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ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« on: March 12, 2010, 06:55:55 AM »
The Health Care Reform Bill: Welcome To The Biggest Tax Increase In U.S. History
PrintMichael Snyder | Mar. 12, 2010, 6:26 AM | 678 |  13
Tags: Health Care Reform, Debt, U.S. Government


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Will the health care reform bill that the Democrats are trying to figure out a way to ram through Congress end up being the biggest tax increase in U.S. history?  Unfortunately, a close reading of the bill leads to the inescapable conclusion that it will be.  You see, the crafters of this legislation were smart.  They realized that if they included one huge tax increase in the health care bill it would make headlines all over the country, so they chopped up the taxes into a bunch of smaller pieces in order to make them easier to swallow.  In fact, one review of the Senate version of the health care bill identified at least 19 tax increases.  When you put all of the tax increases together they add up to the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States.  Considering the fact that the U.S. economy is already on the verge of economic collapse, the last thing that the American people need is a massive tax increase.  But that is exactly what they are about to get.

So let's take a closer look at some of these taxes....

*In Section 5000(A) of the Senate version of the bill (which can be found here), there is a requirement for all Americans to purchase health insurance. Those who do not obtain health coverage will be hit with an annual tax penalty of $750.

*Barack Obama is trying to sneak a large Medicare tax increase for wealthy Americans into the final version of the health care bill.  Under Obama's proposal, individuals who earn more than $200,000 and couples who earn over $250,000 would pay an additional 2.9% surtax on unearned income from interest, dividends, annuities, royalties and rents. Up until now, employers and employees have each contributed 1.45% of each paycheck to Medicare.  But if Obama's proposal makes it into the final bill, wealthy Americans will see their Medicare taxes absolutely skyrocket.

*In Section 9008 of the Senate version of the health care bill,  a $2.3 billion excise tax would be imposed on the pharmaceutical industry.  This tax would not be based on income.  It would solely be based on market share.  So even if a company was losing hundreds of millions of dollars it would still have to pay.

*Section 9009 of the Senate version of the health care bill imposes an "annual fee" on medical device manufacturers and importers.  Once again, this $2 billion "excise tax" would be based on market share and not on income.

*Section 9010 of the Senate version of the health care bill would also impose an "annual fee" on health insurance providers.  This $6.7 billion tax would also be allocated based on market share.

So how much of these new taxes on health insurance companies, drugmakers and medical device manufacturers do you think will be passed on to consumers?

Anyone want to take a guess?

Just because a particular tax increase is not directed at you does not mean that it won't take money out of your pocket.

Let's look at some more (yes, there are more) of the tax increases....

*Section 9001 of the Senate version of the health care bill contains an excise tax on "Cadillac" health plans.  In other words, if you have provided your family with the very best in health coverage you get to be taxed extra.  This tax is particularly harsh.  Section 9001 imposes a 40 percent tax on the portion of insurance premiums exceeding $8,500 a year for individuals and $23,000 a year for family plans.  In order to hide the tax, it will be imposed on the health insurance companies who issue the policies.  But do you think that they will not pass that cost on to their customers?

So now the American people will be highly penalized for getting really good health care plans.

*Section 9017 of the Senate version of the health care bill imposes an excise tax on elective cosmetic medical procedures.  Any voluntary cosmetic procedures will now be subjected to a 5 percent tax.  All of those boob jobs are about to get a lot more expensive.

*The House version of the health care bill would impose a 5.4 percent income tax increase on individuals making more than $500,000 and on couples making more than $1 million.

So if you are living the American Dream you are about to pay a lot more for it if the House version of the health care bill gets adopted.

Let's break this down a little bit.

Currently, the top income tax rate in the United States is 35 percent.

If existing Bush tax cuts expire in 2011 as Barack Obama wants them to, the top tax rate will go back up to 39.6 percent.

But this new "health care tax" would jack things up even higher.

Another 5.4 percent would take the highest tax rate in America to 45 percent.  That is before any state, local or property taxes are even paid.

Pretty soon it won't even be worth it to work hard in America anymore.

But that is not the end of the tax increases.

A PricewaterhouseCoopers’ analysis for America’s Health Insurance Plans found that family health insurance premiums would be approximately $4,000 a year higher if the health care reform bill is passed.

Can you afford to pay over $300 a month more for health insurance for your family?

Are you starting to get the idea?

This health care reform bill will be an absolute financial disaster for America.  But considering the fact that the Senate version of the bill is 2409 pages long, hardly anyone will ever take the time to read the whole thing.

And yes, the Democrats are likely to tweak things a little more as they try to figure out how to sneak a final version through, but there is now one thing that seems virtually certain.

This is going to be the biggest tax increase in U.S. history.

Isn't that exciting?

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 08:19:23 AM »
"Can you afford to pay over $300 a month more for health insurance for your family?"

I'm paying almost double that now.  :(

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 08:22:35 AM »
"Can you afford to pay over $300 a month more for health insurance for your family?"

I'm paying almost double that now.  :(

240 - it said PAY MORE! 

Even Dick Durbin admitted that ObamaCare is going to cause premiums to go much higher almost immediately, just as obama admitted cap and trade will cause elctricity to skyrocket. 

Wake up dude, this is a complete disaster of biblical measure. 

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 08:29:36 AM »
....... of biblical measure. 
this should be worth watching then.  Noah and the Flood ?  Sodom and Gommorah ?  the Resurrection ?  wow...where's my popcorn; this i gotta see.
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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 08:31:09 AM »
this should be worth watching then.  Noah and the Flood ?  Sodom and Gommorah ?  the Resurrection ?  wow...where's my popcorn; this i gotta see.

It's nice to see you think the destruction of America as you know it is a joke, glad your got to vote ::)
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 08:43:01 AM »
It's nice to see you think the destruction of America as you know it is a joke, glad your got to vote ::)

People like Chad really dont give a shit.   

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 08:47:40 AM »
People like Chad really dont give a shit.   

They will when they are living in their government issue shit box freezing their ass off because heating it cost $700 a month. Yes they will all be sitting their with a WTF look on their face wondering how did this happen.
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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 08:58:36 AM »
They will when they are living in their government issue shit box freezing their ass off because heating it cost $700 a month. Yes they will all be sitting their with a WTF look on their face wondering how did this happen.

No they wont, they will blame Bush, Palin, and Reagan while they lick dog food off of their Obama plates they bought after the election. 

Suckers. 

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 09:09:43 AM »
Taxes that will pay off a deficit 333.  This will cut it by 118 billion over 10 years. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 09:11:45 AM »
Taxes that will pay off a deficit 333.  This will cut it by 118 billion over 10 years. 

I already blew that shell game out of the water ten times KC. 

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2010, 09:12:17 AM »
Taxes that will pay off a deficit 333.  This will cut it by 118 billion over 10 years. 

Do we really have to go through this again? I realize shiney objects distract you but common.
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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2010, 09:37:25 AM »
1. what will the monthly obama bill be for my family?

2. Will it be less than the 500 I'm paying now?

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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 09:40:44 AM »
1. what will the monthly obama bill be for my family?

2. Will it be less than the 500 I'm paying now?

Holy Dog Shit 240 - even Durbin said your costs are going up! 


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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 09:49:05 AM »
will they go up above 500?

why can't either side just give me some solid numebrs here?

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 09:55:08 AM »
I already blew that shell game out of the water ten times KC. 

What shell?  That a tax increase reduces the deficit?  How exactly can you 'blow that out of the water'? 
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 09:55:57 AM »
Largest Tax Increase in US History was when Reagan raised the payroll tax (and then borrowed the money that should have gone to social security to pay the costs of his reduced taxes on the wealthy and corporations).    You see there is a precedent for the poor and middle class bailing out the wealthy and the corporate classes.   

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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2010, 09:56:08 AM »
will they go up above 500?

why can't either side just give me some solid numebrs here?

Because no one knows 240!  all we know is that is is going to skyrocket.  Even Durbin is admitting it.  What more do you need 240?    

ObamaCare = MengeleCare and those who support it should be anally raped with a plunger in a back ally 50x over.  

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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2010, 09:57:13 AM »
Largest Tax Increase in US History was when Reagan raised the payroll tax (and then borrowed the money that should have gone to social security to pay the costs of his reduced taxes on the wealthy and corporations).    You see there is a precedent for the poor and middle class bailing out the wealthy and the corporate classes.   

Moron.  Who controlled the congress? 


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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2010, 09:58:50 AM »
What shell?  That a tax increase reduces the deficit?  How exactly can you 'blow that out of the water'? 

Watch this and wake the hell up KC - all but the most brain dead morons believe Obama anymore.

Sliced and diced.   Obama = owned & clueless beyond words. 






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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 10:00:49 AM »
Because no one knows 240!  all we know is that is is going to skyrocket.  Even Durbin is admitting it.  What more do you need 240?    

ObamaCare = MengeleCare and those who support it should be anally raped with a plunger in a back ally 50x over.  

Isn't it kind of disrespectful how you try to nazify everything with this admin?  Quite disrespectful to the millions of people who lost their lives due to a monster don't you think?  You can think obama is many things but to continue such gross disregard for history and facts and place such titles belittles not only yourself but also the victims.  
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2010, 10:02:58 AM »
Isn't it kind of disrespectful how you try to nazify everything with this admin?  Quite disrespectful to the millions of people who lost their lives due to a monster don't you think?  You can think obama is many things but to continue such gross disregard for history and facts and place such titles belittles not only yourself but also the victims.  

Fine - how about "MAObamaCare"?

   

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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2010, 10:03:55 AM »
Watch this and wake the hell up KC - all but the most brain dead morons believe Obama anymore.

Sliced and diced.   Obama = owned & clueless beyond words. 







So you're saying the CBO is wrong?  Besides a video clip what basis do you have for this?  Have you looked at the numbers yourself and done the math or have you just brought into the sounds bites?  

You see 333 the CBO is the neutral party in this, they have the facts and the numbers and that is their estimate.  They aren't left or right.  I will take their opinion on these matters over a politician.  
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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2010, 10:04:41 AM »
Fine - how about "MAObamaCare"?

   

Keep showing your lack of sanity 333.  It only makes the valid points you make hold even less weight. 
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Re: ObamaCare = "Largest Tax increase in American History"
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2010, 10:43:16 AM »
Moron.  Who controlled the congress? 



Noooo!  It's those pesky facts again.   :)

I knew Obama was lying about not raising taxes. 

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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2010, 11:09:44 AM »
So you're saying the CBO is wrong?  Besides a video clip what basis do you have for this?  Have you looked at the numbers yourself and done the math or have you just brought into the sounds bites?  

You see 333 the CBO is the neutral party in this, they have the facts and the numbers and that is their estimate.  They aren't left or right.  I will take their opinion on these matters over a politician.  

Watch the video again.  CBO goes based on what is in front of them.  What MAObama put in front on them was a 10 year bill including 4 years of taxs and 6 years of benes. 

However, when its ten years of taxes and ten years of spending this bill is a disaster.