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New Castle councilman calls cops on boys' cupcake sale
By Swapna Venugopal Ramaswamy • svenugop@lohud.com • November 15, 2010


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NEW CASTLE — When Andrew DeMarchis and Kevin Graff, two 13-year-olds from Chappaqua's Seven Bridges Middle School, set up shop at Gedney Park on a fall weekend last month, they were expecting a tidy profit.

Instead, the two wannabe entrepreneurs selling cupcakes, cookies, brownies and Rice Krispie treats baked by them for $1 apiece got a taste of cold, hard bureaucracy .

New Castle Councilman Michael Wolfensohn came upon the sale and called the cops on the kids for operating without a license.
The boys' parents are incensed and can't believe a Town Board member would handle the situation that way.

"I am shocked and sad for the boys. It was such a great idea, and they worked hard at it," said Laura Graff, Kevin's mother. "But then some Town Board member decided to get on his high horse and wreck their dreams."

DeMarchis and Graff, along with two other classmates, Zachary Bass and Daniel Katz, had a simple, if half-baked, business plan: sell their treats at Gedney Park for a couple of years and save up enough to open a restaurant.

Their first day was wildly successful, the boys said. They netted $120, of which they invested $60 to buy a cart from Target and added water and Gatorade to their offerings on their second day, the next Saturday, Oct. 9.

After about an hour of brisk business , during which DeMarchis and Graff — Bass and Katz were not with them — said they made $30, police arrived at their stand and asked them to shut it down.

"The police officer was extremely pleasant. He said he was sorry to have to do this, but that he was following up on a report filed over the phone by a Town Board member," said Suzanne DeMarchis, Andrew's mother, who was called to the scene. "Kevin was so upset, he was crying all the whole way home. He was worried if he was going to get arrested or have a criminal record."

The boys, all of whom had bar mitzvahs this year, had done projects to benefit charities in the community, their parents said. The projects included collecting books for Maria Fareri Children's Hospital and raising money for Haiti earthquake victims.

"These are good kids who haven't once gone to the principal's office," said Laura Graff, Kevin's mother. "This was a very scary experience for them."

This month, after receiving a complaint from a friend of the DeMarchis family, The Journal News filed a New York state Freedom of Information Law request for the police report. The report, received Wednesday, listed Wolfensohn as filing the complaint.

Wolfensohn said Thursday that he called police after asking the boys if they were raising funds for charity.

"All vendors selling on town property have to have a license, whether it's boys selling baked goods or a hot dog vendor," said

Wolfensohn, who was elected to the board in 2007 after becoming well known in the community for leading a contentious, five-year effort to build a 9/11 memorial. The memorial ended up in Gedney Park after neighbors of the original location, the Duck Pond, sued.

Couldn't Wolfensohn have simply told the boys that they needed a license, the parents want to know, instead of calling the police?

"In hindsight, maybe I should have done that, but I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do that," he said. "The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues."

While a New Castle parks use permit requires a $1 million certificate of insurance and a fee ranging from $150 to $350 per two hours, New Castle Recreation and Parks Superintendent Robert Snyder said permits are given on a "case-by-case basis."

"If it's the Girl Scouts selling cookies or the local youth organization raising money for charity, the fee can be waived," Snyder said. "But if Sally and Judy wanted to make money to go to the movies, there might be a charge, and their parents would have to be involved ."
More importantly, the parks department needs to be informed, he said.

"We need to know who is in the park and what they are doing. What if there was work going on that was dangerous?" Snyder said. "But

I do understand why parents would think they can do this. People may not be aware that they need a permit."
For 13-year-old boys looking to make pocket money, there aren't many options, Suzanne DeMarchis said.

"I don't get too many offers for babysitting, and we live in a development, so shoveling snow is not an option either," said Andrew. "We were being entrepreneurs , but now I feel a little defeated."

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Ha ha ha ha -

Here you have a far left liberals like Wolfensohn pulling his nanny state crap on other liberals who mostly likely voted for him or other far left commies like him and now they act surprised?

Suckers.     

BTW - notice how the far left goes after kids and nt illegals? 

I know this area well and there are day laborers on corners up there. 

Typical THUGOCRACY.   

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2010, 08:20:55 AM »
Liberal parents now have to deal with the gestapo police state they vote for and don't like it now?   

Screw them.  Typical liberal jews from Westchester.  I am glad whatever misery they suffer directly resulting from the people they vote for like sheep. 

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2010, 08:22:36 AM »
liberal jews

dude, you can't write stuff like that

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2010, 08:26:57 AM »
dude, you can't write stuff like that


Why?   


 

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2010, 08:27:57 AM »
dude, you can't write stuff like that

Yes no one ever has a problem saying "conservative christians"?   I cant say liberal jews but can say conservative christians? 

Why is that? 

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2010, 08:31:08 AM »
Yes no one ever has a problem saying "conservative christians"?   I cant say liberal jews but can say conservative christians? 

Why is that? 

33, on this board you can call Christians anything under the sun, post offensive pics, etc..... with no threat of backlash.

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Re: And posters here wonder why I despise the govt. ? ? Whatever. Read this.
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 08:33:03 AM »
as a jew i can say im honestly not offended.. most jews in the US are liberal despite it flying in the face of our religion and our values. 

it's stupid

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2010, 08:37:04 AM »
as a jew i can say im honestly not offended.. most jews in the US are liberal despite it flying in the face of our religion and our values. 

it's stupid

I know it sounds stupid - but many of my friends are jewish and I have dated many myself. 

My statement was regarding voting patterns of certain groups. 

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2010, 08:54:54 AM »
33, on this board you can call Christians anything under the sun, post offensive pics, etc..... with no threat of backlash.

Yeah no kidding.  Its fucking bullshit.  I am probably the least religious person I kow and my parents think of me as a heretic for my views, slaytanic paraphanalia etc. 

However, I try to call it like I see it, regardless of who it may offend, even the sacred cows others are too cowardly or timid to discuss.   

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Environment Trumps Health As FDA Ends Sales of Only OTC Asthma Inhaler in U.S.
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New Castle councilman calls cops on boys' cupcake sale
By Swapna Venugopal Ramaswamy • svenugop@lohud.com • November 15, 2010


________________________ ________________________ _____________________


NEW CASTLE — When Andrew DeMarchis and Kevin Graff, two 13-year-olds from Chappaqua's Seven Bridges Middle School, set up shop at Gedney Park on a fall weekend last month, they were expecting a tidy profit.

Instead, the two wannabe entrepreneurs selling cupcakes, cookies, brownies and Rice Krispie treats baked by them for $1 apiece got a taste of cold, hard bureaucracy .

New Castle Councilman Michael Wolfensohn came upon the sale and called the cops on the kids for operating without a license.
The boys' parents are incensed and can't believe a Town Board member would handle the situation that way.

"I am shocked and sad for the boys. It was such a great idea, and they worked hard at it," said Laura Graff, Kevin's mother. "But then some Town Board member decided to get on his high horse and wreck their dreams."

DeMarchis and Graff, along with two other classmates, Zachary Bass and Daniel Katz, had a simple, if half-baked, business plan: sell their treats at Gedney Park for a couple of years and save up enough to open a restaurant.

Their first day was wildly successful, the boys said. They netted $120, of which they invested $60 to buy a cart from Target and added water and Gatorade to their offerings on their second day, the next Saturday, Oct. 9.

After about an hour of brisk business , during which DeMarchis and Graff — Bass and Katz were not with them — said they made $30, police arrived at their stand and asked them to shut it down.

"The police officer was extremely pleasant. He said he was sorry to have to do this, but that he was following up on a report filed over the phone by a Town Board member," said Suzanne DeMarchis, Andrew's mother, who was called to the scene. "Kevin was so upset, he was crying all the whole way home. He was worried if he was going to get arrested or have a criminal record."

The boys, all of whom had bar mitzvahs this year, had done projects to benefit charities in the community, their parents said. The projects included collecting books for Maria Fareri Children's Hospital and raising money for Haiti earthquake victims.

"These are good kids who haven't once gone to the principal's office," said Laura Graff, Kevin's mother. "This was a very scary experience for them."

This month, after receiving a complaint from a friend of the DeMarchis family, The Journal News filed a New York state Freedom of Information Law request for the police report. The report, received Wednesday, listed Wolfensohn as filing the complaint.

Wolfensohn said Thursday that he called police after asking the boys if they were raising funds for charity.

"All vendors selling on town property have to have a license, whether it's boys selling baked goods or a hot dog vendor," said

Wolfensohn, who was elected to the board in 2007 after becoming well known in the community for leading a contentious, five-year effort to build a 9/11 memorial. The memorial ended up in Gedney Park after neighbors of the original location, the Duck Pond, sued.

Couldn't Wolfensohn have simply told the boys that they needed a license, the parents want to know, instead of calling the police?

"In hindsight, maybe I should have done that, but I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do that," he said. "The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues."

While a New Castle parks use permit requires a $1 million certificate of insurance and a fee ranging from $150 to $350 per two hours, New Castle Recreation and Parks Superintendent Robert Snyder said permits are given on a "case-by-case basis."

"If it's the Girl Scouts selling cookies or the local youth organization raising money for charity, the fee can be waived," Snyder said. "But if Sally and Judy wanted to make money to go to the movies, there might be a charge, and their parents would have to be involved ."
More importantly, the parks department needs to be informed, he said.

"We need to know who is in the park and what they are doing. What if there was work going on that was dangerous?" Snyder said. "But

I do understand why parents would think they can do this. People may not be aware that they need a permit."
For 13-year-old boys looking to make pocket money, there aren't many options, Suzanne DeMarchis said.

"I don't get too many offers for babysitting, and we live in a development, so shoveling snow is not an option either," said Andrew. "We were being entrepreneurs , but now I feel a little defeated."

________________________ ________________________ ________



Ha ha ha ha -

Here you have a far left liberals like Wolfensohn pulling his nanny state crap on other liberals who mostly likely voted for him or other far left commies like him and now they act surprised?

Suckers.      

BTW - notice how the far left goes after kids and nt illegals?  

I know this area well and there are day laborers on corners up there.  

Typical THUGOCRACY.    

this is why you "despise the govt" ?


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Among many reasons. 

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Among many reasons. 

so you hate your country for many different unrelated reasons

just overwhelming anger and hatred

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That was a city councilman.   ::)


I was fully expecting a story about the federal government.  Lol

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That was a city councilman.   ::)


I was fully expecting a story about the federal government.  Lol

everything ties back to Obama and his communist agenda to destroy the country

only guys like 333 are vigilant enough to see through the fog and reveal the truth

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everything ties back to Obama and his communist agenda to destroy the country

only guys like 333 are vigilant enough to see through the fog and reveal the truth

No, Steve Wynn, who voted for obama sees it too.   

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No, Steve Wynn, who voted for obama sees it too.   
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33,

Do you trust the judgment of Obama voters?  yes or no?

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33,

Do you trust the judgment of Obama voters?  yes or no?



A few.   Not the overwhelming majority of them, but a few. 

Definately not you, if that is what you are asking me.   

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33,
Do you trust the judgment of Obama voters?  yes or no?

A few.   Not the overwhelming majority of them, but a few. 

What is the criteria you use to determine if an obama voter is trustworthy or not?

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What is the criteria you use to determine if an obama voter is trustworthy or not?

Why they voted for him in the first place and what they think today. 

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"In hindsight, maybe I should have done that, but I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do that," he said. "The police are trained to deal with these sorts of issues."


This is the quote that bothers me the most.  We are so fucking afraid of litigation, that common sense gets wiped out.

A Japanese steakhouse near me had a chef accidently shoot some Sake into an 18 year olds mouth.  The parents were like this fucking moron, so they called the cops, and now the restaurant can't do that anymore.  Took away a lot of the fun.  People are insane.
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Nanny state bullshit. 


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This sort of shit has been happening all over the country, a kid opens a lemonade stand and the next thing you know the police are called and they are shut down, unless of course they apply for permit that would end up costing $150.00. So we see the real deal here is that what ever municiplaity isn't getting their cut of the leamonade stand, or bake sale or whatever.
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A few.   Not the overwhelming majority of them, but a few. 

Definately not you, if that is what you are asking me.   

where's that quote you posted so many times about how the "danger" is not the politician but the voters who put him in office or something to that effect

you haven't posted that in awhile


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where's that quote you posted so many times about how the "danger" is not the politician but the voters who put him in office or something to that effect

you haven't posted that in awhile



The cicero quote is equally apt concerning fauxbama.

BTW - Straw - do you support this "GANG RAPE by 6" nonsense?