I'm not saying these weren't great men, they are but like i said we have a tendency to look back on things with more reverence. It's why shit*y bands from the 60's and 70's are 'cool' with college kids because you know "music was music back then not like it is now". Same thing with these great gentleman, we overlook the leaders and 'men' of today and think things used to be so much better, men so much stronger etc.