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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2010, 06:40:55 PM »
And maybe this is a convenient excuse.  Go to the gym and try to just do 200 pullups and let us know how it goes first, then you can talk about how easy it is to do 3300.  I'm assuming you work out now.  You said it would be easy to do 200 in 45 minutes, just give it a try and report back.
1stly, I never said it would be easy to do 200 in 45 min, please read, I said once you get accustom to the pullups, in theory you could do 200 in 45 minutes. Please learn reading comprehension.
Also, I have no want or desire to do it. Why should I, because you said to go do it? I firmly believe that you or Aerian could do it, there was a guy (was it Aerian) who posted a 500 pound bench light it was easy, I'm willing to bet that if 3300 dude saw that, that he would say "no way", but with training I believe he could achieve that, but that is not his goal, nor his desire to do so, and it would fit in with his training. The time spent on focusing for that "500 bench" could best be time spent doing other things. Let me ask a question. Do you think this guy is special, some sort of superman? And if so, does it really highlight one's own lack of willpower or inadequacies?

Also, there was no word on if he took breaks, and how he broke them up, and his height and weight, which has a lot to do with it. A lighter person would have a easier time in doing these than a 5'9-6'0 180-250 pound gym rat.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2010, 07:10:11 PM »

Are you still young?  Early 20s maybe?  If you care about bodybuilding in the slightest, doing 150 or 200 pullups (real ones) is about one of the best things you could do for back/bicep improvement.  Ontop of being a great real world exercise that can come in handy in many different ways.  So why not give it a try ?

I dont think you understand the difficulty of the task at hand.


 I have no doubt that they are hard, just a different kind of hard. High rep calisthenics suck for bodybuilding, and they won't give you  strength gains.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2010, 07:20:06 PM »
A lighter person would have a easier time in doing these than a 5'9-6'0 180-250 pound gym rat.

exactly. Body proportions play a huge role. It does not mean the big guy is weaker! I bet many strongmen couldn't do too many pullups. You think they have weak backs? lol

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2010, 08:22:55 PM »
Do you think this guy is special, some sort of superman? And if so, does it really highlight one's own lack of willpower or inadequacies?

Also, there was no word on if he took breaks, and how he broke them up, and his height and weight, which has a lot to do with it. A lighter person would have a easier time in doing these than a 5'9-6'0 180-250 pound gym rat.

Do I think he's superman?  No.  Do I think there is a strong genetic component to setting a world record in ANY physical endeavor?  You're damn right I do.    No amount of training or drugs is going to make Woody Allen bench 500lbs no matter how much positive thinking he does.  You saying anyone could work up to doing it is like saying if I want to bench 1000lbs, all I have to do is add 10 pounds a week to my bench for a little over a year until I get there.  That's why there are so many 1000lb benchers running around.  And what does it matter if the guy weighs 250 or 400 lbs?  According to you, its simple, you just get used to doing 200 an hour and then repeat it til you get to 3300.  Like you said, lots of people could do it.  And of course he took breaks.  Who cares?  The longer you take a break, the less time you have to actually do the pullups.  You keep repeating that like taking a break doesn't mean he did 3300 in 24 hours.  You want to talk about my reading comprehension, how about your math skills?  You know, math, the stuff you use to figure out that if someone takes a break, they have less time to do the pullups. 

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2010, 08:44:10 PM »
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Do I think he's superman?  No.  Do I think there is a strong genetic component to setting a world record in ANY physical endeavor?  You're damn right I do.    No amount of training or drugs is going to make Woody Allen bench 500lbs no matter how much positive thinking he does.  You saying anyone could work up to doing it is like saying if I want to bench 1000lbs, all I have to do is add 10 pounds a week to my bench for a little over a year until I get there.  That's why there are so many 1000lb benchers running around.  And what does it matter if the guy weighs 250 or 400 lbs?  According to you, its simple, you just get used to doing 200 an hour and then repeat it til you get to 3300.  Like you said, lots of people could do it.  And of course he took breaks.  Who cares?  The longer you take a break, the less time you have to actually do the pullups.  You keep repeating that like taking a break doesn't mean he did 3300 in 24 hours.  You want to talk about my reading comprehension, how about your math skills?  You know, math, the stuff you use to figure out that if someone takes a break, they have less time
to do the pullups. 
I give up, especially when you said what difference the
person's weight is.
Due to the fact that its well known that a lot of bbers can't do
that many pullups due to their weight.
But here is food for thought, last time I check which was a while
 ago, a human bone can take 10,000 pounds of pressure...

Also, yrs ago no one thought that someone could bench 500 raw, tons of people do it now.

And, back in the 1920s, 25 miles an hour was deemed as too
fast for a automobile...the Bugatti Veyron does 255.
Why am I listing these, well because it's called progression and pushing the envelope. As long as there is someone willing to do it, it will get done, one way or another.
Now, your example of a 1000 pound bench is extreme, and you are grasping at straws now, for someone of his weight now to do that. But, of course the Bench Press record is 1075 pounds, shirted, so someone did it


Also, math has a lot to do with it, but also the speed of reps as well.

You choose not to take in such variables, yet take everything at face value. Once you start to look into things and take, body mass, height, age, speed of reps, breaks, willpower, you start to understand that yes the feat was great, but can be done. You are like those Bible Thumpers that want to believe soo badly that the story of Baby Jesus is the exact way it is depicted no matter that there are two contradicting versions, that all forms of common sense is thrown out the window.
And to argue with such, I will not do. You keep believing in what you believe...

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2010, 09:34:21 PM »
Do I think he's superman?  No.  Do I think there is a strong genetic component to setting a world record in ANY physical endeavor?  You're damn right I do.    No amount of training or drugs is going to make Woody Allen bench 500lbs no matter how much positive thinking he does.  You saying anyone could work up to doing it is like saying if I want to bench 1000lbs, all I have to do is add 10 pounds a week to my bench for a little over a year until I get there.  That's why there are so many 1000lb benchers running around.  And what does it matter if the guy weighs 250 or 400 lbs?  According to you, its simple, you just get used to doing 200 an hour and then repeat it til you get to 3300.  Like you said, lots of people could do it.  And of course he took breaks.  Who cares?  The longer you take a break, the less time you have to actually do the pullups.  You keep repeating that like taking a break doesn't mean he did 3300 in 24 hours.  You want to talk about my reading comprehension, how about your math skills?  You know, math, the stuff you use to figure out that if someone takes a break, they have less time to do the pullups. 

I had trouble doing 4 when I was 260ish.. when I was 210 I could do 2 sets of 15

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2010, 10:19:27 PM »
I have no doubt that they are hard, just a different kind of hard. High rep calisthenics suck for bodybuilding, and they won't give you  strength gains.

i used to agree with this but this day and age, i think really any type of muscle stimulation that causes you to really fatigue a muscle, can help with building strength and muscle.  Granted at any competition level it changes all of that.

just from doing my pull ups, my grips, deads, and power cleans, have all gone up.  Pullups are one of the single best things any individual can do, for overall healthy and physique building.
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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2010, 10:38:40 PM »
i used to agree with this but this day and age, i think really any type of muscle stimulation that causes you to really fatigue a muscle, can help with building strength and muscle.  Granted at any competition level it changes all of that.

just from doing my pull ups, my grips, deads, and power cleans, have all gone up.  Pullups are one of the single best things any individual can do, for overall healthy and physique building.
You are going to have to progressively add weight. Because it just becomes redundant. If not, then this dude would be big as hell

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2010, 12:13:39 AM »
200 pull ups in 45 ... I can do that
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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2010, 05:14:29 AM »
i used to agree with this but this day and age, i think really any type of muscle stimulation that causes you to really fatigue a muscle, can help with building strength and muscle.  Granted at any competition level it changes all of that.

just from doing my pull ups, my grips, deads, and power cleans, have all gone up.  Pullups are one of the single best things any individual can do, for overall healthy and physique building.

Knew a martial artist, all he did was squat - bodyweight squats. He could do several thousand per day. He had great endurance and could school me for time. I asked him what he could do with a loaded barbell on his back, he didn't know cause he didn't do them so we went to my basement and tried it out. The guy couldn't do a full rep with 135!

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2010, 05:22:41 AM »
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I give up, especially when you said what difference the
person's weight is.
Due to the fact that its well known that a lot of bbers can't do
that many pullups due to their weight.
.......

Now, your example of a 1000 pound bench is extreme, and you are grasping at straws now, for someone of his weight now to do that. But, of course the Bench Press record is 1075 pounds, shirted, so someone did it


Also, math has a lot to do with it, but also the speed of reps as well.

You choose not to take in such variables, yet take everything at face value. Once you start to look into things and take, body mass, height, age, speed of reps, breaks, willpower, you start to understand that yes the feat was great, but can be done. You are like those Bible Thumpers that want to believe soo badly that the story of Baby Jesus is the exact way it is depicted no matter that there are two contradicting versions, that all forms of common sense is thrown out the window.
And to argue with such, I will not do. You keep believing in what you believe...

I guess you are no better at sarcasm than you are at math.  Of course, bodyweight matters in doing pullups.  I was pointing out how ridiculous it is when you say anyone could do it if they just believe they can.  Like I said, there is a huge genetic component to setting a world record in any physical endeavor.

Of course, the bench press example is extreme.  Sort of like doing 3376 pullups.  Again, I made the example to point out how ridiculous it is to say anyone can do it.

Your last paragraph is the silliest of all.  You have been the one saying all along that anyone can do this, they just have to believe in themselves.  I have been saying, no, not everyone can do it.  Now you present the exact opposite argument.  I guess that is a good idea at this point when you are so clearly wrong about how easy this is and how anyone could train to do it.  Then you go off on another tangent about religion that has nothing to do with anything and is a horrible analogy.  

So which is it?  This is something that isn't that hard, a bunch of people from this board could do it, its just a matter of believing in yourself  OR bodyweight, age, genetics all matter and not only can not everyone do it, there are probably only a few people in the world that have any shot at this record no matter how much training they do.  You can't argue both sides of it.  Its also pretty stupid to keep saying you could do it easily if you just trained for it, you just don't want to.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2010, 05:40:52 AM »
I guess both of you is right in something.

Yes, genetic component is always there. I could never be a serious powerlifter, not with this very long arms and legs. My joints just get too much pressure.

Even so Parker is right in that you should always analyze things you heard. Something that first sounds like a wonder, might be just the result of good and systematic planing. You shouldn't just accept things, you should first think about them, observe the parts of the whole thing alone.

Will power is also a very important factor! Woody Allen with the right drugs, and the willingness to do it maybe could have been a national level body builder. who knows? He never ate right, never did any kind of weight training. But yes, he would have never made any world record in weightlifting. Thats where the genetic component kicks in.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2010, 06:38:38 AM »
   all this and guy still looks like shit, he better try hit next time. still number is very impressive, you gotta give him dat.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #63 on: June 14, 2010, 04:19:33 PM »
Knew a martial artist, all he did was squat - bodyweight squats. He could do several thousand per day. He had great endurance and could school me for time. I asked him what he could do with a loaded barbell on his back, he didn't know cause he didn't do them so we went to my basement and tried it out. The guy couldn't do a full rep with 135!

That's not a good example because squats unloaded and loaded are 2 completely different things.

Have you ever done 200 pull ups in any amount of time?  I do about 100-150 real pullups (all way down and up, and various hand grips) every back workout...

Once a week? Well, when we are talking about building endurance that's not even training in my opinion...has to be almost daily activity.

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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2010, 01:39:43 PM »
Most of you guys only like it cause he is a Navy Semon ;D
    haha he said semen,"beavis and butthead influenced post.
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Re: How the hell do you do 3300+ pull ups?
« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2010, 01:45:27 PM »
shut it u muppet
eat shit but all joking aside i was really just making the point that what the guy did was phenomonal by any stretch of the imagination, but for all his work he didn't look like one of the juiced up oiled thonged monsters almost everyone on here  loves. it's like the guys who would always break the sit-up record yet for all the thousands of sit-ups they did won't be able to show no visible abs. WHy is this inquiring minds want to know. ernie was my favorite muppet by the way.
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