mutation experiment = terminated

[Stavios]

You can get good size with only 150-175gr of protein a day..

look at the dude.. the irish dude from the board.. what's his name

goody

[chaos]

Days prior to my mutation experiment, I decided to get a full check-up.  My results came back with excess protein in my urine.  Further tests were ran it my doctors have advised me that my days of excess protein should cease and desist immediately, otherwise I could make a small problem large and end up on dialysis.

So my new goal is to shrink down to twink level 180-190 and lose alot of excess weight.  Fat and muscle to maintain a healthy rest of my life.  If anything will be used, it will be T-3, Ephedrine and caffine, maybe clen. low level gh low level test.  150-175gm of protein max.

Twink level.

Not gonna read all these shit responses.......whats your fat ass weigh now?

We should have a Wigglet VS FagPanda showdown!!!!!!  Post up some pics to compare to FagPanda for us Wiggins.

[225for70]

I hope what there saying at RX muscle isn't true...There saying that Wiggs is pulling a Flex wheeler...When Flex made up the story about the Ninja's who attacked him, and as a result he couldn't compete..

[Meso_z]

Days prior to my mutation experiment, I decided to get a full check-up.  My results came back with excess protein in my urine.  Further tests were ran it my doctors have advised me that my days of excess protein should cease and desist immediately, otherwise I could make a small problem large and end up on dialysis.

So my new goal is to shrink down to twink level 180-190 and lose alot of excess weight.  Fat and muscle to maintain a healthy rest of my life.  If anything will be used, it will be T-3, Ephedrine and caffine, maybe clen. low level gh low level test.  150-175gm of protein max.

Twink level.

Honestly, good luck. Thats the way to go..

[Wiggs]

I hope what there saying at RX muscle isn't true...There saying that Wiggs is pulling a Flex wheeler...When Flex made up the story about the Ninja's who attacked him, and as a result he couldn't compete..

lol.  I'd be honored if they even knew who I was over there.

And no chaos, no pics.

[_bruce_]

Cutler got away with around 250g a day in the early 2000s.
So a 100 should be ok for you.

[dj181]

You're right blackflag, protein IS WAY OVER-RATED for naturals.

[Parker]

Days prior to my mutation experiment, I decided to get a full check-up.  My results came back with excess protein in my urine.  Further tests were ran it my doctors have advised me that my days of excess protein should cease and desist immediately, otherwise I could make a small problem large and end up on dialysis.

So my new goal is to shrink down to twink level 180-190 and lose alot of excess weight.  Fat and muscle to maintain a healthy rest of my life.  If anything will be used, it will be T-3, Ephedrine and caffine, maybe clen. low level gh low level test.  150-175gm of protein max.

Twink level.

Welcome to my world. Dialysis or a transplant is inevitable for me.

Just cut back on the protein and calories, and just do cardio and light weights or bodyweight exercises...dips, pushups, pull ups, and you'll look better at 180, than most do at 240...and your pant size will have shrunk.

[wavelength]

lol, twink level at 190 lbs

[Firemuscle]

You're right blackflag, protein IS WAY OVER-RATED for naturals.

 It really is.

 When you are on steroids your body really uses that protien to build muscle so it's important to eat a lot.

 When you're natural. Your kidneys get hit with most of that protein, not your muscles.

 Protien is important for a natural but people don't need any more than like 100 grams per day usually.

[dj181]

Yeah man, I rarely if ever get more than 120 grams a day, and I most likely get about 80 to 100 grams most days. BTW, you is gonna get owned come April 15th, son

[First Blood]

if you're healthy then it's not a problem to eat 2-3g protein per kg bw and day ...and I don't see any reason to limit protein intake. I mean if there are potential benefits of eating up to 3g/kg and it's not dangerous then it makes sense to err on the side of abit too much, if you're looking to grow.

[Firemuscle]

Yeah man, I rarely if ever get more than 120 grams a day, and I most likely get about 80 to 100 grams most days. BTW, you is gonna get owned come April 15th, son

 Naw man on April 15th i'm gonna look just like Cutler. I bought some crazy shit at GNC that says it'll double my bench press. I'm gonna get huge.

[First Blood]

Naw man on April 15th i'm gonna look just like Cutler. I bought some crazy shit at GNC that says it'll double my bench press. I'm gonna get huge.

did you get some gakic (milosevic) ? 

[devilsmile]

holy shit wiggs....

Well to tell you the truth, since you've been "quite" and sensitive here lately even though you've been on the big cycle, I knew that something was wrong and you didn't feel good about it which made you unWiggs like in some cases.




But i hope all goes well with you man, you're one of my faverut white people here!

[dj181]

But the thing is 1st, if you don't really need so much protein then why make yourself force it down? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather "spend" my remaining cals on fats and carbs.

[Lundgren]

Dude you were fat as fuck for all that time, now when it`s down to get skinny your worried about your health epic cop out dude.

[First Blood]

But the thing is 1st, if you don't really need so much protein then why make yourself force it down? I don't know about you, but I'd much rather "spend" my remaining cals on fats and carbs.

I really don't understand your thinking, I mean if it can be beneficial (and it's not dangerous if your healthy, studies show this)..why not go with 2-3 g/kg/day? I mean if your in the gym busting your ass several days per week...why would you limit protein. (assuming you are healthy)

I understand that there are alot of myths in bodybuilding: you have to eat 6 times per day (every 3 hours..) etc and alot of bogus supplements.... but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater just because you want to be 'anti-establishment'.

[Palpatine Q]

Naw man on April 15th i'm gonna look just like Cutler. I bought some crazy shit at GNC that says it'll double my bench press. I'm gonna get huge.

BFRS  already "joking" his way out of the contest

[devilsmile]

BFRS  already "joking" his way out of the contest

 

well me, I think I'll jump in if my rotator cuff is in training order... all of a sudden it's not the ac tendon that's fucking me up, it's my rotator cuff.. hurts alot. I went to the doctor today and he thinks I have an infection between that and the joints but it's unlikely that there's any tears because I could do lateral raise movement while he held my arms (no homo), even thouh he couldn't hold them  . I got some medication for the infection and some super lotion to rob it on.

I was gonna take the pics of my shoulder just 40 minutes ago, but then I crashed my car and had to cancel the trip for tomorrow  ... no, really.... but as for now I can only hope that i actually DO NOT HAVE any tears.

[dj181]

"anti-establishment" I like that man, and it suits me just fine, fuck following da crowd Tell ya what though, over the summer I made sure to get 1 gram per pound of bodyweight, or 2.2 grams per kilo, and it didn't make one bit of goddamn difference in my results, I just lost some extra cash on protein powder, and that's all it did pour moi.

[Jaime]

"anti-establishment" I like that man, and it suits me just fine, fuck following da crowd Tell ya what though, over the summer I made sure to get 1 gram per pound of bodyweight, or 2.2 grams per kilo, and it didn't make one bit of goddamn difference in my results, I just lost some extra cash on protein powder, and that's all it did pour moi.

So Wiggs is white and you are black? This board gets confusing at times.

[pellius]

I often wonder about these interpretations of blood tests. There are some cultures that live solely on protein (well, protein and fats). I remember watching on National Geographic where this Arctic (or was it Antarctic) tribe just spends their lives following around the caribou. Everything they have comes from this animal. Their clothes, tents, candles, food... everything. There's just nothing else in that arctic wasteland. The meat I assume is pretty lean. But lets just say it's 30% fat. If they are eating 400 grams of meat a day 280 grams at 1,120 calories will come from protein and 120 grams at 1,080 calories will come from fats. This will give them about 2,200 calories a day. But chances are they need a lot more because of the extremely cold weather and that they are always moving.

Remember, your body, if necessary, does not need carbs to survive. Amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy but carbs can't be converted to amino acids which is second only to water as far as what your body is composed of.

[Parker]

I often wonder about these interpretations of blood tests. There are some cultures that live solely on protein (well, protein and fats). I remember watching on National Geographic where this Arctic (or was it Antarctic) tribe just spends their lives following around the caribou. Everything they have comes from this animal. Their clothes, tents, candles, food... everything. There's just nothing else in that arctic wasteland. The meat I assume is pretty lean. But lets just say it's 30% fat. If they are eating 400 grams of meat a day 280 grams at 1,120 calories will come from protein and 120 grams at 1,080 calories will come from fats. This will give them about 2,200 calories a day. But chances are they need a lot more because of the extremely cold weather and that they are always moving.

Remember, your body, if necessary, does not need carbs to survive. Amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy but carbs can't be converted to amino acids which is second only to water as far as what your body is composed of.

Those tribes in the Arctic aren't black. Blacks have some of the highest rates of kidney disease (I know i have it) and issues with protein. One of my theories is that our genetics  our kinda like a Ferrari or high performance car...there are very little tolerances, unlike say a Toyota, which has high tolerances. So there is a fine line one must walk..and our diets don't help to maintain that, especially the sodium and protein... 

[dr.chimps]

I often wonder about these interpretations of blood tests. There are some cultures that live solely on protein (well, protein and fats). I remember watching on National Geographic where this Arctic (or was it Antarctic) tribe just spends their lives following around the caribou. Everything they have comes from this animal. Their clothes, tents, candles, food... everything. There's just nothing else in that arctic wasteland. The meat I assume is pretty lean. But lets just say it's 30% fat. If they are eating 400 grams of meat a day 280 grams at 1,120 calories will come from protein and 120 grams at 1,080 calories will come from fats. This will give them about 2,200 calories a day. But chances are they need a lot more because of the extremely cold weather and that they are always moving.

Remember, your body, if necessary, does not need carbs to survive. Amino acids can be converted to glucose for energy but carbs can't be converted to amino acids which is second only to water as far as what your body is composed of.

Those were Arctic cultures. Emphasis on past tense. Very similar to the South Pacific ones, and who are now paying the price with a sorta 'rebound' effect with their diet -ie. the incidence of diabetes is off the charts due to cheap carb durables -eg. cheetos. I see the ones they fly in to my local hospital for care, almost every day, as they walk/move around the neighbourhood for air. Not pretty.