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Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« on: January 03, 2011, 09:23:27 AM »
Great collumn, maybe one of his best.

YES, THE GREATEST COUNTRY EVER
by Rich Lowry

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/256125/yes-greatest-country-ever-rich-lowry
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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 09:35:54 AM »
Great collumn, maybe one of his best.

YES, THE GREATEST COUNTRY EVER
by Rich Lowry

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/256125/yes-greatest-country-ever-rich-lowry

Oh thats' pure nonsense! 

Didn't you hear Cuba has universal health care? 

Or that Venezuela has aplan o help the middle class? 

Another hing, hw dare he ignore the great achievements of the USSR and th vast prosperity it helped bring about.   

Lowry should also be ashamd of himself for ignoring the brilliant achievements of albania, bulgaria, the former east germany, north korea, and pakistan.   


Pure revisionist history on his part.       

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 10:41:26 AM »
I like it.  He's right.   :)

Yes, the Greatest Country Ever
Our greatness is simply a fact.

When the likes of Marco Rubio, the new Republican senator from Florida, say this is the greatest country ever, sophisticated opinion-makers cluck and roll their eyes. What a noxious tea-party nostrum. How chauvinistic. What hubris.

Yet, what other countries deserve this designation? For the sake of convenience, start at 1648, when the Peace of Westphalia ratified the modern system of nation-states. And grade on power, prosperity and goodness.

Is Spain the greatest ever? It had a nice run a couple of hundred years ago based on plundering the New World of its gold and silver. By 1800, it was one of the poorest countries in Europe. Today, it teeters on bankruptcy.

Is France? Its model of centralizing monarchy in the 17th century was extremely influential, and admirable — if you like elaborate court ritual, religious persecution and expansionistic wars. It gave the world the template for modern ideological madness in the French Revolution and for the modern tyrant in Napoleon. After the debacle of World War II, it recovered to a power of middling rank. If there’s no doubting the greatness of the French, their history comes with the implicit admonition: “Do not try this at home.”

Germany? In the 18th and 19th centuries, it was a cultural jewel. And one of the most talented statesmen ever, Bismarck, forged a nation that became an industrial behemoth. It also had an illiberal heart. Germany today is an anchor of democratic Europe, but with a hellish black mark against it that will last for all time.

Russia? By the beginning of the 20th century, a decrepit autocracy sat atop a mass of misery. Then, things went south. The communists murdered and enslaved many millions across seven decades. Russia remains an important, if vastly diminished, power, governed by a prickly, grasping kleptocracy.

Britain? Getting warmer. It invented the rights that are the bedrock of liberal democracy. More than most European powers, it lived by Adam Smith’s formula for prosperity: “peace, easy taxes, and a tolerable administration of justice.” From a tiny island, it came to govern an enormous extent of the globe in a relatively benign colonialism. It was a bulwark against the dictatorships of the Continent, from Napoleon, to the Kaiser, to Hitler. And it spawned the countries that have made the English-speaking world a synonym for good governance and liberty: Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and America.

Which brings us to the U.S. We had the advantage of jumping off from the achievement of the British. We founded our nation upon self-evident truths about the rights of man, even if our conduct hasn’t always matched them. We pushed aside Spain and Mexico in muscling across the continent, but brought order and liberty in our wake. Our treatment of the Indians was appalling, but par for the course in the context of the time. It took centuries of mistreatment of blacks before we finally heeded our own ideals.

The positive side of the ledger, though, is immense: We got constitutional government to work on a scale no one had thought possible; made ourselves a haven of liberty for the world’s peoples; and created a fluid, open society. We amassed unbelievable wealth, and spread it widely. Internationally, we wielded our overwhelming military and industrial power as a benevolent hegemon. We led the coalitions against the ideological empires of the 20th century and protected the global commons. We remain the world’s sole superpower, looked to by most of the world as a leader distinctly better than any of the alternatives.

Our greatness is simply a fact. Only the churlish or malevolent can deny it, or even get irked at its assertion. When a Marco Rubio talks of the greatness of America, it’s not bumptious self-congratulation. Our greatness comes with the responsibility to preserve our traditional dynamism and status as a robust middle-class society. To paraphrase the Benjamin Franklin of lore, we have the greatest country ever — if we can keep it.

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 11:07:33 AM »
LOL @ the author failing to mention china, who pretty much feeds us with the $ they give us every day.


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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 12:51:46 PM »
LOL @ the author failing to mention china, who pretty much feeds us with the $ they give us every day.



Oh, man 240, I hope you dont really believe our prosperity depends on China. Incidentally, he should have mentioned China just because of its population and the effect it has had in world history. But it would be mostly negative. He also should have talked about Japan.
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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 04:25:27 PM »
Maybe he didn't mention China or Japan (or Canada, Cuba, Argentina, etc.) because they are not the "greatest country ever."  He didn't have to mention any.   

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2011, 06:11:14 AM »

January 4, 2011
Can the Spending Be Stopped?
By Rich Lowry


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President Obama's first two years in office were for the ages: Rarely has so much been spent so wantonly with so little discernible public benefit.

Nondefense discretionary spending accounted for $434 billion of the federal budget in 2008, without widespread deprivation or riots in the streets. This was the year that then-candidate Obama promised to scour the budget line by line for waste and said in one presidential debate that his program would be a net spending cut.

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In 2010, such spending was $537 billion of the budget, a 24 percent increase. Throw in the stimulus and its $259 billion of discretionary spending -- a category that excludes entitlements -- and the run-up is much higher. Most departments saw double-digit increases, and some saw triple-digit increases. For the federal government, 2008-2010 were the fat years.

Obama's personal style -- emotionally buttoned up and physically fit -- is utterly at odds with his sloppy governance. Congress passed bills without knowing what was in them, and took the recession as warrant to spend with no serious regard to merit or consequences. The resulting bursting-at-the-seams federal behemoth is about to have its turn on "The Biggest Loser."

The election of 2010 wasn't about the two parties getting along, although all things being equal many people would prefer that they did; it wasn't about defeating incumbents, although many of them lost; it was about a simple three-word slogan that captured the essence of the Republican program: "Stop the Spending."

Since the end of the Bush administration, the Democratic plaint has been that Republicans are shameless budget poseurs. They talk like fiscal hawks, but they never deliver. The Tea Party opposes government only in theory. This line of argument will soon be abandoned in favor of the charge that Republicans are waging a cruel assault on the federal budget.

This isn't Tom DeLay's GOP Congress, fat and happy in Washington. It's fired with an ardor to deliver on its promise to limit government. Nearly 90 GOP caucus members are freshmen, shaped in the crucible of the Tea Party. In this context, Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan -- who has a far-reaching plan to reform taxes and entitlements -- is practically the establishment.

The first order of business is to take nondefense discretionary spending back to 2008 levels. A two-year rollback doesn't sound overly ambitious, even though it would represent more than a 20 percent cut in spending. This would be a spectacular feat, less like turning an ocean liner around than throwing it in reverse and backing it up. Every inertial force in Washington will resist this change.

House Republicans will have to match their zeal with strategic canny. The larger argument over the size of government in this country is far from settled. The Republican political goal must be to make a government-cutting agenda seem reasonable and practicable rather than the obverse of Obama's spending recklessness. The temptation will be to try to win everything in one big throw, in a confrontation over raising the debt ceiling or shutting down the government. These are significant points of leverage, but ones that must be handled with care lest Republicans repeat the Newt Gingrich shutdown debacle of the mid-1990s.

As long as Republicans carry the public argument, the vistas of the possible will widen. If President Obama is unlikely ever to pronounce "the era of big government is over" like Bill Clinton (prematurely) did in 1995, he can't persist in a mindless cataract of red ink, either. He'll have to offer his own version of spending cuts, or explain why tax increases are preferable. Even he will declare the status quo intolerable.

After a carnival of spending, it is the Lenten season. It is time to reflect on and repent of our excess. The question is no longer how much more, it's how much less. The binge is over.

Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review.
© 2010 by King Features Syndicate.

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2011, 06:15:03 AM »
 The greatest country is the one which launched the 1st man into space and delivered man on Mars! And it's what? It's Russia!

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 07:53:13 AM »
Maybe he didn't mention China or Japan (or Canada, Cuba, Argentina, etc.) because they are not the "greatest country ever."  He didn't have to mention any.   

I think the reason he didnt mention China or Japan is that they have not had enough of a hegemonic effect on the world (quite the opposite in the case of Japan). Yes, they were powerhouses within thier own region, they were the most prosperous in ancient times, and they have had a significant economic effect on the world in the 20th and early 21st centurys, but they havent really spread themselves or thier ideals throughout the world.
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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 09:34:43 AM »
I think the reason he didnt mention China or Japan is that they have not had enough of a hegemonic effect on the world (quite the opposite in the case of Japan). Yes, they were powerhouses within thier own region, they were the most prosperous in ancient times, and they have had a significant economic effect on the world in the 20th and early 21st centurys, but they havent really spread themselves or thier ideals throughout the world.

 What ideas the US have had spread exactly?

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Re: Yes, the Greatest Country Ever by RICH LOWRY
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 09:37:12 AM »
I think the reason he didnt mention China or Japan is that they have not had enough of a hegemonic effect on the world (quite the opposite in the case of Japan). Yes, they were powerhouses within thier own region, they were the most prosperous in ancient times, and they have had a significant economic effect on the world in the 20th and early 21st centurys, but they havent really spread themselves or thier ideals throughout the world.

Good point.

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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2011, 09:49:12 AM »
 Russia, China, India, Japan are self-sufficient, that's the strongest idea ever.
 America is yet having to prove it's self. America never fought real deal on it's soil, it had had a so so civil war and that's it. It needs just prove itself, America is a kid or a fast grown monster without any credit as of yet!  ::)

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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2011, 10:14:40 AM »
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