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« Reply #475 on: July 07, 2011, 09:09:34 PM »

Child pornography found on Assistant U.S. Attorney’s computer
The Daily Caller ^ | 7 Jul 2011 | Caroline May
Posted on July 7, 2011 6:22:41 PM EDT by mandaladon

Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder Thursday requesting an explanation as to why the Justice Department declined to file charges against a federal prosecutor with child pornography found on his work computer.

The finding against the Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) was made by the Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General (OIG).

According to the Inspector General’s report, the AUSA admitted to spending a significant amount of time each day viewing porn at work.

“The OIG conducted an investigation concerning allegations that an AUSA was using his government computer to view inappropriate material on his government computer,” the Grassley letter quoted from the OIG report. “The investigation determined that the AUSA routinely viewed adult content during official duty hours, and that there was at least one image of child pornography recovered on the AUSA’s government computer. The AUSA acknowledged that he had spent a significant amount of time each day viewing pornography.”

Grassley further questioned why the department kept employing the individual for at least two months following the report; what types of cases this AUSA prosecuted; the status of the individual’s pension; and what types of Internet filters the Department now uses.

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« Reply #476 on: July 08, 2011, 01:21:39 AM »

I think your opinion is ridiculous on this point.... but you're welcome to it.

I share his opinion
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« Reply #477 on: July 08, 2011, 01:22:16 AM »

Thanks for sharing your opinion of cops. Fortunately your opinion is in the small minority.

Not that small i support it to for 70% of the cops out there its spot on
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« Reply #478 on: July 08, 2011, 10:27:24 AM »

BSO: TSA Worker Steals iPad, Electronics From Luggage
Baggage Screener Accused Of Stealing Electronics, Selling Them Online

POSTED: Thursday, July 7, 2011
UPDATED: 10:21 am EDT July 8, 2011


 
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- A Transportation Security Administration worker is accused of stealing from the luggage of travelers at Fort Lauderdale - Hollywood International Airport Monday.

Broward Sheriff's Deputies said a Continental Airlines worker saw Nelson Santiago, 30, slip an iPad out of a suitcase and into his pants.

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That worker reported the theft to his supervisor and Santiago was arrested.

Deputies said Santiago is responsible for a string of thefts over the past six months. They said he told detectives that he stole computers, GPS devices and video cameras from luggage he was screening.

He then allegedly took pictures of the stolen goods with his cell phone, and posted them for sale online.

BSO said the items would often sell by the time Santiago's shift ended.

Detectives estimate Santiago stole about $50,000 worth of electronics. So far, he was charged with two counts of grand theft and has been released on bond.

Detectives are trying to locate possible victims, though most will never recover their property.

Santiago had worked as a TSA officer since January 2009, but no longer works with the agency.

Other News: Photos: The Many Faces Of Casey Anthony

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« Reply #479 on: July 09, 2011, 06:44:56 PM »

Thursday, July 7th, 2011


Oak Park, Michigan:

Their front yard was torn up after replacing a sewer line, so instead of replacing the dirt with grass, one Oak Park woman put in a vegetable garden and now the city is seeing green.

The list goes on: fresh basil, cabbage, carrots, tomatoes, cumbers and more all filling five large planter boxes that fill the Bass family’s front yard.

Julie Bass says, “We thought we’re minding our own business, doing something not ostentatious and certainly not obnoxious or nothing that is a blight on the neighborhood, so we didn’t think people would care very much.”

But some cared very much and called the city. The city then sent out code enforcement.

“They warned us at first that we had to move the vegetables from the front, that no vegetables were allowed in the front yard. We didn’t move them because we didn’t think we were doing anything wrong, even according to city code we didn’t think we were doing anything wrong. So they ticketed us and charged me with a misdemeanor,” Bass said . . .

City code says that all unpaved portions of the site shall be planted with grass or ground cover or shrubbery or other suitable live plant material. Tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers are what Basses see as suitable.

However, Oak Park’s Planning and Technology Director Kevin Rulkowski says the city disagrees. He says, “If you look at the dictionary, suitable means common. You can look all throughout the city and you’ll never find another vegetable garden that consumes the entire front yard.”

So what is suitable? From another local news report:

 . . .  we asked Rulkowski why it’s not suitable.

“If you look at the definition of what suitable is in Webster’s dictionary, it will say common. So, if you look around and you look in any other community, what’s common to a front yard is a nice, grass yard with beautiful trees and bushes and flowers,” he said.

God forbid your yard doesn’t include beautiful trees, bushes and flowers. It’s your job, Oak Park citizens, to give Kevin Rulkowski pretty things to look at. According to Bass’s blog, she’s demanding her right to a jury trial. So the city plans to throw the book at her.

our attorney spoke to the prosecutor today. (for the record, my crush on him is totally finished after today.)

his position: they are going to take this all the way.

officially, this means i am facing 93 days in jail if they win.

no joke.
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« Reply #480 on: July 10, 2011, 04:09:22 AM »

Bump.... I understand Agnostic may have missed it the first time while he was out saving the citizens of Austin from themselves.

Probably out with some collegues shooting dogs or some people who pose no risk at all but somehow Agnostic felt "threatened"

Funny how these trained professionals feels threatened when they can get away with shooting something

Weird they never get threatened by someone who fires back

Fucking cowards
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« Reply #481 on: July 10, 2011, 01:43:00 PM »

Officials identified 1 out of every 17 Denver police officers as having serious discipline issues
Pajamas Media ^ | 0710/2011 | Pajamas Media
Posted on July 10, 2011 5:16:02 PM EDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

“City officials have identified one out of every 17 Denver police officers as having discipline issues serious enough that their courtroom testimony may be suspect.”

Denver’s Police Department has been stupidly run and marginally corrupt — not as bad as Chicago perhaps — as long as I can remember, so much so that the city more or less has a budget item in the millions of dollars every year for settlements with people unjustifiably killed or wounded by police. (After a real surge in those cases, the City of Denver hired a new Director of Public Safety who has been firing some bad eggs … so of course now the police union is lobbying to fire him.) In this case, the Denver PD is required to notify defense attorneys of any possibly important facts; when they have a cop who is one of these, the Denver PD sends a notice, quote:

“The District Attorney has received notice that this officer has been subject to an administrative finding that may or may not prove relevant if he or she testifies in a criminal matter. Information regarding this administrative proceeding should be obtained through the Denver Police Department’s Civil Liabilities Bureau.”

When the defense attorneys try to find out what the issue is, they’re often told those are personnel records, and thus cannot be released.

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« Reply #482 on: July 10, 2011, 01:44:29 PM »

http://www.injusticeeverywhere.com





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« Reply #483 on: July 10, 2011, 05:53:53 PM »

I can go through the thread and pull out specific pieces, but I don't really like to spend the time doing that.

And I could show you were wrong but if you don't have the time, I don't have the time to post them, that's cool

I don't find it worthwhile and if I make a point, such as your defensive nature against the media, the constant position of the "police policing themselves" even when it's quite obvious it's not, and your position in threads about how your rights to do certain things (such as point a gun at me) are much more valid than my right to defend myself, then I'm pretty sure that even quotations to that effect (which are all there) certainly won't matter to you, so why bother?

The above are  your reasons you don't want to post examples. No response required. I don't agree with your reasons, but we already knew that.

You like your job. You think you do a fantastic job at it... Well, good. I'm happy for you.

Thanks. I love most aspects of my job, dislike others. I'm pretty good at it, not  the best but above average  

Here's some nice statistics for you... Look them up if you don't believe it.

Currently 1 dollar for every 15 dollars in tax money is spent on corrections AND while the US population has grown by less than 33% in the past 25 years, the incarceration rate has risen by 400%.

Don't doubt it. Not a fan of a multitude of laws we have on the books. But then I'm not a fan of people who beat up or shoot or rob other people. I'll take your numbers at face value for the sake of the argument.  


In the Soviet Union, during the height of Stalin, Stalin had incarcerated 20 people per 100,000 in the Gulags for NON-VIOLENT crime. Today, in the FREE democracy of the United States of America, we incarcerate 19.7 per 100,000 for (again) NON-VIOLENT crime.

Again, for the sake of argument I'll take your numbers at face value. Personally, I am not in favor of incarceration for most drug offenses, but I'd like to see the guy who rips off the old lady out of her life savings with bogus construction scams get a few years in the slammer.  

I think your job is fascist and brings no real value to society at large.

I think you would be hard pressed to arrest bank robbers, rapists, aggravated assault suspects, burglary suspects etc on your own or control traffic, work accidents, investigate child abuse, sexual assaults, forgeries, thefts and other various crimes without us. Who would respond to 911 calls?  

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« Reply #484 on: July 11, 2011, 06:21:11 PM »

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'State of emergency' in 'Nazi'-cop town
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 10, 2011 | July 10, 2011
Posted on July 11, 2011 10:17:08 PM EDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Arizona town that's become a YouTube sensation for its police department hauling away a woman speaking at a town-hall meeting declared a state of emergency this afternoon, leaving many local residents in fear of what officers dressed in full riot gear might do.

Jennifer "Jade" Jones, 45, the woman forcibly removed by police from a recent public meeting in Quartzsite, Ariz., despite the vocal objections of the mayor, says an illegal secret meeting was held today with the public locked out of the building.

"About noon today, the town council, at the request of the police chief, declared an official state of emergency," Jones said online. "Please help!"

The Arizona Republic reported the emergency meeting was held "to beef up security after receiving death threats."

Jones told WND there's actually no emergency of any kind, as it's a peaceful Sunday with people attending church; but in the wake of a WND report which exposed allegations of wrongdoing by local government officials, the town council and police convened an unpublicized meeting to declare an emergency for their own protection.

"Obviously it has put a fear into them, as they realize, 'Oh my God, everyone's looking at us now,'" she said. "There's been no incident to warrant this. They did this to protect themselves. The people are in danger."

She says local residents have no idea what may be coming next.

"They've got their tactical gear on, the police chief and his sergeant," Jones said. "I don't know what that means. I need to get the word out in case they come here. I am very concerned for my safety. We're two hours from Phoenix, out in the middle of nowhere. A lot of things can go wrong before someone gets here."

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« Reply #485 on: July 11, 2011, 06:24:53 PM »

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State Employees Caught Stealing Welfare Benefits
News Channel 5 ^ | 07/11/2011 | News Channel 5
Posted on July 11, 2011 9:29:15 PM EDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

It's the state agency responsible for Tennessee Welfare programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, formerly called Food Stamps and Families First.

But a NewsChannel 5 investigation discovered employees at the Department of Human Services illegally taking benefits for themselves.

Our investigation revealed a series of cases in just the last year that have embarrassed the department.

We found employees fired, even convicted of food stamp fraud and welfare fraud.

But what may be equally surprising is that more than ten percent of the employees working at DHS actually qualify for welfare programs their department oversees.

In just the last year, DHS has fired seven employees in connection with welfare fraud investigations and at least two others for taking cash meant for flood victims.

"For our employees to violate the public trust like this is just despicable," said Alan Hall, Inspector General for the Department of Human Services.

His department is responsible for finding fraud and abuse. Investigators discovered employees ripping off the program as part of separate schemes.

"It's embarrassing to prosecute your own employees for fraud and theft," Hall said.

Many of the cases involve the use of Electronic Benefit Cards or EBT cards.

They work like debit cards, and they are the way the state provides money to buy food or even cash to Tennessee citizens who qualify for assistance.

Last year surveillance cameras at a Nashville store caught DHS employee Leslie Alexander using an EBT card to buy items. The problem is the card wasn't hers.

Investigators say she used her position at DHS to set up fake EBT accounts.

She then gave EBT cards to her friends. Investigators say they stole tens of thousands of dollars.

Alexander was convicted and sentenced to 12 years. Much of her sentence will be suspended and she will be on probation.

But she is not alone.

Joe Cloyd worked as an eligibility counselor at the DHS office in Wilson County.

He's accused of taking someone else's EBT card and withdrawing money for himself.

NewsChannel 5 Investigates asked him, "Why were you using this EBT card inappropriately?"

Cloyd responded, "Well I won't have the time, but it was not so black and white."

He now faces criminal charges and admits he's repaying money to the state.

DHS Inspector General Alan Hall said, "He took benefits entitled to someone else who needed them at the time and took them for himself."

Documents show DHS has prosecuted four employees in the past year.

Leslie Alexander was convicted.

Joe Cloyd's case is still pending.

Alisa Harrison was an eligibility counselor charged with using a card that wasn't hers.

And Felisa Trotter was convicted for illegally getting food stamp benefits.

Investigators proved that she and her husband lied -- claiming they weren't married, which enabled her to qualify for benefits.

Ironically, Trotter worked in the appeals division and heard from people doing the same thing.

But what may be most surprising is that 593 DHS employees are currently receiving food stamp benefits.

That's more than ten percent of all the employees in the department.

The starting salary for an eligibility counselor is just over $26,500 a year. Eligibility Clerks make as little as 17,500 according to an ad for an open position on the state website.

"When you know the rules very well, if you're not honest, you start thinking about how to break the rules," Hall said.

Hall promises the department is stepping up efforts to find fraud and says no employee will get away with it for long.

"I believe they're the rare occurrences, because all of our employees want to do the right thing," Hall said.

The department has a welfare fraud hotline. The number is 1-800-241-2629.

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« Reply #486 on: July 11, 2011, 06:30:20 PM »

Former Newark police officer says he was fired after blowing whistle on cops
The Star-Ledger ^ | 07/11/2011 | James Queally/The Star-Ledger
Posted on July 11, 2011 2:03:59 PM EDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

A former Newark police officer says he was fired for telling department investigators about a group of detectives accused of stealing money from drug dealers in 2007, according to a civil lawsuit filed last month.

Eugene Collins, 42, says he was harassed and run out of the department after he told internal affairs investigators when an unknown man accused Collins’ former partner, Samad Washington, and several other officers of keeping confiscated drug money.

The information given to internal affairs, he said, resulted in his being fired on charges of neglect of duty and conduct unbecoming an officer. His lawsuit, filed in Superior Court in Newark, seeks damages.

In the lawsuit, Collins says the man approached him in March 2007 and claimed Washington had stolen $71,000 in drug money during an arrest. Both officers were detectives and periodically were partnered.

Collins told his ex-partner about the allegation, according to the suit, but when Washington asked him to file a report without mentioning the money, Collins refused.

Two weeks later, internal affairs Detective Antonio Domingues approached Collins to question him about a report Washington filed, detailing Collins’ conversation with the unknown man who "threatened Washington’s livelihood and members of his family," according to the suit.

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« Reply #487 on: July 12, 2011, 08:42:37 AM »

Collins may very well be telling the absolute truth.

I'll tell you about another real life story of alleged firing for wrongful reasons. Around 2005 a 42 yr old cadet graduated our academy class. He was a self proclaimed minister, former AMWAY salesman and satellite installer. He had issues with his first Field Training period. He could not take constructive criticism, had an excuse for everything and was found to have lied in at least one report. In an effort to give him another opportunity (I would have sought his termination when he lied) he was transferred into my command and given a new set of trainers and a fresh opportunity. He again failed with officer safety and integrity issues. After 4 months and no progress, including an angry outburst when his unsafe response to a robbery was critiqued he was terminated.

We had 3 videos of his unsafe actions and 5 inches of documenation on his lack of progress and safety issues as well as a pyschological report stating he was untrainable for policing.

He went to the local Chronicle which by the way, hates police and said he was fired because he is Christian. They disregarded that 95% of the department are Christians, the Commander who chaired his termination board was also a minister, etc etc and they ran with the story because they could not pass up an opportunity to bash the department. He also said he was fired because he refused to taser an old man. They titled the article "God Vs. Taser" (you can look it up) and ran the article.

Our policy at the time was not to comment on something under litigation so for a long time I had to sit quietly while he ran his mouth lying about the facts. Jordon Smith, the author of the article printed all his claims as truth.

It finally went to federal court where 12 jurors listened for 5 days. His side presented their case, our side presented ours. We showed where he lied about being a minister, about having a following of thousands (he included his amway distributors as his church goers) about graduating the academy "with honors" and about lying on his income taxes as well as reports.

The jurors took about an hour to come to a verdict. After it was all said and done, they said they knew he was lying from the first day on...

Jordon Smith, the original author attended 4 hrs of the entire trial..never followed up on my offer to interview us now that we could talk about it. What she did was run another article saying how the jury was wrong and we got away with firing a great officer because he was god fearing and would'nt taser old men with heart conditions. The old man by the way was about 50 yrs old and 6' 240 lbs. He was just scared and wouldn't engage when the other officer was trying to arrest him for beating his wife.

So I tend to read articles like that with a grain of salt until both sides have a chance to present their case.       
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« Reply #488 on: July 12, 2011, 08:51:03 AM »

Litigiation?   WTF.  No wonder we are so screwed!  Even though I am a lawyer - I am sickened by many of the cases that make it to court without getting dismissed out right. 
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« Reply #489 on: July 12, 2011, 08:53:44 AM »

Litigiation?   WTF.  No wonder we are so screwed!  Even though I am a lawyer - I am sickened by many of the cases that make it to court without getting dismissed out right. 

Me too. We moved for summary judgement but the Judge said something to the effect of because he claims he was fired due to religious beliefs, he deserves a trial. We had ample evidence to show he was fired for anything but religious beliefs.. but to no avail..
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« Reply #490 on: July 12, 2011, 08:55:28 AM »

Me too. We moved for summary judgement but the Judge said something to the effect of because he claims he was fired due to religious beliefs, he deserves a trial. We had ample evidence to show he was fired for anything but religious beliefs.. but to no avail..

Absurd what goes on in the legal system.   

I favor a system now requiring some level of mediation before litigation at this point.  the cost to the taxpayer for this craziness is beyond insane.   
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« Reply #491 on: July 14, 2011, 07:33:29 PM »

Sheriff's Deputy Kills Former NFL Player Outside a Convenience Store
Reason.com ^ | July 12, 2011 | Jacob Sullum
Posted on July 14, 2011 11:46:12 PM EDT by yup2394871293

On Sunday a Kern County, California, sheriff's deputy shot and killed David Lee "Deacon" Turner, a 56-year-old former running back for the Cincinnati Bengals, outside a convenience store in Bakersfield. Police questioned Turner, who was coming out of the store with his 19-year-old son, while investigating reports of teenagers asking adults to buy them alcohol and cigarettes. The Kern County Sheriff's Office says Deputy Wesley Kraft fired twice at Turner after the former football player hit Deputy Aaron Nadal over the head with a bag containing two 24-ounce cans of beer. Turner's son offered a strikingly different account:

Turner's son was too shaken to speak with Eyewitness News on Sunday, but he told his sister what he witnessed.

"They asked my dad if he was the person buying alcohol for underage youth," Jerrica Cor-Dova said.


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« Reply #492 on: July 15, 2011, 08:48:57 AM »

A former pro football player swinging a bag with 2 24 oz cans of beer at my head... sounds dangerous
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« Reply #493 on: July 15, 2011, 08:54:11 AM »

A former pro football player swinging a bag with 2 24 oz cans of beer at my head... sounds dangerous

Yeah, too bad most cops are pussies without the badge and gun and are woefully inept at unarmed self defense and disarming anyone without killing them. 

I get cops in my self defense class all the time, most are really unable to handle themselves in unarmed combat situations.   
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« Reply #494 on: July 15, 2011, 08:58:53 AM »

Yeah, too bad most cops are pussies without the badge and gun and are woefully inept at unarmed self defense and disarming anyone without killing them. 

I get cops in my self defense class all the time, most are really unable to handle themselves in unarmed combat situations.   

Sure wish people realized that before taking swings at them.. bad things can happen. What with us being pussies and all..
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« Reply #495 on: July 15, 2011, 09:00:32 AM »

Sure wish people realized that before taking swings at them.. bad things can happen. What with us being pussies and all..


you are suppoed to be trained for that and be able to deal with that.  You signed up for the job knowing what it entails. 

If you can't disarm someone with a beer can without killing them, quit and get another job or seek additional training. 
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« Reply #496 on: July 15, 2011, 09:09:16 AM »

you are suppoed to be trained for that and be able to deal with that.  You signed up for the job knowing what it entails. 

If you can't disarm someone with a beer can without killing them, quit and get another job or seek additional training. 

Spoken like a guy who's only experience with violence is in a self defense class where fake guns miraculously come out of their hands, rubber knives are easily taken away, and no one is swinging a bag containing metal weights at your head. It says "after he was struck".. you need to consider he was likely dazed, big man may have been continuing the attack, officer felt he was in grave danger, might be passing out..

Don't know, it may be ruled a bad shooting. It may be ruled a good shooting. I wasn't there, haven't read the investigation or seen the video. But guys like you crack me up with your self defense class talk.
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« Reply #497 on: July 15, 2011, 09:12:34 AM »

Spoken like a guy who's only experience with violence is in a self defense class where fake guns miraculously come out of their hands, rubber knives are easily taken away, and no one is swinging a bag containing metal weights at your head. It says "after he was struck".. you need to consider he was likely dazed, big man may have been continuing the attack, officer felt he was in grave danger, might be passing out..

Don't know, it may be ruled a bad shooting. It may be ruled a good shooting. I wasn't there, haven't read the investigation or seen the video. But guys like you crack me up with your self defense class talk.



Dont' they give you tazers, pepper spray, batons, etc? 
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Dont' they give you tazers, pepper spray, batons, etc? 

Yep... and we'll use them if given a chance.
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« Reply #499 on: July 15, 2011, 09:20:22 AM »

Yep... and we'll use them if given a chance.

Or a gun if its easier to shoot someone.    Grin
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