Author Topic: Universal Healthcare - cheaper and now in the USA (Read 61320 times)

Relentless · « **Reply #325 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:22:05 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 23, 2010, 04:10:49 PM

maybe i'm a bit naive, but don't some people get into the medical field because they want to help people? $:-\$

E

You're a good man, Earl, but slightly naive. Go ask your doctor what he/she thinks about this bill.

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #326 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:10:35 PM »

Quote from: Relentless on March 23, 2010, 06:22:05 PM

You're a good man, Earl, but slightly naive. Go ask your doctor what he/she thinks about this bill.

I did today and he was pissed.

I wanted to leave but he was saying all the negatives about this Healthcare Bill.

Matt C · « **Reply #327 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:15:45 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on March 23, 2010, 03:32:46 PM

Haha, you're freaking high. i posted this yesterday. I have a client that has a huge insurance business and I asked him yesterday how this clusterfuck is going to effect his business, his response was..."We're not sure yet, but we figure it's going to cost us an EXTRA $1.5-2mil per year, it's going to hurt us".

Tbombz, you're in the wrong country.

Tell me about it. If these people love socialism so much why don't they move to any of the oh so wonderful socialist countries in the world?

The United States was founded on the protection of individual liberty, private property, and economic freedom. If you don't like it - leave! But NOOOO, the lefties have to go and ruin the last bastion of freedom left in the world.

Montague · « **Reply #328 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:22:28 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 23, 2010, 07:15:45 PM

Tell me about it. If these people love socialism so much why don't they move to any of the oh so wonderful socialist countries in the world?

The United States was founded on the protection of individual liberty, private property, and economic freedom. If you don't like it - leave! But NOOOO, the lefties have to go and ruin the last bastion of freedom left in the world.

If you’re living in the U.S., you already ARE in a socialist country.

But, I think you’ll be surprised at the “shock waves” of benefits this bill will produce.
For instance, critics claim that many companies will be forced to lay off employees due to the increasing costs of insuring them.

True, but…

Think how many NEW jobs will be created in the schoolbook publishing industry alone.
They’re gonna need an awful lot of people to write sections about U.S. Capitalism in the HISTORY BOOKS.

io856 · « **Reply #329 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:23:59 PM »

the main problem with this is it creates further governmental bureaucracy which is counterproductive

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #330 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:24:27 PM »

Quote from: DonkeyKong on March 23, 2010, 03:40:03 PM

Wow, i see Squadfather making a huge comeback on getbig, now that he has health insurance!!

lol

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #331 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:25:33 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 23, 2010, 07:15:45 PM

The United States was founded on the protection of individual liberty, private property, and economic freedom. If you don't like it - leave! But NOOOO, the lefties have to go and ruin the last bastion of freedom left in the world.

Exactly!!!

Good post!

CARTEL · « **Reply #332 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:27:05 PM »

If adding 30 million people saves money, we should insure Mexico also and save big time!

thelamefalsehood · « **Reply #333 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:28:19 PM »

Quote from: CARTEL on March 23, 2010, 07:27:05 PM

If adding 30 million people saves money, we should insure Mexico also and save big time!

I'm sure we will be in a round about way in the next year to year and a half.

Matt C · « **Reply #334 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:30:23 PM »

Quote from: Eyeball Chambers on March 23, 2010, 07:25:33 PM

Exactly!!!

Good post!

Enjoy communism. We've had it in Canada for some time now. I just bought Mark Steyn's book "America Alone" which is soon to be banned in Canada. So long freedom of speech.

Not that we ever had it in Canada but at least American authors have had it whose work has founds its way on the internet. So long to freedom of speech in the USA too.

Method101 · « **Reply #335 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:32:55 PM »

tbomz is an oil driller

che · « **Reply #336 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:35:31 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on March 23, 2010, 07:30:23 PM

Enjoy communism. We've had it in Canada for some time now. I just bought Mark Steyn's book "America Alone" which is soon to be banned in Canada. So long freedom of speech. Not that we ever had it in Canada but at least American authors have had it whose work has founds its way on the internet. So long to freedom of speech in the USA too.

If you don't like it ,why don't you get out of Canada

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #337 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:36:15 PM »

Quote from: che on March 23, 2010, 07:35:31 PM

If you don't like it ,why don't you get out of Canada

Where would he go?? Mexico??

jtsunami · « **Reply #338 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:38:11 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 23, 2010, 04:10:49 PM

maybe i'm a bit naive, but don't some people get into the medical field because they want to help people? $:-\$

E

x2!

che · « **Reply #339 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:38:33 PM »

Quote from: Doug_Steele on March 23, 2010, 07:36:15 PM

Where would he go?? Mexico??

USA

Method101 · « **Reply #340 on:** March 23, 2010, 07:58:19 PM »

Quote from: che on March 23, 2010, 07:35:31 PM

If you don't like it ,why don't you get out of Canada

jtsunami · « **Reply #341 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:02:02 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on March 23, 2010, 03:32:46 PM

Haha, you're freaking high. i posted this yesterday. I have a client that has a huge insurance business and I asked him yesterday how this clusterfuck is going to effect his business, his response was..."We're not sure yet, but we figure it's going to cost us an EXTRA $1.5-2mil per year, it's going to hurt us".

Tbombz, you're in the wrong country.

so he was profiting off of charging huge premiums, cutting costs at the expense of human life, and denying coverage to those who need it and you find this right? Insurance companies are scumbags, health care should not be a business, that is disgusting!

I assume he already yanks millions upon millions from overcharging people as well since there is no regulations which is despicable. Also making money in finding a way to deny coverage to a person who needs a life saving operation but try's to find a way to drop the person to save some $$$. WOW great guy! I call him a murder, death panel employee. We need over seer's of this industry, if not they will take you and your life away at the expense of there next vacation to the exotic islands, fuckin greedy assholes.

jt

Spoony Luv · « **Reply #342 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:06:17 PM »

Take out 3/4 of the government and they will still raise taxes...Its a scam people...They want us all to fight amounts ourselves over silly BS...Bottom line is the Dems and the Repubs are going to keep growing government...And when government grows, so does the tax rate...In the end, they want a 75% tax rate...
Until a serious uprising...Shit will always be the same...DO NOT HAVE KIDS IN THIS DIMENSION...IT HAS TOTALLY BEEN TAKING OVER...Die without kids and you will move on to another dimension...If not, you will keep coming back to this sort of bullshit...

Matt C · « **Reply #343 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:09:00 PM »

Quote from: che on March 23, 2010, 07:35:31 PM

If you don't like it ,why don't you get out of Canada

That's the thing che - people DO leave Canada. It has been happening for decades and people used to leave to go to the USA. Not anymore though. If things slide any further to the left than they are right now I will be leaving to the USA. Sadly, I fear the USA will not be far behind.

Eyeball Chambers · « **Reply #344 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:09:16 PM »

Quote from: CARTEL on March 23, 2010, 07:27:05 PM

If adding 30 million people saves money, we should insure Mexico also and save big time!

haha

Matt C · « **Reply #345 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:13:07 PM »

Quote from: jtsunami on March 23, 2010, 08:02:02 PM

so he was profiting off of charging huge premiums, cutting costs at the expense of human life, and denying coverage to those who need it and you find this right? Insurance companies are scumbags, health care should not be a business, that is disgusting!

I assume he already yanks millions upon millions from overcharging people as well since there is no regulations which is despicable. Also making money in finding a way to deny coverage to a person who needs a life saving operation but try's to find a way to drop the person to save some $$$. WOW great guy! I call him a murder, death panel employee. We need over seer's of this industry, if not they will take you and your life away at the expense of there next vacation to the exotic islands, fuckin greedy assholes.

jt

What do you suppose he is doing with that money? It is either in the banking system or being used to increase the operational efficiencies of his business, i.e., it is being used to serve the health care needs of individuals even better in the future. Now with a parasite class taking this money, productive people will get even worse coverage and get sick and/or die as a result. Is that fair? As for how health care should not be a business, who do you think produces all of the medical technology and medicine that you benefit from? Was it created in a socialist commune or by a corporation? Now that the USA has a socialized medical system, Canada can no longer free ride off the US technological innovations as we have been. Oh yes, things are wonderful here:

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Thousands+surgeries+Metro+Vancouver+leaked+paper+reveals/1878506/story.html

In Canada we aren't denied coverage for expensive medicine and other health care measures - these things simply don't exist to begin with!!!

It's so horrible to have to pay a million dollars for a new cancer fighting drug - it's so much better to simply not have the option whatsoever.

tbombz · « **Reply #346 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:16:42 PM »

The fact of the matter is that we are already spending much more than we would need to spend to give every citizen complete and free coverage.

sidenotes:

io: gov beaucuracy? no, gov resourcing pooling to give all citizens the ability to have access to a vital service that they otherwise couldnt afford on their own. btw, if a person doesnt believe in government(opposes government programs) then why the hell are they interested in politics? lol!

mattc: you are racist, elitist, misinformed, misguided, and the mouth on the nutsack of america.

Relentless · « **Reply #347 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:19:25 PM »

Quote from: io856 on March 23, 2010, 07:23:59 PM

the main problem with this is it creates further governmental bureaucracy which is counterproductive

Well put.

Relentless · « **Reply #348 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:21:55 PM »

Quote from: Spoony Luv on March 23, 2010, 08:06:17 PM

Take out 3/4 of the government and they will still raise taxes...Its a scam people...They want us all to fight amounts ourselves over silly BS...Bottom line is the Dems and the Repubs are going to keep growing government...And when government grows, so does the tax rate...In the end, they want a 75% tax rate...
Until a serious uprising...Shit will always be the same...DO NOT HAVE KIDS IN THIS DIMENSION...IT HAS TOTALLY BEEN TAKING OVER...Die without kids and you will move on to another dimension...If not, you will keep coming back to this sort of bullshit...

Lol! Great post. Western Civilization is on the decline anyway, so why not partake by not upping the birth rate? The smart, financially savvy people in today's world don't reproduce, while all of the morons out there are fucking like rabbits.

Matt C · « **Reply #349 on:** March 23, 2010, 08:22:26 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on March 23, 2010, 08:16:42 PM

mattc: you are racist, elitist, misinformed, misguided, and the mouth on the nutsack of america.

Elitist? Excuse me but aren't you the one cheering on free health care for the "poor" people in the USA who are among the top 20% of richest people in the world already?

Did you realize that 2.6 billion people in the world live on under $2 a day? And you want to give free health care to people who already have a far higher standard of living than them? Free health care for the world's richest 20%! Sounds pretty elitist to me.