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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2010, 10:19:00 PM »
Ozmo I know you know better?

What a dumb argument, Galileo was one man out of thousands of other astronomers claiming we weren't the center of the Universe.  That didn't make his argument any less valid.

With all due respect.

REad the books 1421 and 1434.  Gallileo was battling the church NOT other astronomers.  

Also, just because you can find instances were a small percentage of people were right, doesn't mean these people are.  My point with quoting the .4% was to put the impact of "1000" in its proper perspective.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2010, 10:20:53 PM »
Proof you are as dumb as everyone on Getbig says you are.  

Exhibit A:

This coming from someone living in the heart of the Baltimore ghetto

For the 9 millionth time..  I live in the suburbs.  I work in a city plagued by people like yourself.

Do everyone within 100 miles of you a favor and kill yourself.  You are truly a worthless idiot.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2010, 10:21:14 PM »
Better than that please explain how 9 of the nineteen supposed hijackers are STILL ALIVE!!!!!


Can you prove this?
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2010, 10:21:55 PM »
Can you prove this?

enter the alleged BBC report.  lol

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2010, 10:23:40 PM »
enter the alleged BBC report.  lol
No really, I want to know what the nine supposed surviving hijackers are up to these days.

SAMSON?
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2010, 10:27:48 PM »
With all due respect.

REad the books 1421 and 1434.  Gallileo was battling the church NOT other astronomers.  

Also, just because you can find instances were a small percentage of people were right, doesn't mean these people are.  My point with quoting the .4% was to put the impact of "1000" in its proper perspective.

Trust me, I know exactly who Galileo was battling.  The point is this:
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Galileo's championing of Copernicanism was controversial within his lifetime, when a large majority of philosophers and astronomers still subscribed (at least outwardly) to the geocentric view that the Earth is at the centre of the universe.

That fact didn't make his argument any less valid.


I guess you haven't seen any of my posts about the Catholic Church....  :)
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2010, 10:29:27 PM »
With all due respect.

REad the books 1421 and 1434.  Gallileo was battling the church NOT other astronomers.  

Also, just because you can find instances were a small percentage of people were right, doesn't mean these people are.  My point with quoting the .4% was to put the impact of "1000" in its proper perspective.

What are you talking about, there is no "proper perspective". 
The majority being WRONG is mankind's history...
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2010, 10:30:57 PM »
Prove any of what you claim as the truth is true.

And I always love how Americans don't know shit about their own country, but some shitstain in some third world, rat infested shithole knows everything about it. ;D

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2010, 10:34:49 PM »
Trust me, I know exactly who Galileo was battling.  The point is this:
My point was, that fact didn't make his argument any less valid.
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What are you talking about, there is no "proper perspective".  
The majority being WRONG is mankind's history...

That's not what i mean.  It was stated as a supporting argument that a 1000 E's and A's want a new investigation and the number was significant.  The retort on my end was to that number in its proper perspective as being .4% or likely much less.  You have to remember, all this info has been out there for 10 year and 99.7% of these people don't see a problem with it.

This is not like a new discovery, for example atomic power.  This is all based on existing knowledge and expertise.

PS  I'm not trying to come off with attitude about this Eye, That's why i said with all due respect.  I welcome your discussion/opinion.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2010, 10:58:35 PM »
That's not what i mean.  It was stated as a supporting argument that a 1000 E's and A's want a new investigation and the number was significant.  The retort on my end was to that number in its proper perspective as being .4% or likely much less.  You have to remember, all this info has been out there for 10 year and 99.7% of these people don't see a problem with it.

This is not like a new discovery, for example atomic power.  This is all based on existing knowledge and expertise.

PS  I'm not trying to come off with attitude about this Eye, That's why i said with all due respect.  I welcome your discussion/opinion.


This is why we need web cams Ozmo (no homo).  If my posts come off in a hostile manor please forgive me, I'm smiling.  8)

I understand what you're saying now, but when one thousand engineers are concerned about something as significant as 9/11 I'm concerned.  :o
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2010, 11:30:25 PM »
This is why we need web cams Ozmo (no homo).  If my posts come off in a hostile manor please forgive me, I'm smiling.  8)

I understand what you're saying now, but when one thousand engineers are concerned about something as significant as 9/11 I'm concerned.  :o

Right on, Cool.

Im not saying we shouldn't question 9/11 and I support a second investigation.  All I'm saying is based on the evidence and explanation from experts, and pretty much 99% of experts that there's nothing that points to a CT and until something tangabile surfaces i can't see it reasonably, outside its official explanation.

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2010, 12:01:46 AM »
Right on, Cool.

Im not saying we shouldn't question 9/11 and I support a second investigation.  All I'm saying is based on the evidence and explanation from experts, and pretty much 99% of experts that there's nothing that points to a CT and until something tangabile surfaces i can't see it reasonably, outside its official explanation.

We shouldn't discuss it, maybe in the future when more information is available.

Forget conspiracy theories, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that you guys can believe one hundred plus floors could possibly "pancake" (official explanation, which means the floor at fire level failed, dropped onto the floor below it causing it to fail which inturn dropped on the floor below it and so on) on each other from top to the bottom (1350 feet, avg 12 feet per floor) in 10 seconds.

Officially that's the cause of failure.  The speed in which the building went from upright to completely collapsed though suggests it faced no resistance at all as if turned to dust.  So which is it?  Officially it "pancaked" (BOOM!!!, BOOM!!!, BOOM!!, BOOM!! *Floor Hitting Floor* 110 times) in 10 seconds?

That's just one of the thousand incidents from 09/11/2001 that we don't understand nine years later.

Isn't it important that we understand what happened that day?  Maybe they're hiding a piece of the puzzle for good reason?  Maybe it's for national security?  Maybe that's why we're only allowed to see three frames from one out of the hundreds of security cameras around the Pentagon that captured the impact or explosion?

 ???
Wow...  :o
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2010, 01:45:38 AM »
How many people and how much time would it take to wire a building like the WTC with enough explosives to bring it down?


there was a .mht file from a page that investigated these questions and discussed this very succinctly
Unfortunately, the site was tampered with... by whom, I cannot say.

But it showcased the many witnesses who worked in the building who spoke of extensive unusual activity going.
such as: occupanys on a floor that was supposed to be unoccupied, and OFF LIMITs to all. the elevators didn't even stop on this floor, but those underneath would hear people and thing being moved. changes in regular security routines, including the highly unusual step of removing bom sniffing dogs. bush's cousin being put in charge of security just prior to the event etc., etc.,

What I found most troubling however was that the regular security personnel were replaced temporarily, some informed not to come to work in the days prior, coupled with the removal of the dogs. Every since the 1st attack, those dogs were an integral part of the building security, yet for some reason, authorities deemed it necessary to remove the dogs for a brief period and to give the canine's hunam partners a few days off. :-\

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And how would those people go about wiring the explosives so that no one from the public would see them before they went off? 

That's a very good question I'd like answered vis-a-vis building 7.
When did they have time to wire that building? the owner admitted it was demo'd,
...when was it wired? ...at noon on Sept 11th... while everyone was rushing around covered in cement dust, or while the firemen was trying to put out the fires?
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2010, 01:56:09 AM »
Can any anti-truther/anti-ct'er explain how Satam al-Suqami (one of the hijackers) passport was found comepletely intact, outside wtc? The passport was inside the plain when it hit wtc.

I mean, if you believe the burning jetfuel brought down wtc you have to question why the passport was not incinerated in the building.

This is just one of many little head-scratchers that get over shadowed by the actual physics part of the event, which is what encompases the main debate between fair-weather debunkers and extreme truther types.

Its a good starting point. Im curious what everyone believes on this.



Another head-scratcher that I have was the head of the FEMA team being interviewed and clearly saying they got their dispatch orders to go to NYC Monday night around 8:30pm. Sept 11, 2001 fell on a Tuesday. That little piece of footage by ABC if I remember correctly was buried so deep, I doubt it will ever see the light of day again. Some people have it, but many copies started disappearing shortly thereafter. i can understand a FEMA team being dispatch to a city like New Orleans, or orlando etc., when they know in advance that a hurricane will be coming in, but how & why could a team be dispatched in advanced for something like 911? Really makes you go hmmmm? ???
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2010, 02:02:49 AM »
Don't fool yourself with the believe of you being (eh hem) educated (haha)...let alone WELL EDUCATED. The dumbest people have no clue of how dumb they really are.

You still have not answered how a building falls when no plane hit it...

Samson, didn't your mommy never read you the story of the 3 lit-tle pigs?  :o
It was the big bad wolfofwitz.  >:(  He huffed, and he puffed, ...and he blew the building down.  ;D
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2010, 07:20:09 AM »
The steel did not disintegrate, but the concrete was turned literally into powder...something that is impossible.

SAMSON are you saying that concrete cannot be turned into powder or that if it was, that the steel would have also?
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« Reply #67 on: March 13, 2010, 08:08:04 AM »
there was a .mht file from a page that investigated these questions and discussed this very succinctly
Unfortunately, the site was tampered with... by whom, I cannot say.

But it showcased the many witnesses who worked in the building who spoke of extensive unusual activity going.
such as: occupanys on a floor that was supposed to be unoccupied, and OFF LIMITs to all. the elevators didn't even stop on this floor, but those underneath would hear people and thing being moved. changes in regular security routines, including the highly unusual step of removing bom sniffing dogs. bush's cousin being put in charge of security just prior to the event etc., etc.,

What I found most troubling however was that the regular security personnel were replaced temporarily, some informed not to come to work in the days prior, coupled with the removal of the dogs. Every since the 1st attack, those dogs were an integral part of the building security, yet for some reason, authorities deemed it necessary to remove the dogs for a brief period and to give the canine's hunam partners a few days off. :-\

That's a very good question I'd like answered vis-a-vis building 7.
When did they have time to wire that building? the owner admitted it was demo'd,
...when was it wired? ...at noon on Sept 11th... while everyone was rushing around covered in cement dust, or while the firemen was trying to put out the fires?

I remember the information about people telling of security beig replaced, floors that were unoccupied that  suddenly were being worked on. I have a book called THE BIG LIE written by Thierry Meysson that captured all of this info a few months after 911. The attempted HIDING of information about what happened in those buildings before and after the demolition of them is incredible. The extents to which the american government is going to keep the blame of fake Arab terrorist is unbelievable.
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #68 on: March 13, 2010, 08:10:58 AM »
Samson, didn't your mommy never read you the story of the 3 lit-tle pigs?  :o
It was the big bad wolfofwitz.  >:(  He huffed, and he puffed, ...and he blew the building down.  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ohhhhhhhhh...So that's what happened?
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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #69 on: March 13, 2010, 08:20:38 AM »
We shouldn't discuss it, maybe in the future when more information is available.

What do you mean?  Why shouldn't it be discussed?

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Forget conspiracy theories, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that you guys can believe one hundred plus floors could possibly "pancake" (official explanation, which means the floor at fire level failed, dropped onto the floor below it causing it to fail which inturn dropped on the floor below it and so on) on each other from top to the bottom (1350 feet, avg 12 feet per floor) in 10 seconds.

Officially that's the cause of failure.  The speed in which the building went from upright to completely collapsed though suggests it faced no resistance at all as if turned to dust.  So which is it?  Officially it "pancaked" (BOOM!!!, BOOM!!!, BOOM!!, BOOM!! *Floor Hitting Floor* 110 times) in 10 seconds?

No,  It doesn't surprise me at all.  In fact in watching it, when I did as it happened, i was wondering when the buildings were going to fall.   Thousands of experts have looked at this and have no problem with it.  Additionally when you apply the "rest of the story" to it, its just far fetched.

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That's just one of the thousand incidents from 09/11/2001 that we don't understand nine years later.

Isn't it important that we understand what happened that day?  Maybe they're hiding a piece of the puzzle for good reason?  Maybe it's for national security?  Maybe that's why we're only allowed to see three frames from one out of the hundreds of security cameras around the Pentagon that captured the impact or explosion?

 ???
Wow...  :o

I'll bet those "hundreds of security cameras" are BS.  

Aside from that, just try and take look at the whole thing as a "inside job" from point of conception, planning, execution, and cover up, and you should come to the conclusion that an inside job is illogical, unfeasible, and doesn't make much sense.



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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #70 on: March 13, 2010, 08:53:35 AM »
SAMSON are you saying that concrete cannot be turned into powder or that if it was, that the steel would have also?

I was correcting EYE who said the steel disintegrated. Steel did not disintegrate at the WTC, we all saw from the video that the steel was most what collapsed to the ground in one big heap. The concrete however was pulverized to a fine powder/dust, which is impossible. The concrete should have fallen to the ground in big chunks and pieces. Notice in this video at the 48 second mark that the upper section of tower two leans heavily forward as the building is collapsing. Given the angle of the lean and fall, that entire 30 to 40 floor section should have fallen AWAY from the building and onto the street below...BUT...it doesn't. That whole section is pulverized to dust before it even get to the ground. Why and how could that happen?



Watch this video...it is one of the best explanation of what happened to the WTC...It was NOT a collapse, but what you witnessed was a CONTROLLED DEMOLITION



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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #71 on: March 13, 2010, 09:25:43 AM »
Proof you are as dumb as everyone on Getbig says you are.  

Exhibit A:

For the 9 millionth time..  I live in the suburbs.  I work in a city plagued by people like yourself.

Do everyone within 100 miles of you a favor and kill yourself.  You are truly a worthless idiot.

Sure you do...sure you do..a shack in the woods is NOT the suburbs
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« Reply #72 on: March 13, 2010, 10:33:34 AM »
Sure you do...sure you do..a shack in the woods is NOT the suburbs

The average household income in my neighborhood is $114,000.  Not super rich but certainly not a shack.  How about yours? ;D

Once again you speak when you shouldn't, moron.

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« Reply #73 on: March 13, 2010, 10:34:44 AM »
The average household income in my neighborhood is $114,000.  Not super rich but certainly not a shack.  How about yours? ;D

Once again you speak when you shouldn't, moron.


According to the libs you are a multi millionaire. 

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Re: EXPLOSIVE NEWS
« Reply #74 on: March 13, 2010, 10:59:05 AM »
I was correcting EYE who said the steel disintegrated.

I was being sarcastic SAMSON, you should get off the 9/11 stuff.  You really turn people off that may have otherwise done some research on the subject...

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