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« Reply #150 on: July 16, 2017, 01:57:31 AM »

If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.
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« Reply #151 on: July 16, 2017, 12:00:00 PM »

If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.

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I sometimes watch Deandre Jordan and think what he would be doing if he wasn't a basketball player.
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« Reply #152 on: July 16, 2017, 07:36:10 PM »

If LeBron was 5'8" instead of 6'8" he'd be robbing convenience stores right now.

ok if that makes you feel better about him being the best player of all time Smiley

safe to say most guys wouldn't be in the nba if they weren't tall

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« Reply #153 on: July 16, 2017, 08:02:35 PM »

ok if that makes you feel better about him being the best player of all time Smiley

safe to say most guys wouldn't be in the nba if they weren't tall

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« Reply #154 on: July 21, 2017, 03:07:17 PM »

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Kyrie Irving requesting trade out of Cleveland to find bigger role
Brian Windhorst
ESPN Senior Writer

Kyrie Irving is ready to end his run with the Cleveland Cavaliers, as league sources told ESPN that the point guard has asked the team to trade him.

The request came last week and was made to Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert. Irving has expressed that he wants to play in a situation where he can be more of a focal point and that he no longer wants to play alongside LeBron James, sources said.

Among several possibilities discussed in Irving's meeting with the Cavaliers, the San Antonio Spurs were raised as a preferred destination, league sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. Other teams Irving said he'd be willing to join were the New York Knicks, Miami Heat and Minnesota Timberwolves, league sources told ESPN.

The Knicks have strong interest in acquiring Irving via trade, but as of Friday night, they were not willing to include Kristaps Porzingis in any potential deal, league sources told ESPN's Ian Begley. The Knicks, sources told Begley, would consider including Carmelo Anthony and future first-round picks in a package for the All-Star point guard. The Cavaliers' interest in such a package is unclear.

Irving also considered the Chicago Bulls before they traded Jimmy Butler, league sources told Begley.

LeBron James has told the Cavaliers he is focused on his offseason workout regimen and is planning to report to training camp with the intention of leading his teammates to a fourth consecutive Finals no matter who those teammates are, sources told ESPN.

Altman set to be named Cavs GM, sources say
A formal announcement to announce the promotion of Koby Altman from assistant general manager to GM is expected from the Cavaliers soon, sources told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

Could the Cleveland Cavaliers win a Kyrie Irving trade?
Kyrie Irving is ready to leave LeBron. Should the Cavs make a move? Kevin Pelton examines possible trade options.
Irving's agent, Jeff Wechsler, would not confirm or deny whether the point guard asked for a trade.

"Kyrie and I had a meeting with Cavs leadership where we discussed many different scenarios in reference to Kyrie and his future with the team," Wechsler told Wojnarowski. "The basis of those discussions and what went on in those discussions are between the Cavs and us. We are respectfully going to keep those private."

Sources told ESPN's Chris Haynes that the Cavaliers were disturbed that Irving's request was made public, believing it could affect his trade value.

The Cavaliers parted with general manager David Griffin last month after they couldn't come to an agreement on a contract extension. Cleveland has yet to name Griffin's replacement -- sources told ESPN's Wojnarowski that promoting assistant general manager Koby Altman to GM is imminent -- and James, the franchise centerpiece, has reportedly expressed concern about the team's direction.

James was informed of Irving's request and was blindsided and disappointed, sources said. Irving did talk about the meeting to several other teammates, a league source told ESPN's Dave McMenamin.

News of the request comes days after Irving told Sports Illustrated that the Cavaliers were in a "very peculiar" place this offseason.

"We just have to, you know, make sure that all our pieces are aligned first, and then we go from there," Irving told the magazine. "It's the summertime, a lot of craziness going on in the NBA."

Irving, 25, has been with the Cavaliers since they made him the No. 1 overall pick in the 2011 draft. After Irving and the Cavs plodded through three losing seasons, their fortunes changed when James returned. The Big Three of James, Irving and Kevin Love has reached the past three NBA Finals, winning the title in 2016.

Love appeared to allude to Irving's request in a tweet Friday, saying, "Things are a little peculiar."

Kevin Love ✔ @kevinlove
Life is amazing. No complaints. Things are a little peculiar. But no complaints. Now go kick some rocks 🙌🏼 https://twitter.com/insidehoops/status/888499877201801217
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How to handle Irving's situation is complex for the Cavs, as James can be a free agent next summer. Irving has three years and $60 million left on his contract, but he can opt out of the final year before the 2019-20 season.

By asking for a trade, Irving would be willingly giving up the chance to qualify for and sign a "supermax" contract with the Cavs in 2019. This provision, installed in the just-started collective bargaining agreement, was meant to deter star players from leaving their teams as they came up on their third contract. This is when numerous stars want to move, as has played out with Kevin Durant, Gordon Hayward and Paul George.

Irving's contract contains a 15 percent trade bonus that would pay him an additional $2.9 million in both the 2017-18 and 2018-19 seasons.

After winning the Eastern Conference title in May, Irving described his closeness with James and how staying together can benefit them.

"When you get to that level of trust and you allow someone to come into a friendship that extends well off the court," Irving said, "and you understand how great this era can be if we are selfless to the point where we don't think about anything else except for the greatness of our team and what we can accomplish."

Irving had a good relationship with Griffin, who was a point man in selling Irving on a five-year contract extension in 2014 even though the team was coming off four consecutive losing seasons.

Griffin understood that Irving's desires for his career had to be managed and worked regularly to challenge Irving and, at times, soothe him. Coach Tyronn Lue is also a strong supporter of Irving and has been a strong defender when Irving's game -- which is sometimes more shoot-first than pass-first for a point guard -- has come under criticism.

Focal Point

Kyrie Irving is seeking a trade out of Cleveland to become a team's cornerstone, sources told ESPN. But Irving played a big role for the Cavaliers last season, especially down the stretch of games, where he carried a bigger load than LeBron James.
Cavaliers in clutch, 2016-17 season
IRVING   JAMES
FGAs   83   66
Usage pct.   36.2   32.1
Minutes   123   124
-- ESPN Stats & Information
When Irving signed his deal, he expected to be the franchise player for the foreseeable future. But about two weeks later, James arrived from Miami. The sudden change of situation rocked Irving, and he has vacillated at times over the past three years about working as a secondary star to James and the original plan of having his own team.

He discussed the challenge during last month's NBA Finals.


"Having just a tremendously great player like that come to your team, and you see yourself being one of those great players eventually, and then he ends up joining it and then now you have to almost take a step back and observe," Irving said. "Finding that balance is one of the toughest things to do because you have so much belief and confidence in yourself. ... Selfishly, I always wanted to just show everyone in the whole entire world exactly who I was every single time."

With this in mind, Irving considered requesting a trade after the Cavs' championship last season but decided against it, sources said.

Irving, a four-time All-Star, has averaged 21.6 points and 5.6 assists per game for his career. Last season, he averaged a career-high 25.2 points to go with 5.8 assists per game while shooting 40.1 percent on 3-pointers.

However, Irving has not excelled when playing without James. Last season, the Cavs were outscored by 90 points in 574 minutes when Irving played and James didn't. In the playoffs, they were outscored by 30 points in 61 minutes. In the Finals against the Golden State Warriors, the Cavs were outscored 37-13 when Irving was on the court and James was off.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20124505/kyrie-irving-seeking-trade-cleveland-cavaliers
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« Reply #155 on: July 21, 2017, 07:30:58 PM »

ESPN headline:

Sources- Kyrie seeks trade to evade Lebron. 

Bwahahahaha!
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« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2017, 07:36:58 PM »

kyrie is tired of being the beta male, how is that a knock on the KING?

also we've all seen a person dump somebody because they know they are going to get dumped by them

kyrie is jumping off that sinking ship before the KING leaves

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« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2017, 06:43:19 AM »

This should not be a knock on James.

Irving is being a bitch.  That team he's on has given him the chance to play in the NBA finals every year, and make a shit ton of cash.

If he was smart, he'd just wait a year until James leaves then go from there.
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« Reply #158 on: July 26, 2017, 05:34:41 PM »

This should not be a knock on James.

Irving is being a bitch.  That team he's on has given him the chance to play in the NBA finals every year, and make a shit ton of cash.

If he was smart, he'd just wait a year until James leaves then go from there.

Overall, I don't think it's necessarily a knock on either one of them.  LeBron has been holding the franchise hostage by signing short term deals and making demands for certain players.  The team is built around LeBron, but he might leave after next year.  I don't fault him for any of that. 

If LeBron leaves next year, Cleveland becomes a bottom dweller again, but Irving would still be there.  I don't fault Irving for taking the initiative to try and control his own destiny. 

That said, I did hear today that LeBron was pushing for the Cavs to trade Irving for Chris Paul AFTER they won the title last year, and that Irving recently found out about it.  That might partly explain Irving's motivation to leave. 
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« Reply #159 on: July 30, 2017, 05:21:56 PM »

Lebron James couldn't be a bigger pussy if he was Amy Schumer's pussy.
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« Reply #160 on: August 07, 2017, 11:42:16 PM »

Hey, remember when Dirk Nowitzki beat LeBron in the NBA Finals?   Grin

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« Reply #161 on: August 09, 2017, 07:21:19 PM »

hey remember when jordan failed to get the wizards to the playoffs in a horrible conference and then got fired Grin



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« Reply #162 on: August 14, 2017, 07:32:05 PM »

Hey, remember when Tim Duncan beat LeBron in the NBA Finals?...................Twice .





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« Reply #163 on: August 15, 2017, 06:48:16 AM »

Many older fans are just failing to realize that the NBA has changed. Social media has helped fuel player's and team's offseasons, and turned it into a 24/7, 365 day a year soap opera.

Do I agree with guys constantly switching team's? No.

Will LeBron leave for the Lakers after this season? Who knows, but it adds to the drama.

Montana went to the Chiefs.......Jordan went to the Wizards.....

If they can play for another team (albeit for different reasons) then nobody is out of the question.
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« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2017, 09:09:02 AM »

Hey, remember when Tim Duncan beat LeBron in the NBA Finals?...................Twice .







yeah such shame in losing to one of the best players of all time while also having a much better team and coach Roll Eyes

that rapist kobe lost to him countless times

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« Reply #165 on: August 17, 2017, 01:09:38 PM »

yeah such shame in losing to one of the best players of all time while also having a much better team and coach Roll Eyes

that rapist kobe lost to him countless times

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Actually idiot, on the way to his 5 championship rings, Kobe's Lakers beat Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs 4 times, they lost to the Spurs only twice.

LeBronze beat Duncan once and it took a miracle shot from Ray Allen to do it.  He should be 0 and 3.
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« Reply #166 on: August 18, 2017, 11:30:40 AM »

Actually idiot, on the way to his 5 championship rings, Kobe's Lakers beat Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs 4 times, they lost to the Spurs only twice.

LeBronze beat Duncan once and it took a miracle shot from Ray Allen to do it.  He should be 0 and 3.

duncan beat him twice

once where it was the KING and a bunch of nobodies, parker was finals mvp

the other time where kawhi was the best player on the team, finals mvp

now spin this whatever stupid way you want like a jilted ex girlfriend Kiss

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« Reply #167 on: August 19, 2017, 03:05:53 PM »

Hey, do you know who else beat Lebron twice in the Finals?  Bwahahaha...



If he is the best player in the world who has surrounded himself with at least 2 other all-stars every year since 2010......why is he getting smashed in the Finals all the time?

Can you imagine what it's gonna be like next season when he gets beaten again?  Haha, fucking phaggot.


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« Reply #168 on: August 19, 2017, 03:07:24 PM »

What's even better is that this uneducated potato is pretending to be a leader speaking out about societal issues that he clearly doesn't understand.

The blind leading the blind.
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« Reply #169 on: August 19, 2017, 06:45:52 PM »

Hey, do you know who else beat Lebron twice in the Finals?  Bwahahaha...



If he is the best player in the world who has surrounded himself with at least 2 other all-stars every year since 2010......why is he getting smashed in the Finals all the time?

Can you imagine what it's gonna be like next season when he gets beaten again?  Haha, fucking phaggot.




kyrie and love didn't play in the finals, where curry wasn't even mvp and got owned by dellavadova

the warriors last year with durant were the best team of all time, and if the warriors won the year before that they could've made an argument for best all time but they lost to the KING

haha you are owned again and forever salty over Lebron being the best all time Grin

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« Reply #170 on: August 19, 2017, 06:47:15 PM »

What's even better is that this uneducated potato is pretending to be a leader speaking out about societal issues that he clearly doesn't understand.

The blind leading the blind.

standing up for what you believe in is called being alpha, you don't understand because you are total beta

jordan "republicans buy shoes too" Roll Eyes

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« Reply #171 on: August 19, 2017, 09:36:02 PM »

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

He's a fucking potato and the fact that you idolize him and make excuses for him doesn't reflect very well on you.
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« Reply #172 on: August 20, 2017, 08:38:45 PM »

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

He's a fucking potato and the fact that you idolize him and make excuses for him doesn't reflect very well on you.

facts, facts, facts

he's the best all time and the fact you hate on him constantly doesn't reflect very well on you

you shit on him for having good teammates, and then praise curry who plays on the most stacked team ever, then you talk about duncan who wasn't even the best player on his own team at that point

doesn't matter the KING beat both even when both had better teams








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