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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2010, 09:45:05 AM »

as usual, you're the only one in denial.  That's why you're so good at ignoring points made that go against your thinking on a subject.  You've always done it and now you're doing it again.

A. you accused me of dropping the ball on intelligent conversation then you started flipping out on me... Melting... I assumed you thought I went negative first.  Infact you did in response to one of many legit questions/points I made.  Most of which you failed to address.  

Are you know admitting that it's absurd to suggest China is better in regards to construction?  You did call out America with a list of shit, the suggestion obviously being these items are not a problem in China like they are in America.  Infact they're probably more of a problem in China.

And yea, you are the one melting down, as you always do with people who disagree with you.

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« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2010, 10:14:16 AM »

yep,

the united states is a regular third world country...



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Yeah Cy... great hotel...such high standards...maybe you should have used a better example...lol

http://www.nyhtc.org/secured.php?page=related_news&story_number=00749&tag=Waldorf=Astoria

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/family-sues-waldorf-astoria-over-bedbugs

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waldorf_astoria_shooter_offered_yS8ZCd58beW0yPvnLMzy2L

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/11/15/2008-11-15_retired_nypd_cop_shot_in_botched_robbery.html

http://www.city-data.com/ny-restaurants/HLT-NY-WALDORD-LLC-WALDORF-ASTORIA.html
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« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2010, 10:32:01 AM »

At 15 floors in 6 days that means a little over two floor per day. Using one year as a schedule...the Chinese could have build a building over 730 floors high...NOW THAT IS IMPRESSIVE!!!.

id love to see 1930's mainland china build anything close to that which resembls the E.S. building.

nice try.

btw, hugo shitvez owning samson/jag all over this thread.
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« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2010, 01:05:46 PM »


I don't know Samson, for some reason I don't think those compare to a building that just tipped the fuck over.....  Grin Grin
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« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2010, 03:58:11 PM »

China is building at a rate of adding one Chicago per week
http://www.forbes.com/2009/12/08/china-australia-commerce-international-opinions-columnists-robyn-meredith.html

They're just chucking these buildings up almost overnight lol...

Again, I'd like to ask people if they would rather stay daily in a large story building that was rushed up or would you feel safer in the buildings we build?

For me, no way I was work or live in and around buildings that were put up so fast you know they had to have cut corners and not fully preped sites and foundation structures.

THanks but no freaking thanks Samson.  It's bad enough that we have to use all this cheap plastic crap from China.
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« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2010, 04:00:15 PM »

Doesnt matter - wih the enviro nazis in this country - we will all be in tents under candles anyway. 
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2010, 04:49:08 PM »

I know a guy that built an indoor sports facility.  He had to pay around $500k just to get some kind of gigantic concrete footings sunk into the dirt (river front) before he was even allowed to build.

Has the United States ever built a building that just tipped over?  Grin

Atleast the World Trade Centers imploded on themselves...  Lips sealed
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2010, 04:51:18 PM »

I know a guy that built an indoor sports facility.  He had to pay around $500k just to get some kind of gigantic concrete footings sunk into the dirt (river front) before he was even allowed to build.

Second question,

Why is the kind of guy that has $500k for footers alone still investing in the United States (Midwest even) if our economy is ready to collapse?

Surely he's an intelligent man if he's got enough money to build a river front sports complex? Huh
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2010, 04:52:57 PM »

Why is one of Ohio's largest steel mills building a new Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if our economy is on the brink of collapse?  Surely the CEO of this fortune 500 company is as intelligent as Samson?

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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2010, 06:00:42 PM »

Don't forget, we're dealing with trying to talk to a person that hates America.  I don't say that in the sense that the Neocons loved to toss it around if you were in the slightest critical of America; Samson actually can't stand America and he's pretty much voiced enough opinions about America that it's clear, he hates us--especially whites in America...

No shock then that he takes every opportunity he can to take a jab at America, even when it's not warranted.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2010, 06:02:25 PM »

Don't forget, we're dealing with trying to talk to a person that hates America.  I don't say that in the sense that the Neocons loved to toss it around if you were in the slightest critical of America; Samson actually can't stand America and he's pretty much voiced enough opinions about America that it's clear, he hates us--especially whites in America...

No shock then that he takes every opportunity he can to take a jab at American, even when it's not warranted.

I know, I don't really bother with his threads anymore but they do entertain the hell out of me...  Grin

He's comparing the Waldorf Astoria's bed bugs (that probably came from China), to a hotel that literally tipped over....  Grin  Cracks me up... hahahahaha
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2010, 06:29:50 PM »

I agree that our building process is a bit over burdened with unions, corruption, EPA bs, etc.   

But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha
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« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2010, 09:14:22 PM »

I agree that our building process is a bit over burdened with unions, corruption, EPA bs, etc.   

But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha

Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.
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« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2010, 09:18:20 PM »

Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.

Did I say China was incapable of producing quality products?

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« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2010, 09:21:31 PM »


But anything made in China being synonymous with quality?    Hahahahahha

How about an economy?  mr. smarty pants  Angry
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« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2010, 09:25:02 PM »

Don't kid yourself. To me, that statement is as about as ridiculous as saying all Russian women look like men.
Remember when that fallacy circulated? ...when the only exposure the west had to Russian women were the steroid laden athletes of the Olympics. Now we certainly know better don't we?

China can produce exceptional quality if that is what is required. What America wants to import and what she has always wanted to import was cheap. Don't blame the seller for giving the buyer what she wanted. China can produce quality, but pretty soon, Americans won't be able to afford it.
Roll Eyes  It's not what the end buyer has ever wanted in America, we're sick of the cheap plastic crap... it's been what's forced on us by greedy corporations.  I've tried several times to not buy chinese shit, it's almost impossible.  And the chinese have even gone cheaper than that in the products to fuel their own greed, often using extremely dangerous materials because they're even cheaper than the specs called for.  If it were not for greedy corporations here, the chinese wouldn't be in any kind of boom and they would still look like they did 20+ years ago.  So we've fueled their economic boom and after it's done, we won't even get credit for that.  They already treat us like we never gave them a thing, as though they did all this on their own... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #41 on: November 15, 2010, 09:30:32 PM »

How about an economy?  mr. smarty pants  Angry
Well they are getting there.....  Its only taken them since 1421
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« Reply #42 on: November 15, 2010, 11:53:53 PM »

Why is one of Ohio's largest steel mills building a new Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if our economy is on the brink of collapse?  Surely the CEO of this fortune 500 company is as intelligent as Samson?

Huh

Thank you for the compliment. In your sarcasm you reveal your stupidity. The man must have been really smart and convincing to have managed to get investors to provide funding for the building of a Coke Plant and Blast Furnace if the rest of ameriac is in such dire straits. It is no mystery that americas economy has collapsed and the only thing holding it up is government bailouts, massive money printing and the 5 BILLION per day borrowed from CHINA!!!! Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

You're delusional Cy..glad you warned me of it...But if you want to believe the american fantasy of "we are going to make it through this" or "we will emerge greater than before" or "This financial crisis is just a speed bump" then you'd better put the CRACK PIPE DOWN...
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« Reply #43 on: November 15, 2010, 11:55:49 PM »

Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2010, 12:03:40 AM »

Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?

Didn't work for you did it??? You're still MELTING DOWN...MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN...lol
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« Reply #45 on: November 16, 2010, 12:10:01 AM »

Samsonjag, you're a very angry person.  Perhaps some therapy might help?

I don't understand him

I live in a depressed area (the Midwest), I'm living good (without working as hard as I should), people here are living good.  

I'm extremely critical of the United States, everyone knows that but Samson/24KT take it to a whole new delusional level.


I just got back from John's Creek, Georgia.  Home of Tyler Perry, Raven-Symone, Usher, the president of Home Depot, and a bunch of other executives and CEO's.  If we're on the brink of collapse, the people pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this community certainly don't know about it.  I've never see so many mansions, new residential developments, office parks, restaurants, banks, etc...

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« Reply #46 on: November 16, 2010, 12:14:49 AM »

I don't understand him

I live in a depressed area (the Midwest), I'm living good (without working as hard as I should), people here are living good.  

I'm extremely critical of the United States, everyone knows that but Samson/24KT take it to a whole new delusional level.


I just got back from John's Creek, Georgia.  Home of Tyler Perry, Raven-Symone, Usher, the president of Home Depot, and a bunch of other executives and CEO's.  If we're on the brink of collapse, the people pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this community certainly don't know about it.  I've never see so many mansions, new residential developments, office parks, restaurants, banks, etc...


ARRRRGH... YEEEESH... YIKES... GONDOLAMMA!!!! YOU'RE MELTING DOWN AND MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN!!!!  AHHHHH AHHHHH... grrrr...



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« Reply #47 on: November 16, 2010, 12:16:53 AM »

ARRRRGH... YEEEESH... YIKES... GONDOLAMMA!!!! YOU'RE MELTING DOWN AND MENTALLY BREAKING DOWN!!!!  AHHHHH AHHHHH... grrrr...



haha  Cheesy

You're right Samson/24KT!

Our country is in chaos, I'm starving here (bread line closed for the night) and a stray dog just ran by my broken window with a human hand!!!

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« Reply #48 on: November 16, 2010, 12:30:59 AM »

What can I say, our country is in chaos, I'm starving here (bread line closed for the night) and a stray dog just ran by my broken window with a human hand!!!

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