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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2011, 02:49:38 PM »
The only thing Arnold had going for him was a massive rib cage.  Coleman's chest shits all over Arnolds.

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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2011, 03:02:43 PM »
The only thing Arnold had going for him was a massive rib cage.  Coleman's chest shits all over Arnolds.

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And i agree about the original post... Dorian said something like "If i benched 135lbs when i started and was still only benching 135lbs today, my chest would be exactly the same size"... i agree you need to push your own limits and get stronger in order to get bigger.

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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 03:05:05 PM »
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And i agree about the original post... Dorian said something like "If i benched 135lbs when i started and was still only benching 135lbs today, my chest would be exactly the same size"... i agree you need to push your own limits and get stronger in order to get bigger.
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2011, 03:11:03 PM »
The only thing Arnold had going for him was a massive rib cage.  Coleman's chest shits all over Arnolds.

The only thing Ronnie's chest had that Arnold's didn't was bitch-tits  ;D

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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2011, 03:14:11 PM »
ND = no muscle skinny old dude who used to have delusions of being well-muscled back in the 70's and 80's when he was 160lbs 15%bf after 10 years of following the weider principles and now bashes new age mass monsters because of his extreme insecurities about his own lack of manly muscle

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2011, 03:14:33 PM »
ND arnie had a great chest, but compared to ronnie's or dorians its small. same with haney


I don't see how anybody could come to this conclusion based on visuals.

Arnold just had far better chest genetics than Ronnie, better shape, more pronounced rib cage.
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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2011, 03:16:42 PM »

I don't see how anybody could come to this conclusion based on visuals.

Arnold just had far better chest genetics than Ronnie, better shape, more pronounced rib cage.

arnolds chest was relatively larger than his delts, arms, etc. ronnie had monstrous delts , traps, arms, etc.  arnolds chest stands out more in pictures, but if you cut the pectorals off his body and put them on a scale next to ronnies pectorals ronnie would have twice the pec mass.

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2011, 03:19:18 PM »
ND = no muscle skinny old dude who used to have delusions of being well-muscled back in the 70's and 80's when he was 160lbs 15%bf after 10 years of following the weider principles and now bashes new age mass monsters because of his extreme insecurities about his own lack of manly muscle

this is your response? this is the best you can manage?

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2011, 03:21:19 PM »
arnolds chest was relatively larger than his delts, arms, etc. ronnie had monstrous delts , traps, arms, etc.  arnolds chest stands out more in pictures, but if you cut the pectorals off his body and put them on a scale next to ronnies pectorals ronnie would have twice the pec mass.

lmfao twice the pec mass , oh boy  ::)

how about you compare them at the same weight and see who has the bigger pecs?  ;) and that's still not a fair comparison because Ronnie is shorter

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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2011, 03:22:51 PM »
arnolds chest was relatively larger than his delts, arms, etc. ronnie had monstrous delts , traps, arms, etc.  arnolds chest stands out more in pictures, but if you cut the pectorals off his body and put them on a scale next to ronnies pectorals ronnie would have twice the pec mass.

I don't see it. There is the extra overall mass to consider, but factor in the differences with the drug protocals and you would expect that.

The overall effect is that Arnold's chest looks bigger and more prominent and thats the rub. Visually for whatever reasons Arnolds chest looks better.

Ron would have nowhere near twice the pec mass, you put them at same bodyweight be it 180lb, 220lb 260lb Arnold has a bigger chest.
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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2011, 03:25:22 PM »
I don't see it. There is the extra overall mass to consider, but factor in the differences with the drug protocals and you would expect that.

The overall effect is that Arnold's chest looks bigger and more prominent and thats the rub. Visually for whatever reasons Arnolds chest looks better.

Ron would have nowhere near twice the pec mass, you put them at same bodyweight be it 180lb, 220lb 260lb Arnold has a bigger chest.

Exactly , drop them down to equal weight and who's chest is bigger and better?

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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2011, 03:27:46 PM »
ND = no muscle skinny old dude who used to have delusions of being well-muscled back in the 70's and 80's when he was 160lbs 15%bf after 10 years of following the weider principles and now bashes new age mass monsters because of his extreme insecurities about his own lack of manly muscle

You must have low self perception to be calling people out looking the way you do.
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2011, 03:28:51 PM »
I've had my hands all over Ronnie and Arnold's pecs.

Their chests weren't the only things that were hard that night!

Wait.....what ???

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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2011, 03:30:40 PM »
You must have low self perception to be calling people out looking the way you do.

His response was an ad hominem attack , last ditch effort of a man who has nothing to work with.

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2011, 03:31:00 PM »
I've had my hands all over Ronnie and Arnold's pecs.

Their chests weren't the only things that were hard that night!

Wait.....what ???

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2011, 03:33:27 PM »
I've had my hands all over Ronnie and Arnold's pecs.

Their chests weren't the only things that were hard that night!

Wait.....what ???

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2011, 03:41:01 PM »
Arnold would look like a complete twink next to Ronnie... if they were both onstage hitting a side chest it would be laughable.

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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2011, 03:43:50 PM »
Arnold would look like a complete twink greek statue next to Ronnie... if they were both onstage hitting a side chest it would be laughable at how much of a mess the Ronster looked in comparison.


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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2011, 03:44:12 PM »
Ronnie wouldn't be able to use heavier weight if he did full rom with slow negatives.

I still believe Levrone is the superior presser.
Apparently Ron does his ROM like that to keep tension on his pecs...
Levrone is a textbook presser, but it seems his tris do a lot a work, as it seems that they take a brunt of the work. Whereas Ronnie, whose tris are not that prominant, but chest is standout...like JOJ's.

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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2011, 03:45:31 PM »
Arnold would look like a complete twink next to Ronnie... if they were both onstage hitting a side chest it would be laughable.

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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2011, 03:46:59 PM »
It's stupid to compare arnold and colmens chest without compairing there waist....Point proven..
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2011, 03:57:01 PM »
Classic ND response, showing a good shot of his favorite and showing bad shots of the person he opposes.  The last ditch effort of someone who has no grounds for argument other than his ever lustful taste for cock.

Fact is, Coleman's chest makes Arnie look like an NPC amateur at best.  Arnold had a great chest for his time, probably the best of that era, but comparing him to anyone of the top guys in the past 20 years just shows how completely blind and biased you are. 

I'll expect another 20 bad shots of Coleman to prove your point now.

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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2011, 04:01:28 PM »
Classic ND response, showing a good shot of his favorite and showing bad shots of the person he opposes.  The last ditch effort of someone who has no grounds for argument other than his ever lustful taste for cock.

Fact is, Coleman's chest makes Arnie look like an NPC amateur at best.  Arnold had a great chest for his time, probably the best of that era, but comparing him to anyone of the top guys in the past 20 years just shows how completely blind and biased you are. 

I'll expect another 20 bad shots of Coleman to prove your point now.


Chests haven't got better. Simple as. You want to compare quads you may have a point.
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Re: this is how you train chest!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2011, 04:01:51 PM »
One of the main things is that nobody does the side chest shot like Arnold and company, the last person to do it was I think Shawn Ray...if more guys posed like that, I think more emphasis on chest will be made, and there would be better comparison's of today's vs the yesterdays.

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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2011, 04:05:18 PM »
Classic ND response, showing a good shot of his favorite and showing bad shots of the person he opposes.  The last ditch effort of someone who has no grounds for argument other than his ever lustful taste for cock.

Fact is, Coleman's chest makes Arnie look like an NPC amateur at best.  Arnold had a great chest for his time, probably the best of that era, but comparing him to anyone of the top guys in the past 20 years just shows how completely blind and biased you are.  

I'll expect another 20 bad shots of Coleman to prove your point now.

That was to get you fan-boys all worked up and you fell for it  ;)

I just said lets make the comparison a little more fair , lets see how their chests compare to each other at about the same weight around 235lbs , your blanket statement hold no water now does it? you're bragging about how much bigger and better his chest is hen he outweighs Arnold by 50lbs HAHAHAHAHAHA fantastic logic  ::)

Arnold chest holds up very well in this day and age , his pecs were huge , fully developed , balanced and not lacking regardless of who outweighs him