Real Pilots Speak Out on 911

[quadzilla456]

This is the most idiotic statement I have ever read in my mife from someone who probably sits in his underwear in front of the computer yanking on his pecker to these vids. Guy, you have no expertise to even come close to anyting you are saying in this thread. Go do your homework please.

The only way you counter my argument is with an insult. That does not really impress me as far as your intellect goes. If you can provide an intelligent counter argument go ahead. I would welcome it. But personal insults makes you look like a moron.

[Skip8282]

 But personal insults makes you look like a moron.

  Keep owning yourself, keep showing that intellect.

Seriously you are an idiot if you believe a plane crashed into the building.

You and everyone that believe this is what happened are being made the bitches of the elites that planned this terror attack. How does it feel to be someone's bitch? Do you like to be the ape in the room?

It is really you that's a sheep.

I am amazed at how fucking stupid you'd have to be to believe it.

You are a moron for even fighting this. Give up.

[quadzilla456]

  Keep owning yourself, keep showing that intellect.

I am guilty of insults as well I'll concede that. However at least I am providing video archives and arguments along with my insults.

240 is right this argument is pointless we are sitting on opposite sides of the fence.

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The exterior wall where the impact occurred was not 12 feet thick. That is a bullshit statement. Perhaps in the vaults they are that thick but not the exterior skin that has windows. We are talking about the exterior wall.
Second I have a degree in Architecture and have worked in the field for over 10 years. The steel columns in WTC were not hollow like extruded aluminum sections. They were massive solid steel columns. The plane wings supposedly cut through those steel columns like a knife through butter.

Yet at the Pentagon the glass in the windows around the small hole were not even shattered. How the fuck is that possible? The plane has wings that would surely have destroyed at least the windows.

You are a moron for even fighting this. Give up.

Not true... The density of the concrete, reinforced rebar structure is NOT the same as the steel BOX BEAM structure as the WTC. I stand by what I said; the walls were some 12 feet thick in areas and a minimum of 3 feet in others. The "inner sanctum" is over 20 ft thick. Not to mention that the shear design of the "Pentegon" hence the name suggests it's strength in its shape. Unlike the "MASSIVE steel" construction you claim, The wings "sliced" through these because their connections FAILED at their joints and knocked the beams out!
Here's more silliness - You said: "Yet at the Pentagon the glass in the windows around the small hole were not even shattered. How the fuck is that possible? The plane has wings that would surely have destroyed at least the windows." But a MISSILE hit the Pentagon as you CTer's believe and didn't blow out the windows either??? Who's the fool?

You aren't going to believe this because your mind is made up. I'm not fighting this. You are. And your nonsense BS conspiracy theory charge has been debunked by some of the best engineers in the world who have nothing to gain but to explain what exactly happened. But, you might want to go back to your college and get tuition money back because you failed basic physics.

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The only way you counter my argument is with an insult. That does not really impress me as far as your intellect goes. If you can provide an intelligent counter argument go ahead. I would welcome it. But personal insults makes you look like a moron.

Here's a thought... Go buy a statics textbook, learn a little bit about calculating the "effective length" of a structural column, take what happened to the wtc and then contact me. This should keep you busy for a few weeks and when you get smacked in the face with facts you really don't want to see, you can then spend another three weeks talking to your buttboy CT'rs and brainstorm how to come up with some more nonsense to proove wrong what you just figured out all on your own.

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I am guilty of insults as well I'll concede that. However at least I am providing video archives and arguments along with my insults.

240 is right this argument is pointless we are sitting on opposite sides of the fence.

Yup. You and the rest of the 2% who believe this foolishness.

[tonymctones]

quad and 240 have either of you watched the liveleak video or the video of the loose change guys with the pop mechanics guys?

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quad and 240 have either of you watched the liveleak video or the video of the loose change guys with the pop mechanics guys?

Nooooooooooooooooo... 

[12secGT]

It's funny how this video has been ignored by every CTer in this thread. Why is that? Oh that's right, because it's not refutable. 

hummmm... looks like some windows are blown out, some airplane debris are found, some engine, landing gear parts, etc... It goes on.

What say you QuadZilla?

[12secGT]

Here's another kick in the ass to the CT claims of the "controlled Demolition" nonsense...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=364_1226769148

But I guess MIT was in on the big secret too.... 

[Fury]

Here's another kick in the ass to the CT claims of the "controlled Demolition" nonsense...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=364_1226769148

But I guess MIT was in on the big secret too.... 

The average Getbigger and CTer is smarter than the average MIT scientist. 

[Soul Crusher]

Here's another kick in the ass to the CT claims of the "controlled Demolition" nonsense...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=364_1226769148

But I guess MIT was in on the big secret too.... 

Great video.  Seriously.  Thank you for that. 

[Fury]

That woman's voice on that video infuriates me. I love how they're incapable of refuting the MIT paper with any hard evidence, just good ol' CT'er speculation.

[Soul Crusher]

The voice may be stupid, but the clip had very good points about the debris getting show outwards. 

[240 is Back]

"Yup. You and the rest of the 2% who believe this foolishness. "

Do you have any actual polls on how many Americans believe we need a new investigation into 911?

Cause the ones i've seen are sure above 2%.  Hell, Sarah Palin and Obama have both said they support a second investigation.  That's all most people want.

[Fury]

"Yup. You and the rest of the 2% who believe this foolishness. "

Do you have any actual polls on how many Americans believe we need a new investigation into 911?

Cause the ones i've seen are sure above 2%.  Hell, Sarah Palin and Obama have both said they support a second investigation.  That's all most people want.

Wanting "a new investigation" does not mean they think the US govt. caused 9/11. You taking a page out of the SamsonEnterprises book of spin?  

You've cycled through a dozen theories and have now zeroed in on a poll that shows people wanting a new investigation because you're incapable of refuting any of your other cockamamie theories. You actually claimed they used holograms at one point. Should you really be taken seriously when you can't even keep your story straight?

[240 is Back]

thanks man.

a new investigation would clear that up.  Pearl harbor had 4 investigations.  I'm sure we'll see another for 911 eventually.

[tonymctones]

thanks man.

a new investigation would clear that up.  Pearl harbor had 4 investigations.  I'm sure we'll see another for 911 eventually.

240 i specifically asked you a question and would like an answer...

have you watched the liveleak vido and the one with the loose change guys and the pop mechanics guys?

[Fury]

240 i specifically asked you a question and would like an answer...

have you watched the liveleak vido and the one with the loose change guys and the pop mechanics guys?

Of course not. He and douchezilla the "architect" have been avoiding addressing any of those videos for 3+ pages now. They just keep regurgitating the same "you're a sheep" and "this poll shows people want a new investigation" trash.

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"Yup. You and the rest of the 2% who believe this foolishness. "

Do you have any actual polls on how many Americans believe we need a new investigation into 911?

Cause the ones i've seen are sure above 2%.  Hell, Sarah Palin and Obama have both said they support a second investigation.  That's all most people want.

It's not the type of investigation you think they want. They want an investigation to ensure this type of an attack doesn't happen again. You want to know if the Gov't blew up the Pentagon and the WTC. Two different viewpoints.

[240 is Back]

shit dude, i dont have time to watch these videos... you shoulda been here 5 years ago when this shit was actually discussed.

anyway, pop mech went on a radio interview and claimed that the fbi had DNA from all 18 hijackers, 24 hours after the attack - that's how they knew who they were.  Go find the 18 minute radio interview with the pop mech guys.  It was discussed here in depth.

They were asked how the dna was recovered from the towers which were still receiving water hoses at that point - how in the worl they were able to sort out DNA that fast... and they didn't have answers.

they're some non-credible fvcks, in my own opinion.  Find that interview and listen.  Now, I dont have time to argue point by point with anonymous engineers here... but if you listen to that 18 minute owning of the pop mech guys... i mean, they get cornered so many times, it's insane.  They made some of their shit up, plain and simple.

plus the eitor was mike chertoff's cousin...

so anyway, if you want to give them credit, at least here them caught in lies in that radio interview.  good times.

[12secGT]

thanks man.

a new investigation would clear that up.  Pearl harbor had 4 investigations.  I'm sure we'll see another for 911 eventually.

I'm for 100 investigations if it makes us safer. I don't want a $ spent on conspiracy theories.

[Fury]

So his whole argument is built on things like the FBI saying something 24 hours after the event took place? Because, you know, the FBI and other government agencies wouldn't lie to save face or calm down the public, etc, etc.  

I guess they need anything to hang onto.

And coming into a thread about 9/11, logging a dozen posts in said thread and then claiming to not have time to watch a 4 minute video is nothing but a cop out.

[tonymctones]

shit dude, i dont have time to watch these videos... you shoulda been here 5 years ago when this shit was actually discussed.

anyway, pop mech went on a radio interview and claimed that the fbi had DNA from all 18 hijackers, 24 hours after the attack - that's how they knew who they were.  Go find the 18 minute radio interview with the pop mech guys.  It was discussed here in depth.

They were asked how the dna was recovered from the towers which were still receiving water hoses at that point - how in the worl they were able to sort out DNA that fast... and they didn't have answers.

they're some non-credible fvcks, in my own opinion.  Find that interview and listen.  Now, I dont have time to argue point by point with anonymous engineers here... but if you listen to that 18 minute owning of the pop mech guys... i mean, they get cornered so many times, it's insane.  They made some of their shit up, plain and simple.

plus the eitor was mike chertoff's cousin...

so anyway, if you want to give them credit, at least here them caught in lies in that radio interview.  good times.

so they are on the list?

and what of the liveleak video?

[Soul Crusher]

Yup.  240 -watch the two videos.  

you have enough time to watch MSNBC all day then you have 15 minutes to watch these two videos.