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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2010, 05:33:41 PM »
calm down fag(s) ;)

so who is it, the arrogant fag?

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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2010, 05:34:03 PM »
There will come a time when our knowledge of the brain, achieved through neuroscience will be able to tell us a lot more about our nature as sentient apes and in particular will be able to tell us a lot more about 'free will', traditionally a conversation relegated to philosophy. When this time comes, there will have to be a merging of both philosophy and science, at least in this particular case, such that one can no longer apply neat categories to the disciplines. Example: every time a person here makes a statement within the scientific context on the nature of man, you jump at him and say, you have now entered the domain of philosophy and any statement you are making, as long as it is informed by science, is not science. The day when such categorisation is no longer possible (as you enjoy doing) is not far off. I await a response.
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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2010, 05:35:48 PM »
so who is it, the arrogant fag?

not you.

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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2010, 05:38:40 PM »
not you.

damn, GB feuds seem to last forever, why not make a movie about it ;D

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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2010, 05:44:38 PM »
damn, GB feuds seem to last forever, why not make a movie about it ;D

heeeeeeeeeey hadn't thought about those in awhile ;D

just to be clear --seriously glad everyone is doing fine and still alive.  just got to give shit once in awhile

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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2010, 09:46:44 PM »
I think humana are rational.  We are sexually competitive and seek to kill all same sex and hoard hot members of opposite along with best cave and food.   Society interferes with this and so we have the wakkiness we call civilization. 

As far as the science discussion that is potentailly very interesting thread.
No one is close to explaining the human brain.
Physical sciences have a lot understood.
Exercise science and biological sciences I would say are not as well understood.
Science is to some extent about reproducible results.  How to produce the result of a lean body even here on this forum in 2010 is vigiorously debated.   
What is sad is that housing food n water are known science, yet most live in scarcity having to work all thier lives for an abode.
I think the problem stems from more n more usless "jobs" sucking blood from productiev jobs n activities each day.  This makes for comy pseudo jobs like taching for example, but for wealth and science being wasted and living standards staying low.





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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2010, 11:04:32 PM »
There will come a time when our knowledge of the brain, achieved through neuroscience will be able to tell us a lot more about our nature as sentient apes and in particular will be able to tell us a lot more about 'free will', traditionally a conversation relegated to philosophy. When this time comes, there will have to be a merging of both philosophy and science, at least in this particular case, such that one can no longer apply neat categories to the disciplines. Example: every time a person here makes a statement within the scientific context on the nature of man, you jump at him and say, you have now entered the domain of philosophy and any statement you are making, as long as it is informed by science, is not science. The day when such categorisation is no longer possible (as you enjoy doing) is not far off. I await a response.

Any sort of epiphenomenal explanation of consciousness nonetheless affirms the existence of mind.  Imo, the reflective nature of consciousness implies the will to reflect as one's volition dictates.  Therefore, either mind is not purely a function of brain or the brain does not harbor consciousness.  

To acknowledge consciousness, it seems to me, is necessarily to acknowledge intention (if of nothing else than the continued will to be aware) which is born from thought (thinking thought thinking thought...) rather than from a mechanical inevitability of brain meat.  So I see the brain, while being the physical contingent of consciousness, and suffering from the usual liabilities of any physical object, as the servant of thought rather than its master.


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Re: Wavelength, calling you out!
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2010, 12:26:22 AM »
Any sort of epiphenomenal explanation of consciousness nonetheless affirms the existence of mind.  Imo, the reflective nature of consciousness implies the will to reflect as one's volition dictates.  Therefore, either mind is not purely a function of brain or the brain does not harbor consciousness.  

To acknowledge consciousness, it seems to me, is necessarily to acknowledge intention (if of nothing else than the continued will to be aware) which is born from thought (thinking thought thinking thought...) rather than from a mechanical inevitability of brain meat.  So I see the brain, while being the physical contingent of consciousness, and suffering from the usual liabilities of any physical object, as the servant of thought rather than its master.

Of course, the very concept of human thought and conciousness clearly dictates we must be more than just passive machines, which is what every computer is. How some of the greatest minds in science can miss this fact is beyond me.