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« Reply #250 on: January 20, 2006, 07:37:55 AM »
Ahhh...home sweet home.  I was feeling a little left out as of late without all the Jodi bashing.  It's nice to see the latest round has begun just as I'm beginning to get ready for my shows this year.  All the more reason for me to be the bitch I am in the gym and do what I do...drug free...again.  It's okay.  Don't hate because you don't have the gumption or patience or self control to do it this way.  Over fifteen years of busting my ass in the gym and working hard, people.  What do some of you know about that?

Get a life...get a job...get to a gym.  Do something besides make yourselves look completely incompetent, dense, and lazy.
Jodi, I don't think the 'hating' is for the training, the shows, etc. - those efforts cannot help but be respected. I think it is for the attention whoring you do on these boards. Your efforts push excessive and are seen as both trying and cloying. Maybe tone it down.     

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« Reply #251 on: January 20, 2006, 08:02:33 AM »
I say Christiane is beautiful and hope to meet her myself this year. 

Thanks for the hook-up, Christian!

Thanks Tre and Gene! Gene did some amazing work with Christiane. She didn't get to work directly win Tre yet, but maybe in the near future (hopefully :) ).

Thanks for the positive comments guys, I'm sure she'll appreciate it.

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« Reply #252 on: January 20, 2006, 11:05:18 AM »
Ahhh...home sweet home.  I was feeling a little left out as of late without all the Jodi bashing.  It's nice to see the latest round has begun just as I'm beginning to get ready for my shows this year.  All the more reason for me to be the bitch I am in the gym and do what I do...drug free...again.  It's okay.  Don't hate because you don't have the gumption or patience or self control to do it this way.  Over fifteen years of busting my ass in the gym and working hard, people.  What do some of you know about that?

Get a life...get a job...get to a gym.  Do something besides make yourselves look completely incompetent, dense, and lazy.

This thread was originally intended to be a tribute to the very apparent all-natural female bodybuilders who have had the patience and dedication (and necessary thick-skin and courage!) to build their lovely 100% FEMININE figures through years of intelligent weight-training/bodybuilding!

Also, this thread was intended to try and show female Getbig website visitors that it is truly possible to develop the female figure beautifully (and build tremendous strength!), NATURALLY, and in a HEALTHY fashion, as the original pioneers of weight-training/physical-culture intended (and demonstrated over-and-over in their publications!)…i.e. men like Bernarr McFadden, Mark Berry, George Jowett, Earle Liedermann, Peary Rader, and yes, Bob Hoffman, and Joe Weider...and have been so aptly displayed by women like Katrina Sandwina, Abbye Stockton, Jan Todd, and legions more (some already beautifully highlighted on this thread)!

In this era of a bodybuilding culture/lifestyle replete with sordid, illegal drug-using/drug-dealing, practitioners, who want overnight BB progress and are willing to sacrifice their precious health to get "freakishly big and ripped” at ANY PRICE (what stupidity and weakness of character!), it is understandable that the few women (like Jodi), and men, who courageously publicly proclaim, practice, and support, the all-natural path to bodybuilding success are going to be disbelieved, ridiculed, personally insulted, called names, and even threatened…just consider the drug-crazed/psychotic, ignorant, weak character, sources of these detractors!!!

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« Reply #253 on: January 21, 2006, 07:54:36 PM »
Alot of these threads are intended to "educate" women/the general public about bodybuilding.  Being a female and loving to workout, there are no worthy female role models and nothing to aspire to, especially when everyone is cheating. 

From what I've seen, female bodybuilders take one of two paths:  STEROIDS or PORNOGRAPHY (...or both).  And most of them are hypocrites for criticizing the integrity of the industry (as it if ever had any) but then ultimately following suit.

^Concur.

I think it's pathetic that some of these women turn to pornography, yet still expect to be taken seriously when they compete.

Melissa Detwiller comes to mind.  I have nothing against porn at all, just that you can't do that on one hand and then enter shows and not expect that to count against you in the minds of some judges and the fans as well.

Doesn't work that way.

Oh yeah.......almost forgot.......Denise Masino.   ::)

She is the epitome of this......




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« Reply #254 on: January 22, 2006, 12:33:53 AM »
Why are pornography and bodybuilding so intertwined?  Women like this are bad examples for girls interested/starting out in bodybuilding.  This kind of exposure only brings negativity to the industry and that is why no one supports it.

http://media.putfile.com/jodimillerhoetel


What really has amused me about Jodi is that she always throws up that she has a degree in English and soem other degree but yet she chooses to do that for money.  If it is not for money, is it some kind of perversion perhaps?  It is a trend with all competing girls.

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« Reply #255 on: January 22, 2006, 01:07:18 AM »
Why are pornography and bodybuilding so intertwined?  Women like this are bad examples for girls interested/starting out in bodybuilding.  This kind of exposure only brings negativity to the industry and that is why no one supports it.

http://media.putfile.com/jodimillerhoetel

^I'm not sure what to say.....

You can't assume that Jodi did anything sexual from that clip, but it sure implies alot.

She has a BA in English, so she's intelligent, though she makes decisions that belie that intelligence at times it seems.




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« Reply #256 on: January 22, 2006, 01:14:17 AM »
I f@#in hate tatoos and peircings on women.

Oh my goodness. What about ears?  :o  Do ears count? My ears are pierced?  ;)
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« Reply #257 on: January 22, 2006, 01:27:33 AM »
Jodi bringing her "A" game!!

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« Reply #258 on: January 22, 2006, 01:35:35 AM »
I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.
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« Reply #259 on: January 22, 2006, 01:46:01 AM »
Its a free clip Jodi. A free Preview.hahahahahah

MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #260 on: January 22, 2006, 01:56:10 AM »
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

I have seen the whole video when it was on Mayhem.  You were like sucking your fingers and batting your eyes.  Brian Moss?  Nobody even cares about him.  Look at his stupid ass site.  Look at you.  You are featured on a site with a naked Murderer (Kelly Ryan) and you honestly think that casts you in a good light?   What is wrong with you?  Show me one "Free Preview" or picture on Brian Moss` site that isn`t intended to induce a sexual thought?  How come all of the videos are shot in some shitty 20 dollar hotel room on the bed?  Since when did it take laying on  a bed in underwear  to display your "hard work".  Is that really the best way your "hard work" can be displayed? 

Honestly,  are you happy doing that to yourself?  Would you want an aspiring young girl to see that?  What is the point of it?   

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« Reply #261 on: January 22, 2006, 02:01:26 AM »
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.

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« Reply #262 on: January 22, 2006, 02:09:34 AM »
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.



Come back to reality.   I was just offering a commentary on your "performance."  What do you think if you showed that clip to 10 random people and then asked them what they thought about it?  Do you think they would say, "Wow, Wonderful performance!"?   

What is even stranger, I saw an online interview with you when you were speaking about the integrity of the sport and how it should be rescued.   Do you think your videos further the integrity or did you just do it for the money ala` Joanna Thomas?

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« Reply #263 on: January 22, 2006, 02:12:06 AM »
Come back to reality.   I was just offering a commentary on your "performance."  What do you think if you showed that clip to 10 random people and then asked them what they thought about it?  Do you think they would say, "Wow, Wonderful performance!"?   

What is even stranger, I saw an online interview with you when you were speaking about the integrity of the sport and how it should be rescued.   Do you think your videos further the integrity or did you just do it for the money ala` Joanna Thomas?
i don't think you can compare what joanna thomas does and what jodi does.

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« Reply #264 on: January 22, 2006, 02:14:34 AM »
I did just view the link, and yes, it is a preview, and I just wrote to Ron to state that.  The link to the full video has been posted previously, and when Brian was notified, he stated that he would make sure the material was removed immediately.  He was disgruntled with the copyrighted material being made available anywhere else other than my site or his.  So, one can understand I would jump to conclusions when I see a link to a video and subsequent judgments of me.

Either way, the slanderous and libelous remarks need to stop now.



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What in the world is slanderous?  Where have I stated something FALSE?   You are off.

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« Reply #265 on: January 22, 2006, 02:15:27 AM »
And look at you, Adonis.  You are choosing to publicly judge and slander someone who hasn't said word one about you on this board.

If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.
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« Reply #266 on: January 22, 2006, 02:24:34 AM »
And look at you, Adonis.  You are choosing to publicly judge and slander someone who hasn't said word one about you on this board.

If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.

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The act of presenting such material to the public.


To be Libelious or Slanderous the matter in question has to be FALSE.  That is YOU in the video and your actions ARE sexual in nature.   Again, you are off.  Im not attacking you.  You did the video and the video is presented as such.  Who  do you really think that your videos and pictures are marketed to?  I can tell you.   The Chad Mowers, Tres and anyone looking for a 5 mintues of "self-time".  You want to play the all high and mighty game, like you are above the rest of your fitness and bodybuilding brethren, when you fall in the exact same category. 




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« Reply #267 on: January 22, 2006, 02:33:38 AM »
If you have a problem with me, then act like a man and talk to me directly.

This goes for anyone:  if you don't like my pictures, then simply don't look at them.  Simple as that.

Jodi,

I don't think the issue is with people thinking you are doing porn per say, but with the implication of you being on the same website with other fitness women who are.  Obviously it's your choice to do so, but to think you won't have people who will judge you for it (rightly or wrongly) is unrealistic.  As Adonis explained, this guy Brian Moss has other women doing pornography on his site and you being associated with the site will bring all the baggage along with it, essentially lumping you in with the women who did choose to pose nude.

I can appreciate the fact that you probably did it for the money, there's nothing wrong with that.  Just be aware of the criticism that will come with it, that's all.

This has always been my opinion on this issue, as you well know.  Nothing's changed on that front.  I didn't like the webcam idea, either.....

Nothing personal, Jodi, it's just how I feel on this.....




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« Reply #268 on: January 22, 2006, 02:38:16 AM »
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

"Slanderous statements?"  Did I say anything false?  Is that not you in the video?  I am simply voicing my opinion about a FREE PREVIEW video clip available to the ENTIRE world.  Ban me for what?  Obviously there's something you're upset about.  Are you gonna get this bent out of shape over one woman's opinion of you?  Do you expect rave reviews on your video just because you're Jodi Miller?  Who the hell is that?  You want me banned because I don't kiss your ass?  What have I done wrong?  This isn't Mayhem.      
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« Reply #269 on: January 22, 2006, 05:38:54 PM »
I didn't do anything sexual in that clip or any other.  You do not see my nipples.  You do not see my crotch.  I do not play with myself nor stick anything inside of me.  I display a hard-earned physique in Victoria's Secret lingerie.  What a horrible, horrible, horrible person I am for doing that, right?  Whatever.

I'm so sick and tired of the slanderous statements and have written an e-mail to Ron to remove the copyrighted video (Brian Moss's lawyer has been contacted each time that video is linked; only he and I legally own the rights to that video) as well as a banning of both Jezebelle and The True Adonis.

This board has gone downhill.  Very few women with true identities rather than anonymous labels openly post here on a regular basis, except to garner business for their sites or for contest votes.  The female community does not take this board seriously, partly because one cannot win for losing.  I ignore the malicious statements and they continue regardless.  I defend myself and state the truth, and I get bombarded by people I have never met, people who are anonymous and seem to have nothing better to do with their lives but to judge strangers.

Ron needs to run a tighter ship or he will watch all of the good female competitors disappear.  Ron, you know it already...most of us have already walked away.

Thin Lizzy, thank you for the compliment.  I will continue to bring my A game every single time I step on stage.

I am new to Getbig.  But I thought this was the “Gossip and Opinions” board where you can post “whatever is on your mind, and discuss all.”   I voice my opinion about something real—no baseless attack—and someone has five of my posts deleted from this thread.  I was simply sharing my thoughts on why certain material is not healthy for the bodybuilding industry. 

Could the mods please tell me what is and what is not allowed to be said?  Can I not post valid links, state facts about material on the free website www.shemuscle.com, quote another member, question another member, or say the words “pornography” or “meltdown?”

I am absolutely sure I am not alone in my opinion on the matter discussed in this thread.  Why have I been singled out?  Adonis and Div have expressed the same opinions on this thread.  Why didn't they're posts get erased?  I joined this board because I thought it allowed for more freedom than others--i.e. Mayhem.  I’ve noticed that I am one of very few female Getbig members.  If you plan on keeping them and gaining support from more females, then the double standards must stop.


Also Jodi,

If you can’t handle my commentary about you and your videos, then why don’t you contact me personally (just like you asked Adonis to) instead of crying to the mods? 
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« Reply #270 on: January 22, 2006, 06:52:13 PM »
You shouldn't delete my posts because you think I am Adonis.  .  He didn't tell me to post any of this. 
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« Reply #271 on: January 22, 2006, 09:05:55 PM »
why do you care what Jodi does if you dont like her stop looking at her pictures and stop posting a response

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« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2006, 05:43:30 PM »
Has anyone stopped to think the ridiculous, ignorant, naive, direction this thread has taken??!

First of all, female sexual images/innuendos are used to market just about EVERYTHING in our materialistic, exploitive, money-hungry, uptight, “cart-before-the horse” society!  A society that gets all “bent-out-of-shape” over sexual images that children might see, but hardly “bats-an-eye” (relatively speaking!) at the brutal, graphic, violence the mass media regularly “feeds” our impressionable youth…and, then we act “shocked” at their age-bracket’s horrific crime rate!???.

Yes, accomplished weight-trained women with beautiful figures market themselves on the web as apparent “sex objects’ in suggestive poses…e.g. Jodi, Rhonda, Dina, Melissa, etc…and where one draws the line as to where “a tasteful display of their feminine physical charms ends and pornography begins” is strictly a matter of personal PERCEPTION.

Most all of us would agree that photos of Denise Masino (and her photo/video companions) in MEM, along with her advertised videos, would qualify as real “pornography” with their blatant sexual intent…e.g. placing objects in their vaginas, lesbian poses/activities, etc…as PERCEIVED by the general public. 

However, Dina, Jodi, and Rhonda, on the other hand, present themselves in a much more
artistic and tasteful display of their sexuality in their pics./videos, that the general public would not PERCEIVE as being “pornographic” in nature (by relative comparison)!  As one of these gals said, “their pics. are tasteful photos that they would not be ashamed to show their families (words to the effect)”!

It is like comparing the tasteful, artistic, female photo displays in Playboy mag. (similar to Dina, e.g) versus those with a definite very apparent PERCEIVED pornographic slant/intent of the Penthouse and Hustler mags. approach (e.g. similar to Denise Masino’s and MEM).

However, all such photo/video displays are presently “legal” and, if you don’t like it…simply don’t look at it, or seek it out!

Sadly, all of the Getbig forum never-ending personal attacks, libelous comments, ignorant stereotyping, and name-calling (all usually directed at total strangers!??) is the height of publicly displaying ones' ignorance and immaturity!  But, I suppose this is “freedom of expression” in its worst light!!

 

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« Reply #273 on: January 24, 2006, 02:11:52 PM »
Geting this thread back on track...ALL-NATURAL female bodybuilding competitor: KRISTI SANDERS...


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« Reply #274 on: January 24, 2006, 04:49:19 PM »
Of course, long, long, before (i.e. some 30-40 years before!!) the "resurgence" of female bodybuilding in the 1980's, with the likes of Lisa Lyons, Rachel McLish, Cory Everson, etc., there was ABBYE "PUDGY" STOCKTON; who was probably the "original" female bodybuilder...during the era of the 1940's and 1950's, when it was considered "unfeminine" to exercise and sweat!!  And, Abbye was as ALL-NATURAL a female bodybuilder as you can get!

Abbye Stockton's VERY INSPIRATIONAL biography/story is available at the URL...

http://www.aafla.org/SportsLibrary/IGH/IGH0201/IGH0201c.pdf

As Jan Todd stated in her above cited excellent article on Abbye..."every woman bodybuilder who puts on a swimsuit and steps up on the posing dias, every woman weightlifter who strains under a clean and jerk, and every woman powerlifter who fights through the pull of a heavy deadlift owes a debt of gratitude to Abbye 'Pudgy' Stockton".

Below, are some inspirational pics. of Abbye...and she achieved these impressive results in developing her figure through weight-training way back in the '40's/'50's "dark ages" of knowledge on exercise/diet!!