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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2010, 11:37:53 AM »
If driving manual is so "Manly"  then why did top car makers like Ferrari and Lambo get rid of the clutch all together and made shift paddles like a fucking PS3 game.  Get with the program boys.


 

 1-For those stupid people that does not  know how to drive.
 
 2-Weight and size.

 Should i continue?  :)

 By the way there's a difference between "semi automatic'' and "automatic".
 

 


 
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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2010, 11:46:07 AM »
All i know is most americans cant drive a manual shift...which instantly does make them shit drivers
I always find it amusing how so many americans do their cars up to look really nice and then wouldnt actually have a clue how to drive it unless it was an automatic...ultimate irony right there.

What makes you think that?  I honestly don't know anyone who can't drive a manual transmission.
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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2010, 11:51:51 AM »
I once caught a left leg cramp while shifting my sh*t into third and damn near killed everybody on legs day.  ;)

My next will be an auto-matty though..been driving stick forever it seems.

 

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2010, 11:52:44 AM »
If driving manual is so "Manly"  then why did top car makers like Ferrari and Lambo get rid of the clutch all together and made shift paddles like a fucking PS3 game.  Get with the program boys.

shift paddles lol, that's as manly as it gets.  ::) ::)

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2010, 11:54:23 AM »
Unless you're driving a car made for performance, you're either poor or stupid to be driving manual.  :-\
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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2010, 12:37:55 PM »
DAg, Ferrari F1 shifter and dual clutch 7 speed trans, BMW DCT, and Porsche Dual Clutch all shift faster than a manual would.

Also living in my area, which has one of the nation's worst gridlocks, driving a manual would be waaaay to tiresome, annoying and more wear and tear on the tranny. Especially if your are sitting in traffic 1-2 hrs in the morning and 1-3 hours in the evening. I mean going 1-30 mph, and then sitting takes it toll on you, the clutch, the rest of the tranny assembly. It's not unheard of of people who had manuals from the 90s going thru clutch assemblies like they were candy.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2010, 01:15:55 PM »
DAg, Ferrari F1 shifter and dual clutch 7 speed trans, BMW DCT, and Porsche Dual Clutch all shift faster than a manual would.

Also living in my area, which has one of the nation's worst gridlocks, driving a manual would be waaaay to tiresome, annoying and more wear and tear on the tranny. Especially if your are sitting in traffic 1-2 hrs in the morning and 1-3 hours in the evening. I mean going 1-30 mph, and then sitting takes it toll on you, the clutch, the rest of the tranny assembly. It's not unheard of of people who had manuals from the 90s going thru clutch assemblies like they were candy.

no kidding. This is one of the main reason I'm making the swap.

I remember when my damn master cylinder went out on me in a 93 civic I had. Car was 6 years old....I'm sitting at the light not even able to get the damn car in gear....I then look down at my foot and it's covered in fluid. That wear and tear is murder on a manual.

If your financial situation allows, I recommend the upgrade to auto for this reason alone. Saves in long run imo.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2010, 01:21:07 PM »
 The point here is. if you know how to drive.

 Manual is more fun, more efficient and you must know how to drive.

 Of course if you want comfort "lazy" or don't know how to drive you will choose automatic.

 I'm not talking about what is comfort? or what is not comfort?
  
 I'm talking about driving skills.

 How many of you can do a reverse park on a hill? manual shift.

 Question...driving a front wheel car  and driving a rear wheel car...can you drive booth cars the same way?

 Sh*t.. did i ask that question correct?
 

 
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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2010, 01:22:26 PM »
What makes you think that?  I honestly don't know anyone who can't drive a manual transmission.

i dated an american girl for a long time she was the only person i know out of all her friends (and my friends) and family that could drive stick...the most bizarre thing i used to see was people who were driving manual (which was very few) at the lights pushing the clutch all the way down and letting the car roll back so everybody could see they were driving stick...very odd.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2010, 01:34:24 PM »
no kidding. This is one of the main reason I'm making the swap.

I remember when my damn master cylinder went out on me in a 93 civic I had. Car was 6 years old....I'm sitting at the light not even able to get the damn car in gear....I then look down at my foot and it's covered in fluid. That wear and tear is murder on a manual.

If your financial situation allows, I recommend the upgrade to auto for this reason alone. Saves in long run imo.
I agree

Gracie, my dad taught me how to drive a manual, but Ive had autos, and as I said, I live near Washington, DC. It's roughly 45 minutes from home, but for people who work there, in the mornings it is roughly 2 hrs of gridlock
of 1-30 mph stop and go, sometime you just sit there. In the afternoons, it's like 1-3, sometime 4 hrs. Some people who get off at 5 don't get home until 9. Now imagine that in a 6 speed manual. The constant engaging of
clutch, gas, and tranny. It gets old real quick...I knew a guy who lived near my family who had the old Jag V12 coupe, he worked in DC, and went thru 3 clutch cables in very short time.

I agree it's fun to run thru the gears and to learn heel-toe, and engine braking, but a day to day driver who must commute to a major American metropolitan city, a auto is the best "weapon" of choice. The manual is for weekends.

Steeve, that rollback is very common. I actually saw someone who did that at every light, and he did it one rime and went too far back and backed into the car behind him.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2010, 01:38:47 PM »
I agree

Gracie, my dad taught me how to drive a manual, but Ive had autos, and as I said, I live near Washington, DC. It's roughly 45 minutes from home, but for people who work there, in the mornings it is roughly 2 hrs of gridlock
of 1-30 mph stop and go, sometime you just sit there. In the afternoons, it's like 1-3, sometime 4 hrs. Some people who get off at 5 don't get home until 9. Now imagine that in a 6 speed manual. The constant engaging of
clutch, gas, and tranny. It gets old real quick...I knew a guy who lived near my family who had the old Jag V12 coupe, he worked in DC, and went thru 3 clutch cables in very short time.

I agree it's fun to run thru the gears and to learn heel-toe, and engine braking, but a day to day driver who must commute to a major American metropolitan city, a auto is the best "weapon" of choice. The manual is for weekends.

Steeve, that rollback is very common. I actually saw someone who did that at every light, and he did it one rime and went too far back and backed into the car behind him.

Ha Ha LMAO...that'll teach him!

I agree with your point about traffic tho, if im stuck in traffic it can be a pain in the arse shifting between first and second the whole time and constantly sitting on the bite just to inch forward five yards sometimes me left knee gives me shit if im sitting in traffic for a while and at that point I can definitely see why for a morning commute you would want an auto. For everything else I couldnt, I like to feel like im driving the car, when i drive auto's i just want to go to sleep...point shoot.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2010, 01:40:46 PM »
i dated an american girl for a long time she was the only person i know out of all her friends (and my friends) and family that could drive stick...the most bizarre thing i used to see was people who were driving manual (which was very few) at the lights pushing the clutch all the way down and letting the car roll back so everybody could see they were driving stick...very odd.

it's called "riding your clutch" ....some do it from bad habit alone...some to get off the light faster when it changes while still in first gear "riding the clutch."


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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #37 on: March 22, 2010, 01:44:15 PM »
it's called "riding your clutch" ....some do it from bad habit alone...some to get off the light faster when it changes while still in first gear "riding the clutch."


And we know what happens when you ride your clutch too much, rollback or not :'(

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2010, 01:45:34 PM »
Unless you're driving a car made for performance, you're either poor or stupid to be driving manual.  :-\

actually manual cars sell for a lot cheaper (if you compare the same car manual vs. auto) less people are inclined to buy them because of the whole comfort factor while driving auto.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2010, 01:47:35 PM »
its not so much that americans are getting too stupid to drive......they are getting too stupid to live.  we should all be put out of our misery.  especially the smarmy, self-important faggy littler liberals who drive prius's.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2010, 01:57:22 PM »
I just see automatics as being for the lazy and the old. My dad has a manual for his work journey's but last year he got an auto for running about at weekends to give his clutch foot a rest.

They do make sense if you're stuck in city jams everyday, but in that instance i'd switch to pedal power or motorbike.

I'll consider one when i hit the wrong side of 60.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2010, 01:59:10 PM »
And we know what happens when you ride your clutch too much, rollback or not :'(

Heck yeah. Not a good spot to be in when it all goes down either. Sitting there with that "look" on your face knowing damn well what lead up to it happening. LOL


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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #42 on: March 22, 2010, 02:04:29 PM »
I agree

Gracie, my dad taught me how to drive a manual, but Ive had autos, and as I said, I live near Washington, DC. It's roughly 45 minutes from home, but for people who work there, in the mornings it is roughly 2 hrs of gridlock
of 1-30 mph stop and go, sometime you just sit there. In the afternoons, it's like 1-3, sometime 4 hrs. Some people who get off at 5 don't get home until 9. Now imagine that in a 6 speed manual. The constant engaging of
clutch, gas, and tranny. It gets old real quick...I knew a guy who lived near my family who had the old Jag V12 coupe, he worked in DC, and went thru 3 clutch cables in very short time.

I agree it's fun to run thru the gears and to learn heel-toe, and engine braking, but a day to day driver who must commute to a major American metropolitan city, a auto is the best "weapon" of choice. The manual is for weekends.

Steeve, that rollback is very common. I actually saw someone who did that at every light, and he did it one rime and went too far back and backed into the car behind him.


 See you  got the point.


 But, until you learn how to  drive manual, you're not driving.

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2010, 02:08:27 PM »
Aryton Senna :'(

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #44 on: March 22, 2010, 02:08:46 PM »
epic justification of driving manual... for a few thousand saved  ;D

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #45 on: March 22, 2010, 02:09:31 PM »
It's funny how its always Americans who are "ignorant" about the world, yet there are so many ill informed foreigners in this thread who think that no Americans can drive a manual transmission.... ::)

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #46 on: March 22, 2010, 02:11:26 PM »
I like girls who drive manual transmissions!

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #47 on: March 22, 2010, 02:16:06 PM »
I like girls who drive manual transmissions!
Me too, I had a former co-worker that drives only manuals. I was in the car with her, and I found it very attractive, dare I say, quite hot. Too bad she doesn't date men 10 yrs younger than her :'(

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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #48 on: March 22, 2010, 02:32:34 PM »
Interessante...Isso nao e nem brasil.

do u stop at red lights at night...gracie?  ;D


 Do you remember this place?

 Rio speed limit 80 kph

 Most Cariocas like this guy don't give a f*ck... 160 kph inside the city.
 Btw: he is driving a sh*t car.
 
 

 Paused at 1:25 and you will see the speed limit sign.
 Sorry about the sound.
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Re: Are Americans getting too stupid to drive?
« Reply #49 on: March 22, 2010, 02:40:30 PM »
Me too, I had a former co-worker that drives only manuals. I was in the car with her, and I found it very attractive, dare I say, quite hot. Too bad she doesn't date men 10 yrs younger than her :'(


You should have whipped it out. Maybe then she would have changed her mind ;D