Stretching is killing your workout!

[SF1900]

Didn't realize we were talking about oncology..fuck!

Its all based on the scientific method, genius. Whether you research oncology or you research cancer, you always use the scientific method. With that in mind, they employ the same process, they just use different variables. Thus, unless you actively engage in research, how can you say their peer reviewed articles are wrong? Please present evidence to refute their claims.

Here I will post a diagram. I know bodybuilders are not too bright. You see, this is how science works.

[chaos]

Didn't realize we were talking about oncology..fuck!

We're talking about being "completly retarted".

[MB_722]

no homo I like warming up and stretching. it helps before doing anything.

no idea I have a rigid body. no homo.

[Master Blaster]

As of right now the NSCA has been underfire from peers for admtting flawed research into their journals. The backfire of this has been the NSCA omitting almost anyone who had had papers published be omitted, therefore anyone who used their research for CEU's wouldn't be used. Not saying the above study isn't valid because its based on endurance.....which is TOTALLY the opposite of anything you, I or any power athlete (football, etc) is trying to accomplish. That being said, Mentzer was wrong!

Can you read?

"Researchers now believe that some of the more entrenched elements of many athletes’ warm-up regimens are not only a waste of time but actually bad for you. The old presumption that holding a stretch for 20 to 30 seconds — known as static stretching — primes muscles for a workout is dead wrong. It actually weakens them. In a recent study conducted at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, athletes generated less force from their leg muscles after static stretching than they did after not stretching at all. Other studies have found that this stretching decreases muscle strength by as much as 30 percent. Also, stretching one leg’s muscles can reduce strength in the other leg as well, probably because the central nervous system rebels against the movements."

[Voice of Doom]

I stretch to waken myself from daily IT work and make a connection with my body (no homo) to prepare it for the lifting session.  Maybe it weakens me 30%...but the trade off for focus and preparation versus potential injury is worth it. 

[flexingtonsteele]

I prefer a dynamic warm up with joint mobility, some foam rolling, and very light stretching before i train.

Then i do a few warm up sets for whatever exercise im doing, then get to the heavy lifting!

Its pretty simple.

But I never do deep stretches before training, it just doesnt make sense. I want my muscles to be warm not loose.

[heavyNbasic]

I prefer a dynamic warm up with joint mobility, some foam rolling, and very light stretching before i train.

Then i do a few warm up sets for whatever exercise im doing, then get to the heavy lifting!

Its pretty simple.

But I never do deep stretches before training, it just doesnt make sense. I want my muscles to be warm not loose.

Ditto here, to a tee.  Started doing this about 3 years ago vs. static stretching.  Works much better for me. 

[Meso_z]

bulshit "studies", kind of stydies "fatpanda" would only praise.

I ALWAYS stretch lightly after a warm up and in the end of the workout i stretch harder.

My workouts are just fine.

[mass243]

Do any of the pro bb's stretch before workout? Now I started thinking it and at least I can't remember any such an activity in their training videos...
They occasionally stretch lightly and briefly maybe between sets and possibly after workout but before..?

[Meso_z]

Do any of the pro bb's stretch before workout? Now I started thinking it and at least I can't remember any such an activity in their training videos...
They occasionally stretch lightly and briefly maybe between sets and possibly after workout but before..?

man, as if "pros" know what they are doing....

In fact, only a few have the knowledge of what they are doing in their workouts and FOR WHAT they are doing it. (Dorian for exampple)

[mass243]

man, as if "pros" know what they are doing....

In fact, only a few have the knowledge of what they are doing in their workouts and FOR WHAT they are doing it. (Dorian for exampple)

Might be correct but at least they're doing something right there 

Jay for sure qualifies as 'few' who know what they are doing... and I don't see even him stretching before workouts  After workout for sure but not before... or maybe Mits thinks it's too boring to anybody watch so he don't film that?

[Tapeworm]

Sitting on my ass killed my workout today.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Stretching is not necessary for lifting.  That's what warm up sets are for.  The only reason guys injure themselves lifting is because they go too heavy, lift like a moron, spend too much time doing negatives, drop sets etc. 

[MB_722]

any good stretches for the inner thigh going up to groin?

[SF1900]

any good stretches for the inner thigh going up to groin?

Is that Selma Hayek in your avatar? 

[Purple Aki]

any good stretches for the inner thigh going up to groin?

http://www.runtheplanet.com/trainingracing/stretching/chap6-groin.asp

[flinstones1]

This is nothing new and it is well documented that static stretchig is counterproductive for high intensitiy training movemenets like sprinting.

[Tito24]

[nder98]

Looks like it fucks up cardio and weight training.

http://www.wired.com/playbook/2010/10/forget-pre-exercise-stretching/

"The latest salvo against stretching comes from a study published in the September issue of the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, which found that static stretching before a workout lowered runners’ endurance and made their body less efficient. While previous studies have illustrated the effects of stretching on anaerobic activities, this was the first one to show the effects on runners."

The biggest crock of shit... Lets see humm lower my endurance(If this was true) or tear a muscle hummmmmmm.