Christian Militia Group was preparing to fight the Anti-Christ

[Dos Equis]

Funny.

And true.

[Butterbean]

Like I said - go to 1600 PA Ave. with a bible, cross and Holy Water. 

Ah!  Took me a minute! 

[Deicide]

Without religious nutjobs we wouldn't be in the middle east.

I beg to differ. We are not in the Mideast because of religion, all ostenstible claims to the contrary notwithstanding...

[kcballer]

And true.

Fixed.  Christian fundamentalism has turned us against tolerance and towards judgment.  Groups like this prove this.   

[Dos Equis]

Fixed.  Christian fundamentalism has turned us against tolerance and towards judgment.  Groups like this prove this.   

Christians are no more a threat in this country than paranoid anti-religious extremists.  The overwhelming majority of people in this country are Christian.  We have over 200 million.  The fact a handful of nuts committed a crime says nothing about the majority of the country.  But like I said earlier, it does provide material for those desperate to bash religious folks. 

[kcballer]

Christians are no more a threat in this country than paranoid anti-religious extremists.  The overwhelming majority of people in this country are Christian.  We have over 200 million.  The fact a handful of nuts committed a crime says nothing about the majority of the country.  But like I said earlier, it does provide material for those desperate to bash religious folks. 

Not desperate to bash anyone.  I just don't try to hide from the truth.  For a christian nation we sure have a lot of crime, murder, drug use, per capita pollution of God's gift to us the Earth, worship of false idols and money, not to mention the largest producers and consumers of pornography. 

[Dos Equis]

Not desperate to bash anyone.  I just don't try to hide from the truth.  For a christian nation we sure have a lot of crime, murder, drug use, per capita pollution of God's gift to us the Earth, worship of false idols and money, not to mention the largest producers and consumers of pornography.  

What truth?  That a handful of criminals are representative of the more than 200 million Christians in this country?  That's distortion.  

So we have crime, etc. and this establishes what exactly?  If you have any experience with Christianity (I have no idea if you do), then you know that "all have sinned," so the fact we have a lot of social problems isn't news.  It certainly does nothing to support the false contention that Christians are a threat to this country.    

[Deicide]

Fixed.  Christian fundamentalism has turned us against tolerance and towards judgment.  Groups like this prove this.   

True, very true.

[Soul Crusher]

True, very true.

So long as they are not infringing upon my rights economically or socially, i really dont care if they are judgemental, hypocrticial or whatever. 

[Deicide]

So long as they are not infringing upon my rights economically or socially, i really dont care if they are judgemental, hypocrticial or whatever. 

I guess...living in NYC you are shielded from them.

If you lived in Utah or Wyoming you might think differently...

[Soul Crusher]

I guess...living in NYC you are shielded from them.

If you lived in Utah or Wyoming you might think differently...

I guess the potholes on Webster Ave., the drunk mics on Katonah Ave., the criminals in Bronx Criminal Court, and the traffic on Pelham Prkwy, are more immediate issues for me.      

[Deicide]

I guess the potholes on Webster Ave., the drunk mics on Katonah Ave., the criminals in Bronx Criminal Court, and the traffic on Pelham Prkwy, are more immediate issues for me.      

Eh, at least that stuff makes sense...Christian militia groups don't make sense.

[drkaje]

I beg to differ. We are not in the Mideast because of religion, all ostenstible claims to the contrary notwithstanding...

Religion plays a huge part in out mid east policies. With all the technological advances in America you have to wonder why we aren't already free of oil dependency sooner unless staying there suited some motive.

[Deicide]

Religion plays a huge part in out mid east policies. With all the technological advances in America you have to wonder why we aren't already free of oil dependency sooner unless staying there suited some motive.

Uhm, sure, the motive being Exxon, Shell, etc...they want to milk profits for as long as they can.

[kcballer]

What truth?  That a handful of criminals are representative of the more than 200 million Christians in this country?  That's distortion.  

So we have crime, etc. and this establishes what exactly?  If you have any experience with Christianity (I have no idea if you do), then you know that "all have sinned," so the fact we have a lot of social problems isn't news.  It certainly does nothing to support the false contention that Christians are a threat to this country.    

No your type of Christians are the distortion.   I just provided you with a factual list of what goes on in this 'Christian America' today.  That is the threat the intolerance, the warped views, the complete degradation of society and the me first attitude.  Money as your god and sex and violence as your teachers.  THAT is 'Christian America' and it's not working.   

[Straw Man]

That militia  group will get the last laugh after the AntiChrist shows up and wipes out our military

everyone knows that the only thing that can stop the AntiChrist is a bunch of inbred hicks running around the woods in camo

we're doomed

at least guys like Beach Bum will be ratpured by then so they won't have to deal with it but the rest of us are SOL

[drkaje]

That militia  group will get the last laugh after the AntiChrist shows up and wipes out our military

everyone knows that the only thing that can stop the AntiChrist is a bunch of inbred hicks running around the woods in camo

we're doomed

at least guys like Beach Bum will be ratpured by then so they won't have to deal with it but the rest of us are SOL

Raptured, LOL!

Sometimes I forget you can be funny.

It is ironic... I wrote fundamentalism but Beach automatically included all Christians.

[Dos Equis]

No your type of Christians are the distortion.   I just provided you with a factual list of what goes on in this 'Christian America' today.  That is the threat the intolerance, the warped views, the complete degradation of society and the me first attitude.  Money as your god and sex and violence as your teachers.  THAT is 'Christian America' and it's not working.   

Actually all you've done is recite a list of well-known societal problems and attempted to tie those problems to a handful of criminals, and then brand all 200 million-plus Christians in this country.  There is no nexus.  

It also isn't something that Christianity teaches.  The fact people engage in anti-Christian behavior only proves we have sinners.  This isn't news.  

[Dos Equis]

Raptured, LOL!

Sometimes I forget you can be funny.

It is ironic... I wrote fundamentalism but Beach automatically included all Christians.

Like there's a difference.  lol.  Anyone with sincerely held religious beliefs, and who has strong adherence to those beliefs is a "fundamentalist."  That's most of your country.  You're surrounded.  lol . . . .

[drkaje]

Like there's a difference.  lol.  Anyone with sincerely held religious beliefs, and who has strong adherence to those beliefs is a "fundamentalist."  That's most of your country.  You're surrounded.  lol . . . .

My definition is more stringent, LOL!

I see no difference between fundamentalists of any religion other than an ability to impose their will on others.

[Dos Equis]

My definition is more stringent, LOL!

I see no difference between fundamentalists of any religion other than an ability to impose their will on others.

What are your defintions of "fundamentalist" and "Christian fundamentalist"?   

[drkaje]

What are your defintions of "fundamentalist" and "Christian fundamentalist"?   

My Def.: Someone convinced the Bible, Koran, Talmud, Green Eggs and Ham, or whatever they read is literally the word of God.

[Dos Equis]

My Def.: Someone convinced the Bible, Koran, Talmud, Green Eggs and Ham, or whatever they read is literally the word of God.

Thanks.  That's most of the United States.  Christianity teaches that the Bible is literally the word of God.     

[drkaje]

Thanks.  That's most of the United States.  Christianity teaches that the Bible is literally the word of God.     

Fundamentalists have given themselves permission to impose their beliefs on others. There's no difference between our whackos and theirs.

[Dos Equis]

Fundamentalists have given themselves permission to impose their beliefs on others. There's no difference between our whackos and theirs.

Except your definition of whackos includes the overwhelming majority of the country.  There is a distinct difference between "us" and "them."   

How is it that Christians impose their beliefs on others?