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« on: August 20, 2005, 06:08:53 AM »

As some of you saw in the Gossip thread, John Riggins reportedly passed away this weekend.  Iím posting these comments here rather than in the Gossip thread because on the whole, people in this forum (especially our mods) seem to be more open minded to the truth about sex and the reality of life for our body building friends.  Also, I didnít think nude pix of Riggins would be welcome in the other thread.

JR is the latest in a long line of bodybuilders (hustling to men) to pass away.  Some of you may not know this but it has happened a lot over the last few years.  I used to be on a gay muscle board similar to getbig but it was devoted almost exclusively to 1) muscle gossip and 2) to hooking up johns and muscle escorts.  I donít remember how I found that board but I was gay, interested in body building (lifting and watching), and it seemed harmless enough in the beginning.  Over time, though the board seemed to take a turn that I found distasteful--and I said so.

Every time a BB hustler would die (2-3 per year; letís just say they were never natural deaths) a chorus would go up from the board about how sad it was, how much they ďcaredĒ for the individual, and how they wished his family well.  I pointed out more than once that their collective requiem rang hollow because the very next day they were back to renting bodybuilders by the hour and writing reviews about who was good in the sac, what they were willing to do sexually, whether they were clock watchers, etc.  If they really 'cared' about these men they would be helping them get back on their feet and out of hustling because all too often escorting was literally a dead end.

My concerns were shouted down in a volley of hate mail from the Johns.  Eventually, I left that board because 1) I had no interest in hiring escorts and 2) I was interested in actually going to the gym and working out--something most of the guys on that board had no interest in.  Why work out for muscles when you can rent them by the hour?

Iím sure even now, the guys over on that board are Ďweepingí over the passing of JR (he was a popular escort over there), but by tonight they will be booking new appointments with other muscle whores.


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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2005, 06:20:23 AM »

Ok so the point of this was....

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2005, 06:39:53 AM »

the only thing developed on this dude was his chest everything else was pretty much average by bb'ing standards and not just IFBB standards even local NPC event standards, it's just sad that a dude would take enough juice to cause kidney damage and still look like nothing special, sad.
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2005, 06:55:39 AM »

I never saw him in competition but he appeard to have a good body back in the day.  And good eyebrows too... until he started plucking them.  Angry


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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2005, 06:59:25 AM »

the juice obviously wasn't doing anything for the dong, haha.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2005, 07:05:58 AM »

Obviously, people go to bodybuilders for their big muscles--not for cock size, but for a muscleman he was not thought to have an undersized dick.  I've seen a lot smaller.  Shocked  btw, juice does not affect dong size.  It can, however, shrink the testes.


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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2005, 07:15:26 AM »

the juice obviously wasn't doing anything for the dong, haha.

Why are you criticizing the size of another man's penis....

You're starting to worry me, holmes.   Undecided

You're not one of those dudes who lurks in the shower to see guys like me wash off.......unsuspecting.. .....are you?   Roll Eyes







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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2005, 07:20:29 AM »

Why are you criticizing the size of another man's penis....


rais ipsa loquitur 

Anyway, JR/RR was bootylicious.


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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2005, 07:59:39 AM »

feelin' a little insecure Div.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2005, 08:18:54 AM »

Scott Klein was another muscle escort who croaked in 2002.  Unlike many of the others, he seemed to have real BB potential for a while . . . but he was rumored to have synthol in his triceps.  Undecided


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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2005, 08:27:28 AM »

are they dying from drugs?
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2005, 08:28:04 AM »

the rumor is confirmed.
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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2005, 08:34:09 AM »

I also meant to add that no one can help those guys unless they want to help themselves. I don't know how many of them saved up their escorting proceeds to start another business or whatever... but unless they clearly want to change and move on..they won't.

I don't see anything wrong with them hustling... as long as it is safe..I just don't see it as a business one can do forever.
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2005, 08:37:25 AM »

are they dying from drugs?

Itís funny you should ask Dina. Whenever the deaths were reported (they were many) on the muscle gossip/escort board, all we were told is that the guy died.  If anyone dared to ask HOW the guy died they were immediately smacked down by one of the moderators for asking.  Some people were even banned for asking (they eventually came back under new identities). 

Whether or not one was even allowed to ask about the cause of death became the subject of a thread in itself.  Many people, like me, thought the question was a natural one people ask when someone young dies, but there were others who thought asking about the cause of death was evil, sinful, and cause for excommunication.  Strange. 

Androkid was another escort who croaked in 2003. I thought he had good BB potential too.


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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2005, 09:18:16 AM »

Iíve never been good at spotting synthol but lantern jaw is another matter.  Cheesy


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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2005, 09:28:18 AM »

I find it very odd that no one wants to say what they died from... could be OD and not AAS....  or disease... but it makes no sense that so many die young
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2005, 09:40:43 AM »

As I recall, Androkid died of a drug overdose.  Apprently, we weren't supposed to learn that but that is the news that came down. Cry


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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2005, 11:06:17 AM »

I don't want to go out on a limb here..but Bay.. are rec drugs used more often in gay sex encounters than straight ones?

I by no means want to imply that all gay men are into rec drugs, but I wonder if they are into it more that their straight counterparts....   any thoughts?




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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2005, 11:30:16 AM »

An interesting question I canít easily answer because 1) I am not privy to many straight sex encounters and 2) In some ways, I am out of the gay loop.  I donít know everything that goes on in the many slices of gay life. I can tell you that there IS a segment of the muscled gay population that likes to PNP or party and play as they say.  This is shorthand for using recreational drugs before, during, or after sex.  One can read about the popularity of this in almost any gay newspaper.

References to PNP are made all the time in gay personal ads; some welcoming it, some eschewing it.

Iíd be wary of any categorical statements about what all gay men do or all straight people do.  My sense is that in both gay and straight populations there is a segment that like to indulge in recreational drugs. 

Mike Betts was another popular muscle escort who croaked in 04.  There were quite a few others--for a while there they were dropping like flies--but these three are the ones I happen to remember and have access to photos of. 


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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2005, 11:40:33 AM »

Damn, it must be a lonely life those guys had.

RIP.

I don't know what caused their death, (steriods/ rec drugs/ suicide), but it's a shame they took that road. I can imagine it's not easy fucking (getting fucked by) some schmoe who's drooling over your biceps. It must have been pretty hard mentally.

That kind of hypocrisy you're talking about is disgusting. If they'd just admit it was only sex and they didnt care about him at all i would find it less repulsive.
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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2005, 12:22:15 PM »

I don't see anything wrong with them hustling... as long as it is safe..I just don't see it as a business one can do forever.

We had many ongoing debates about this on that board.  Since I ultimately left that board, I guess you could say I lost the debate, but with few exceptions, I think there IS something wrong with hustling--but not for the reasons you may think.

My problem with it, is that the guys who turn to it, very often do it because they donít think they have other options.  It is therefore a desperate undertaking and few people make good decisions when they are in a desperate state of mind.

For many hustlers--not all--tricking is an easy way to make money, but in this respect it is seductive and distracts from other avenues with better long term potential.  The romantic notion that many escorts and Johns live with is that the escort is socking away all his money, investing in real estate & stocks and will retire next year never having to worry about money again . . . 

Maybe someone, somewhere, at some point in history managed to do that, but many more escorts appear to spiral downward into drugs and for most it is a one way trip.  In the time I was on that board at least 10 muscle escorts turned up dead and none of them died from old age.

In most cases, the families of these guys who turn up dead, had no idea what was going on.  The Johns post a note of condolence on the escort board and move on to the next muscle whore who suits their fancy.

I just checked. That muscle/escort board is still going strong and there is a whole new crop of muscle men selling their wares.  In this respect it is very much like competitive body building.  For every pro that dies form AAS there are 10 guys ready to take his place certain that they can put together a better cocktail that is more effective and less toxic . .  . until it happens again Cry
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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2005, 12:32:55 PM »

Iíve never been good at spotting synthol but lantern jaw is another matter.  Cheesy

Jay Cutler should warn his little brother about the dangers of synthol and HGH use.
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2005, 12:34:35 PM »

It is a shame that they do not  choose to save their pennies...some I am sure could retire early if they were smart with investments etc etc Unfortunately there will always be a market for them... and may of the buyers really don't give a damn.
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2005, 12:51:24 PM »

Hereís a mockery for you.  Right up until his death Androkid was being publicly ďmentoredĒ by (who else?) another older escort on the muscleboard who called himself Big Luke.  It's sad to see such a young life thrown away.  Cry


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« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2005, 01:42:46 PM »

feelin' a little insecure Div.

Dude, I've been in the military standing naked in the cold with other naked guys waiting for open showers.....

You ask me about insecurity.........nugga please.   Been there, done that.

I just don't think it's cool for dudes to stare at your cock and balls like women do......






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