Yeah, I hear ya, there are different types of hip hop and certainly some talented artists. They had a jazz/hip hop collaboration that was pretty cool for a while. I guess my comment is more about rap (and a lot of pop music in general). Across the board, rap is not good musically and the images that the artists and producers pushed to kids is completely irresponsible.
We just played a big gig last night: threw down some James Brown, Earth Wind & Fire, Steely Dan, Barry White, Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Commodores, Kool & the gang, etc. Lots of solos and improv, had a great time. Got a sax player and guitarist that just kill it.
Most of these pop musicians can't hold a candle to good live and studio musicians. I love music so kinda passionate about not liking rap, which for the most part, is very simple (and irritating).