So it's pretty darn clear that you guys blame Islam as a whole for 9/11

[George Whorewell]

ok ...another chance...did you read the koran to come to your conclusions...

yes or no answer will suffice...


you either read it...or you r ONLY relying on other peoples opinion of the book...

argument over

I have examined many passages from the Koran. No, I have not read the entire Koran ( why would I? I'm Christian and I've never read the Bible from cover to cover either). Also, since most of the worlds Korans are written in Arabic ( a language most Muslims can't speak or read)  most Muslims have never read the Koran in its entirety either. Your point is so stupid that it's actually sad. And yes, this argument is over because I don't waste my energy debating with individuals that have the IQ of a jar of mayonnaise. 

[tonymctones]

For Tony:

One condemning violence not long before 9/11
Holy shit, this is the first time I've started to look for muslims condemning the terrorists.... I've never even looked before, there's a shit load of videos.  I got these from the first half page of relust in my search.

I think you misunderstood my hugo, i never said that there wasnt any protest or organizations against terrorism...my point is that there isnt enough of them to make a difference...you have a couple of organizations of which cair is one that does promote speaking out against it...my point is the muslim community the muslim ppl do not condemn terrorist acts as they should.

you can ask protein as he has from time to time tried to explain why that might be...

do you think the muslim community has condemned terrorism in the name of islam to any recognizable extent?

I agree that it is only what is shown but you get a march big enough and the news will cover it, you put out commercials and ppl will see them...

[ToxicAvenger]

I have examined many passages from the Koran. No, I have not read the entire Koran ( why would I? I'm Christian and I've never read the Bible from cover to cover either). Also, since most of the worlds Korans are written in Arabic ( a language most Muslims can't speak or read)  most Muslims have never read the Koran in its entirety either. Your point is so stupid that it's actually sad. And yes, this argument is over because I don't waste my energy debating with individuals that have the IQ of a jar of mayonnaise. 

touche...so your argument of a book is based on the FACT that you have only read some of it...

brilliant...

as for debating me...you cant..you have no ground to stand on as far as the book is concerned...so you must call it a stupid argument and run 

aint logic a bitch to ya bible thumpers?

[George Whorewell]

 

Another stupid argument by another clueless douchebag.

Have you ever read the Koran from start to finish? If so, please tell us about it. Enlighten us to the words of the almighty. If not, shut the fuck up and go back into your cage. Brutally poor attempt at launching a half assed and irrelevant argument.

And BTW I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but wtf does me reading the entire Koran have to do with my criticism of how those who follow Islam behave?

What possible value could be discerned from reading something that most Muslims have never read? Please explain to me in detail how reading every syllable of the Koran is supposed to show me something relevant to what is happening in our world at this moment.

And like most Muslims, you clearly don't know how to read. I am not a bible thumper. I am not even religious. If you read my prior posting, I said explicitly that I had never read the entire BIBLE either.

Clearly, you don't know what the word logic means.

[ToxicAvenger]

Another stupid argument by another clueless douchebag.

Have you ever read the Koran from start to finish? If so, please tell us about it. Enlighten us to the words of the almighty. If not, shut the fuck up and go back into your cage. Brutally poor attempt at launching a half assed and irrelevant argument.

And BTW I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but wtf does me reading the entire Koran have to do with my criticism of how those who follow Islam behave?

What possible value could be discerned from reading something that most Muslims have never read? Please explain to me in detail how reading every syllable of the Koran is supposed to show me something relevant to what is happening in our world at this moment.

And like most Muslims, you clearly don't know how to read. I am not a bible thumper. I am not even religious. If you read my prior posting, I said explicitly that I had never read the entire BIBLE either.

Clearly, you don't know what the word logic means.

ouch....call Mr self proclaimed "balanced level headed smart guy" an idiot and it bursts into flames...

but i'll bother explaining in a few lines since you need the baby sitting(i'm used to baby sitting inferior IQs!  ). The question is whether Islam in itself an evil religion...which would make the koran an evil book. If the doing of extremist muslims are not related to the koran then islam inherently is not evil. If the doings of extremist muslims r koranic based then you must have had to read the koran to make a judgement...either way , whether they r following the koran or not

see dumbie...simple...but as i have known already...any type of religious fundie (christian, muslim or jew) would find logic infuriating..which u do!  

[Kazan]

knowing your track record at being a world class liar...who asked you?

you are the same guy whose # ws posted on some site and got calls from people asking to have phone sex with your mom upon which mommy and daddy forbade you to post on getbig...

who said u have credence here?

and oh..when you say you have read it...you dont need to add 164 verses etc etc...read it MEANS read the whole thing dumbass

The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346..i bet you those violent verses each come after 50 verses each urging to lead by example and be patient and try your best to find a peacefull resolution...

and NO you have NOT read the koran...you r the same pathetic loser that got beat up by his own team in the locker room at uconn...so forgive me..i dont believe pathetic

i would believe georgewhorewell though

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The funniest thing about your post is your from Pakistan right? Your parents are Muslims right? Ever heard of abrogation? Yeah if the violent passage comes after the other 50 peaceful one, guess which one is followed. Don't take my word for it, look it up.

[Dos Equis]

I don't think the question is very clear.  How could we declare war on Islam?  We can target a country, terrorist group, etc., but a religion?  Is that even possible? 

[Arnold jr]

I don't think the question is very clear.  How could we declare war on Islam?  We can target a country, terrorist group, etc., but a religion?  Is that even possible? 

We can create a target that specifies anyone who carries the title "muslim" that they should be looked at. Thing is, and I just said this in another post a minute ago, a lot of Muslims have no idea what they're buying into, especially here in the states. They buy in to "The Religion of Peace" with no idea about the political and social factor that is equally entrenched in Islam.

[Dos Equis]

We can create a target that specifies anyone who carries the title "muslim" that they should be looked at. Thing is, and I just said this in another post a minute ago, a lot of Muslims have no idea what they're buying into, especially here in the states. They buy in to "The Religion of Peace" with no idea about the political and social factor that is equally entrenched in Islam.

Doesn't sound like a very clear target.  If we're talking about military action, I don't see how that's possible. 

[Arnold jr]

Doesn't sound like a very clear target.  If we're talking about military action, I don't see how that's possible. 

Clear like our invasion of Germany? No, it's not and that makes the whole thing a lot harder.

[Dos Equis]

Clear like our invasion of Germany? No, it's not and that makes the whole thing a lot harder.

Clear like every other war or combat mission.  In Iraq we went in to remove Saddam.  In Afghanistan we went after Al Qaeda and the Taliban.  In Panama we went in to remove Noriega.  Etc., etc.  If we're going to war with "Islam," what exactly is our military target? 

[GigantorX]

After all the terrorism, death, bombings and destruction.....the United Nations gave Yasser Arafat a platform on which to speak, thus legitimizing the original godless, greedy, inhuman, sociopathic terrorist.

After all of his butchering, death, terror bombings and the like......he was given the gift of a free platform at the United Nations....


You want the beginning of it all? Well..........there you fucking go.

[George Whorewell]

Gigantor you are wrong!


Unless you have read the Koran from cover to cover, you have no right to ciritcize Islam!

Whatever the effects of muslims radicalized based on words they themselves never read (because they cant read or speak arabic), you have no right to challenge the behavior of these individuals.

As a paralell comparison supported by toxic and straw, you cannot claim you are a heterosexual until you willingly allow a gay person to sodimize you repeatedly. Until you give into non consensual sodomy, you are forbidden to proclaim you are a heterosexual. After all, until you are ass raped, how would you ever understand the rapists point of view?!

[ToxicAvenger]

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The funniest thing about your post is your from Pakistan right? Your parents are Muslims right? Ever heard of abrogation? Yeah if the violent passage comes after the other 50 peaceful one, guess which one is followed. Don't take my word for it, look it up.

yes i know what abrogation is...but thats besides the point...you want me to retype all that i have been saying for the past several posts?

i'll keep it short ..one last time...i never questioned the FACT that muslims have done evil things in the name of islam...what i ws challenging ws whether the koran ws an evil book deemed evil by someone that had not read it...

got it?..cause i honestly cant dumb it down any further

[ToxicAvenger]

Unless you have read the Koran from cover to cover, you have no right to ciritcize Islam!

o you have every right to....everyone is allowed to be a dumbass by making judgements without looking at evidence...you have every right to..thats whats great about this country...even functional retards have a shot of being productive citizens!