Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf

[Fury]

What's the matter? Is Obama and his supporters too thin skinned for criticism?

That goes without saying.

[OzmO]

What is he supposed to plug it himself?

BIG Fvkcing deal.  He has a country to run, running over to the gulf is a meaning less as talking about it in Kentucky.  He's handling it the way he thinks he should.


This President is an open target for legitimate criticisms.  There's no need for lame ass pokes like this.

[drkaje]

Were people expecting Bush to personally rebuild peoples' homes, hand out new clothes, medicine, and food for the Katrina victims? It seemed that is the case by the unwarranted criticism hurled at Bush. Bush's administration was even accused of blowing up levees.

What's the matter? Is Obama and his supporters too thin skinned for criticism?

I'm not a supporter but believe criticism should be logical or at the very least reasonable. Bitching about someone not showing up who couldn't do a thing other than make a speech to be dissected and criticized is silly.

Bush could have gone to at least comfort a few American citizens or encourage support workers. I also see how presidential security needs and people wanting to see him would have taken away vital resources needed to find survivors make valid arguments for not going.

What was President Obama supposed to do? Talk to fish, wipe oil off ducks or rocks? It's just silly to think he's supposed to be everywhere. if he were an expert in oil spill clean up or the former head of FEMA it would make sense but just showing up to make speeches is a waste of time and money.

[Danny]

So let me get this logic right.  When he's on tv all the time you criticize him, when not on the tv all the time like many of you want, you still criticize him. 

If obama went to the gulf you would all be asking what he's doing there saying it's pandering.  The logic some of you use is equal to a round hole and square peg.  it just doesn't fit. 

I'll play....I bet that if he came out and took control of the BP spill officially, by sending some government forces to try to stop it, in a matter of minutes some people would have started to scream their head off that he's nationalizing Big Oil. On the other hand everybody is complaining that he's not doing enough.....now which one is it? They need to make up their minds. 

[Dos Equis]

What is he supposed to plug it himself?

BIG Fvkcing deal.  He has a country to run, running over to the gulf is a meaning less as talking about it in Kentucky.  He's handling it the way he thinks he should.


This President is an open target for legitimate criticisms.  There's no need for lame ass pokes like this.

You could say that about every natural disaster, terrorist attack, etc. 

[Coach is Back!]

Well it's not too late for him to actually take some much needed and long overdue action.

He now needs to parachute onto the Deepwater Horizon, as they unfurl a banner saying "Mission Accomplished"

 

Haven't been on here in a while.....I can see you're still as delusional as ever.

[drkaje]

You could say that about every natural disaster, terrorist attack, etc. 

If Bush went to the gulf and huffed and puffed (like The Big Bad Wolf)* against the Katrina people would have still complained.

* Yes, BB. I actually went there, LOL!

Maybe that's the key!!! The President should jump in the gulf and splash the oil towards our enemies.

[Fury]

For all the people shilling for Obama, he just admitted that it's his responsibility. He's busy trying to show us that the govt. is calling the shots and not BP. How embarrassing that people even have to question whether the President of the United States or a foreign oil company is calling the shots on the worst oil spill in US history.

"I take responsibility. It is my job to make sure that everything is done to shut this down," Obama declared at a news conference in the East Room of the White House."

LOL!

[OzmO]

You could say that about every natural disaster, terrorist attack, etc. 

Exactly, there's plenty of other things to criticize him for.

[Dos Equis]

If Bush went to the gulf and huffed and puffed (like The Big Bad Wolf)* against the Katrina people would have still complained.

* Yes, BB. I actually went there, LOL!

Maybe that's the key!!! The President should jump in the gulf and splash the oil towards our enemies.

You are correct.  People will always complain.  That shouldn't impact whether a leader does the right thing though.    

[Fury]

30 days later, 11+ million gallons of spilled oil and a still uncapped well and it’s good to be reassured that Obama is in control of the situation! He's accepting responsibility for this massive failure but he shouldn't be criticized.  

[OzmO]

For all the people shilling for Obama, he just admitted that it's his responsibility. He's busy trying to show us that the govt. is calling the shots and not BP. How embarrassing that people even have to question whether the President of the United States or a foreign oil company is calling the shots on the worst oil spill in US history.

"I take responsibility. It is my job to make sure that everything is done to shut this down," Obama declared at a news conference in the East Room of the White House."

LOL!

Not really,
The reporter asked the question because the "answer is news."    The longer it goes without being fixed the more questions will be asked.  That has nothing to do with Oblama or it being "embarrassing" other than how it realtes to it not being fixed yet and being the worse oil disaster in history



And just so we are clear,  he shouldn't be criticized for not being there.  WHICH IS THE TITLE OF THE THREAD.   That's stupid weak ass crap.

[Dos Equis]

Exactly, there's plenty of other things to criticize him for.

I'm actually critical of him over this.  Not a huge issue, but I do have a problem with it.  It's just good practice for the chief executive to make an appearance at the site, make a speech, try and make everyone feel good, reassure folks, etc.  That's partly why we almost always see presidents and governors visiting major disaster sites.  

[Fury]

Not really,
The reporter asked the question because the "answer is news."    The longer it goes without being fixed the more questions will be asked.  That has nothing to do with Oblama or it being "embarrassing" other than how it realtes to it not being fixed yet and being the worse oil disaster in history



And just so we are clear,  he shouldn't be criticized for not being there.  That's stupid weak ass crap.

The reporter asked the question and Obama answered it because many people were questioning it and the rumblings are getting louder, and for good reason. 30 days later, 11+ million gallons of spilled oil and a still uncapped well. Good to know he's in control. In control of the worst oil spill in the history of this country.  

And I couldn't care less as to whether or not he's down there. That has nothing to do with my gripe.



Ironic that he finally steps up and admits responsibility 30 days after the initial incident and when the well looks like it will finally get capped.

[OzmO]

I'm actually critical of him over this.  Not a huge issue, but I do have a problem with it.  It's just good practice for the chief executive to make an appearance at the site, make a speech, try and make everyone feel good, reassure folks, etc.  That's partly why we almost always see presidents and governors visiting major disaster sites.  

I believe it to be petty.  If he goes down there some time in the next 2 weeks does that alleviate your concerns?

[OzmO]

The reporter asked the question and Obama answered it because many people were questioning it and the rumblings are getting louder, and for good reason. 30 days later, 11+ million gallons of spilled oil and a still uncapped well. Good to know he's in control. In control of the worst oil spill in the history of this country.  

And I couldn't care less as to whether or not he's down there. That has nothing to do with my gripe.



Ironic that he finally steps up and admits responsibility 30 days after the initial incident and when the well looks like it will finally get capped.

I think if there would have been a large loss of life he'd be down there already. 

One thing is, I am not too surprised about him not going down there already, his advisors suck ass.  We got to remember these are from the same people who gave the British Ambassador a gift of DVD's.   It's like he appointed a bunch of rookies to advise him on political moves like this.

But what is your core gripe?

[Dos Equis]

I believe it to be petty.  If he goes down there some time in the next 2 weeks does that alleviate your concerns?

It would eliminate my criticism of him not visiting the site.  But I'm not losing any sleep over it. 

[pro nitrousADRL]

i think its funny that obama said  ( the gulf spill is our top priority)  really??  Is that why they are writing  financial reform bills and cheating them through congress at all hours of the night and pledging to have it signed  by obama on july 4th.    wow  real priority??

[Fury]

I think if there would have been a large loss of life he'd be down there already. 

One thing is, I am not too surprised about him not going down there already, his advisors suck ass.  We got to remember these are from the same people who gave the British Ambassador a gift of DVD's.   It's like he appointed a bunch of rookies to advise him on political moves like this.

But what is your core gripe?

My core gripe is that he turned control of a catastrophic national disaster that threatens the well-being of millions of American citizens over to a shady, foreign oil company and disappeared from the public view for 30 days and has now only come out of the woodwork because there's a chance the top kill will work. Should it not work, I bet he'll disappear again. Not only that, it took 30 days for him to admit responsibility. Meanwhile, 11+ million gallons of oil have poured into the Gulf of Mexico and the well is still uncapped. Stellar work at rectifying the situation! And now he's setting it up to try and claim responsibility for ending it after he spent 30 days doing nothing beyond ordering a report on the situation.  

Who gives a fuck as to whether or not he flew down there?

[dario73]

Bush could have gone to at least comfort a few American citizens or encourage support workers. I also see how presidential security needs and people wanting to see him would have taken away vital resources needed to find survivors make valid arguments for not going.

What was President Obama supposed to do? Talk to fish, wipe oil off ducks or rocks? It's just silly to think he's supposed to be everywhere. if he were an expert in oil spill clean up or the former head of FEMA it would make sense but just showing up to make speeches is a waste of time and money.

Bush did go. Four days after. Wow!! How dare Bush take so long? 4 days!!!  Yet, the socialist pig in the White House hasn't visited the site since this started over 30 days ago. All he needs to do is show up at the site or at the main BP center and acted like he is even concerned about the situation.

Again. The same measuring stick for Bush, should be used for Obama. It doesn't matter what they can or can't do in that situation. There was nothing Bush could do about Katrina but he was roasted for it. Why excuse Obama?

Now for Memorial Day, the failure of a president will not be visiting Arlington. Very Presidential of him.

[OzmO]

My core gripe is that he turned control of a catastrophic national disaster that threatens the well-being of millions of American citizens over to a shady, foreign oil company and disappeared from the public view for 30 days and has now only come out of the woodwork because there's a chance the top kill will work. Should it not work, I bet he'll disappear again. Not only that, it took 30 days for him to admit responsibility. Meanwhile, 11+ million gallons of oil have poured into the Gulf of Mexico and the well is still uncapped. Stellar work at rectifying the situation! And now he's setting it up to try and claim responsibility for ending it after he spent 30 days doing nothing beyond ordering a report on the situation.  

Who gives a fuck as to whether or not he flew down there?

When he said, its the top priority the first thing i thought of is that we are currently at war afghanistan and that trumps that oil spill any day.  Perhaps he is being a PR predator which all politicians are IMO.  But frankly, I'd prefer the government to maintain the role it has.  BP's should get sued and shredded from this.  They are responsible by law to fix this.  Not OBama.   From what i heard (2nd handed) BP earns 66 million a day and this spill is costing them 12 million and they have 17 bill in the bank. 

[Fury]

When he said, its the top priority the first thing i thought of is that we are currently at war afghanistan and that trumps that oil spill any day.  Perhaps he is being a PR predator which all politicians are IMO.  But frankly, I'd prefer the government to maintain the role it has.  BP's should get sued and shredded from this.  They are responsible by law to fix this.  Not OBama.   From what i heard (2nd handed) BP earns 66 million a day and this spill is costing them 12 million and they have 17 bill in the bank. 

Obama himself just admitted that he is responsible for this and has been responsible since day one. 

[OzmO]

Obama himself just admitted that he is responsible for this and has been responsible since day one. 

PR Speak,  so what?

[Fury]

PR Speak,  so what?

So you're saying that he's not responsible, in control or has anything to do with rectifying this disaster? That's good to know. Why he is President again?

Perhaps we can outsource the next hurricane to another foreign company. Perhaps some Iranian or Chinese company can be tasked with fixing it as it seems our govt. isn't capable of doing anything beyond pointing fingers and passing off control to foreign corporations.

[OzmO]

So you're saying that he's not responsible, in control or has anything to do with rectifying this disaster? That's good to know. Why he is President again?

Perhaps we can outsource the next hurricane to another foreign company. Perhaps some Iranian or Chinese company can be tasked with fixing it as it seems our govt. isn't capable of doing anything beyond pointing fingers and passing off control to foreign corporations.

No what I am saying is, is that he's a politician and when it comes to things like this they are are all whores about it.  So to take in too much of what he says or any politician says for face value is useless IMO.  What actions did he take from start to now?  That's all that matters IMO.   the rest is political fluff.