 06:29:17 PM »

Redskins merchandising dips sharply
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Is the controversy over the Washington Redskins' name starting to have an impact at retail?

Could just be RG3 totally blows this year.   All hope is gone in that city, and Cousins ain't great, but probably should be starting.  I don't care what you call them... if they're undefeated in the pre-season and predicted to go 13-3, their shit is selling.  Tough to attribute the stinky sales entirely to name issues, when this year's major bounceback ended up with RG3 completely impotent.

Some folks will say "but they stunk last year, too!" but there was hope last year.   Last year, it was "RG3 is back too soon, let's take the last month off, heal, and be fresh for 2014".   This year it's make or break, and they're break so far, in a big way.
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« Reply #119 on: September 05, 2014, 06:33:20 PM »

Could just be RG3 totally blows this year.   All hope is gone in that city, and Cousins ain't great, but probably should be starting.  I don't care what you call them... if they're undefeated in the pre-season and predicted to go 13-3, their shit is selling.  Tough to attribute the stinky sales entirely to name issues, when this year's major bounceback ended up with RG3 completely impotent.

Some folks will say "but they stunk last year, too!" but there was hope last year.   Last year, it was "RG3 is back too soon, let's take the last month off, heal, and be fresh for 2014".   This year it's make or break, and they're break so far, in a big way.

Cousins should be starting?  lol 
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« Reply #120 on: September 05, 2014, 07:25:51 PM »

Cousins should be starting?  lol 

cousins isn't great, but he's probably at the level of the lowest 1/3 of starters in the NFL. 

RG3 is worse than Cousins.... when you consider RG3 has all the reps, he has the 2 years of running things, minue the 5 games or whatever last year...

You give Cousins those reps and he's WAY better than RG3.    I mean, I love watching RG3 play.  I watchever every Wash game I could the last 2 years.  he's sensational when he's on.  But it's probably time to cut losses, trade him away for picks... See what cousins can do for 14 games as the starter... and if you're still 3-13 at the end of the year, then you go draft mariotti or winston and try from scratch.

otherwise, you're trying to trade RG3 at the END of the season, worth way less...
and you don't know if cousins can play, you've never given him an actual season...
and you don't know if you should draft a QB or not.   Just find out now.  RG3 had his chance.
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« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2014, 04:40:04 PM »

cousins isn't great, but he's probably at the level of the lowest 1/3 of starters in the NFL. 

RG3 is worse than Cousins.... when you consider RG3 has all the reps, he has the 2 years of running things, minue the 5 games or whatever last year...

You give Cousins those reps and he's WAY better than RG3.    I mean, I love watching RG3 play.  I watchever every Wash game I could the last 2 years.  he's sensational when he's on.  But it's probably time to cut losses, trade him away for picks... See what cousins can do for 14 games as the starter... and if you're still 3-13 at the end of the year, then you go draft mariotti or winston and try from scratch.

otherwise, you're trying to trade RG3 at the END of the season, worth way less...
and you don't know if cousins can play, you've never given him an actual season...
and you don't know if you should draft a QB or not.   Just find out now.  RG3 had his chance.

Bwahahaha!  So your BS extends to sports too?  lol . . . .  Smiley
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« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2014, 04:58:32 PM »

Bwahahaha!  So your BS extends to sports too?  lol . . . .  Smiley

this off-season, my pediction here will probably come true too... they'll be all "which QB to keep" and tired of RG3, not sure if they should use their really awesome draft pick on a QB, or wait to see what cousins can do.  RG3 was horrible yesterday. 

Wash's only hope is that they LET Rg3 play like a fool, let him get injured again, and cut him with the fans approval.   get cousins starting this year by game 7 or 8 when it gets cold and RG's knee can't take the beating under 20 degrees.
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« Reply #123 on: September 08, 2014, 05:01:43 PM »

this off-season, my pediction here will probably come true too... they'll be all "which QB to keep" and tired of RG3, not sure if they should use their really awesome draft pick on a QB, or wait to see what cousins can do.  RG3 was horrible yesterday. 

Wash's only hope is that they LET Rg3 play like a fool, let him get injured again, and cut him with the fans approval.   get cousins starting this year by game 7 or 8 when it gets cold and RG's knee can't take the beating under 20 degrees.

Dude just stop it already. 
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