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Pizza shop owners take state to federal court

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(NECN: Brian Burnell) - A Connecticut family is taking the state federal court. They say the state is taking the "family" out of family business and they want the state labor department to butt out.

Grand Apizza in Clinton, Connecticut is a family business but the state of Connecticut is, in a sense, trying to break up the family.  Mike and Migdalia Nuzzo own the place and usually their 3 children, ages 13, 11, and 8 are here, too, helping out.  Not tonight or for the foreseeable future because of an anonymous complaint to the state labor department that brought in an inspector who told Mike...


Mike Nuzzo, Grand Apizza:  "That you had child labor here."

Child Labor.  His children.

Mike Nuzzo, Grand Apizza:   "He told me that I couldn't have my children here with my wife helping us out."

Now understand.  Its not like the kids are pulling pizza's out of 600-degree ovens.  The 13-year-old helps in the kitchen while the younger ones are out in front.

Migdalia Nuzzo, Grand Apizza:    "They're not in any harms way.  My little one.  My little one comes here.  He helps us.  He clears tables off.  He greets the people.  Grabs menus,  "how many people?" Sits them down and the people love it.  Love it."

And who's going to watch out for them more than mom and dad?   Mike knows because its how he grew up... working in the family pizza restaurant.

Mike Nuzzo, Grand Apizza:   "My mother and father taught my 2 brothers and my sister about family, tradition, respect, integrity and hard work."  

Lessons he wants to pass down to his kids.  They've filed suit against the state, not for money.  They want the federal court to tell the state to stay out of their family life.  People in town are behind them including other business owners nearby who have done the same thing.

Michael Kamercia, Clinton CT Business Owner:    "My son was 12 years old when he worked at my dry cleaners and to have his son making pizza or spinning the dough.  I think its great.  It's a good family activity.  I mean this is the fabric of America.  This is what we're all about."

Donna Faulknor, Clinton CT Business Owner:    "Would you rather have your kids here with you at your family business or home by themselves?  I mean that's where they're going to get into more trouble.  They're not going to get into trouble here with you being here."

Brian Burnell, NECN:   "Its amazing as you talk to people about this story how many grew up the way Mike did, the way he's raising his family, frankly the way I did.  Working in a family business.  And that's the point that the Nuzzo's attorney is going to make to the federal court.  This isn't a business issue.  It's a family issue.  

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I honestly can't even comprehend the kind of bullshit I'm reading in the news.

People need to worry about themselves and their own families, and fuck the hell OFF!  >:(
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Unfucking real.  Our country is so screwed that the business owner even has to go to court over this crappola. 

My dad put my ass to work at 12 y/o digging holes, mixing cement,e tc. 

It was the best lesson I ever learned. 


CAN YOU LAZY LIBERALS GO TO EUROPE AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE ALREADY? 
 

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Unfucking real.  Our country is so screwed that the business owner even has to go to court over this crappola. 

My dad put my ass to work at 12 y/o digging holes, mixing cement,e tc. 

It was the best lesson I ever learned. 


CAN YOU LAZY LIBERALS GO TO EUROPE AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE ALREADY? 
 

Yep, I started mowing yards when I was like eleven years old.  Worked my ass off, made me the amazing guy I am today!  :)
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Articles like this remind me why I hate the fucking left, the govt, and all the panzie, lazy, communist, socialist, pofs liberals in this country. 

Every liberal in this country needs to pack up their fucking shit and go live in Greece. 

Lazy pofs do-nothings,  Every freaking one of them. 

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I thought the baby boomer generation was fucked up, but their children are even more worthless, and I can' even imagine how despicable the current generation of little kids is going to be.... WTF haha
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This story is a perfect example of why this country is done. 

The lazy do-nothing liberal communist scum would rather these kids do nothing than actually learn a good work ethic and learn how things actually work.  then when their lazy do-nothing asses make it out into the real world, they are useless, just like the pofs in the WH. 

If you want a perfect example of how the liberal ideology is a disaster in every respect, just look at the WH. 

 

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Anonymous complaint.   ::)  At least have the stones to say who you are. 

I'm not sure who is worse:  the person who complained or the government official who investigated the complaint.   

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Anonymous complaint.   ::)  At least have the stones to say who you are. 

I'm not sure who is worse:  the person who complained or the government official who investigated the complaint.   

Or the poster who posted this thread trying to make some type of point that this should not be allowed.  I guess its better to have these kids in front of video games all day and listeing to obama speeches.   ::)  ::)

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Or the poster who posted this thread trying to make some type of point that this should not be allowed.  I guess its better to have these kids in front of video games all day and listeing to obama speeches.   ::)  ::)

I don't agree with much of Al's views, but I wouldn't attack him for posting the story. 

But I do think this is a waste of taxpayer money.  Just plain stupid.  I know many parents who have their kids work for them during summers. 

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I'm not attacking him for posting it unless he thinks the govt should be banning this.  If he does think this, than he should be attacked and beaten until he wakes up from his deluded state of mind. 


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First of all , you can eat a dick.

Secondly, I posted it not because I agree or disagree with the gov't, but because I knew the usual suspects would chime in with the "liberals are ruining this country", "go to Europe" bullshit.

No law is 100% perfect and there are going to be anomalies. Common sense application is the key. This is foolish and more than likely will land in the family's favor. It's not a sign that America is falling apart, there should be no child labor laws or that the government is trying to destroy small business.

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First of all , you can eat a dick.

Secondly, I posted it not because I agree or disagree with the gov't, but because I knew the usual suspects would chime in with the "liberals are ruining this country", "go to Europe" bullshit.

No law is 100% perfect and there are going to be anomalies. Common sense application is the key. This is foolish and more than likely will land in the family's favor. It's not a sign that America is falling apart, there should be no child labor laws or that the government is trying to destroy small business.

What is your position on it then? 

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I think that paragraph makes it pretty clear what my position is. This is a  case of a reasonable law being badly applied. There are no political sides and it's not a sign of the state of the country. Wacky shit happens.

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I think that paragraph makes it pretty clear what my position is. This is a  case of a reasonable law being badly applied. There are no political sides and it's not a sign of the state of the country. Wacky shit happens.

 ::)  ::)

I'm sure the govt do-nothings are going to make this guys' life hell now.  I guess its better that they hire illegal mexicans.   ::)  ::)

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Anonymous complaint.   ::)  At least have the stones to say who you are. 

I'm not sure who is worse:  the person who complained or the government official who investigated the complaint.   

It's possible the person who complained may not have known they were his kids, ...but I doubt it.
As for the government official, they have no choice but to investigate an allegation of llabour, but they should also use discretion & prudence in how they apply the law. This is bureaucracy run amok.

As for 333's usual tired, stale, rants about liberals... what can I say... Johnny one-note-on-the-kazoo is at it again.
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 ::)  ::)

Please its not stale and tired as every day we have more examples of the stupidity of the govt on all levels.  Its not govt run amok.  Its govt in its natural state. 

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Sorry,Im going to disagree with everyone.Child labor laws are not reasonable.Who is the government to tell anyone what they can and cant do if its not hurting anyone.If an 8 year old can do the job and wants to work and has an employer who will employe him,what right does the filthy government have to say its wrong?

This is why I hate the government.They always think they have to protect us from ourselves.Why cant they leave us alone?Some kids LIKE working and making money,why cant they?Because the government thinks they need to protect them.Sad indeed.

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When I was 10 y/o my friends and I used to go out and shovel driveways of snow for like $10 a piece. 

Now if we did that the nanny staters would come and scream and ask for a 1099 and a General release before I stepped on the property. 

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Sorry,Im going to disagree with everyone.Child labor laws are not reasonable.Who is the government to tell anyone what they can and cant do if its not hurting anyone.If an 8 year old can do the job and wants to work and has an employer who will employe him,what right does the filthy government have to say its wrong?

This is why I hate the government.They always think they have to protect us from ourselves.Why cant they leave us alone?Some kids LIKE working and making money,why cant they?Because the government thinks they need to protect them.Sad indeed.

Dont you think there are lots of idiots who will pull their kids out of school and MAKE them work, so they can stay home and watch TV all day?

Not fair to the kid.

Of course, i can't believe I have to argue FOR child labor laws here.  Only on getbig hehe :)

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Dont you think there are lots of idiots who will pull their kids out of school and MAKE them work, so they can stay home and watch TV all day?

Not fair to the kid.

Of course, i can't believe I have to argue FOR child labor laws here.  Only on getbig hehe :)

240 - should the govt have banned my dad from letter me work at the shop when i was 12 y/o as a helper? 

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240 - should the govt have banned my dad from letter me work at the shop when i was 12 y/o as a helper? 

you end the child labor laws and you'll have 8 year olds working on oil rigs, crawling down mines where grownups dont fit, and other insanely dangerous work. 

All of us learn from our dads at work, if we're lucky.  but being a helper, and being a 40 hour employee is something different.

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you end the child labor laws and you'll have 8 year olds working on oil rigs, crawling down mines where grownups dont fit, and other insanely dangerous work. 

All of us learn from our dads at work, if we're lucky.  but being a helper, and being a 40 hour employee is something different.

How so? 

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you end the child labor laws and you'll have 8 year olds working on oil rigs, crawling down mines where grownups dont fit, and other insanely dangerous work. 

All of us learn from our dads at work, if we're lucky.  but being a helper, and being a 40 hour employee is something different.

Thats silly.NO COMPANY is going to have people working who cant do the job.An 8 year old cant do the work on an oil rig.Adults get fired because they cant do the job.But he could be a buss boy or sweep the floors.Whats wrong with that?

And no I dont think people would make their kids work so they could stay home,or you would see a lot more kids mowing lawns,having paper routes and shoveling snow now.When child labor laws went into affect it was because kids HAD to work to help bring in income to the house.There was no such thing as welfare,food stamps etc.Today a kid working for minumum wage would hurt the families ability to collect from the government.

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LOL I like to argue some silly silly stuff guys... but really, debating child labor laws is funny beyond belief!