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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #275 on: June 18, 2008, 09:02:33 AM »
And why the hell can't they date each other? Fat people, old people, ugly people, disabled people -- straight AND gay -- marry and fuck each other every day in this world, and as often as the day is long. The idea that some dried-up old prune or some obese turd is only attracted to and can only fall in love with or get his rocks off by the sight of some young bodybuilder... well, there's some serious twisted psychological damage there. I can understand hiring someone for the occasional annual fantasy or bithday present -- but there's that twisted, sad 77 year old guy on that site who gushes about hiring one guy 35 times. And he is revered over there, like he is someone to be admired. There's also another regular poster there (with "rent" in his screen name) who brags about hiring almost every muscle escort publicly known to man, as if he owns some kind of collection of rare trading cards or something. True, money might not be an issue for those people, but what's the emotional trade-off?

Ew!  That's kind of gross!  Some of those bodybuilder/escorts do not look healthy.  :-X


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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #276 on: June 18, 2008, 04:21:11 PM »
 

Available for what exactly?  ::)

Available for rent! 

btw, he claims to be straight.  Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #277 on: June 18, 2008, 08:03:07 PM »
I have to say Zeb 'appeared' to be more "together" than to get sucked into gay porn...I believe he did some solo videos but that was it! Also, I want to say anyone has the right to love the person of his/her choice. There are all kinds of reasons why people hook up...a beautiful bodybuilder can love an out of shape 60+ guy, maybe they're soulmates and age and looks have nothing to do with it.

At the gym today I saw a two friends of mind ( gay couple) both are well over 40 but in great shape..never expect them to keep a dinner date or go to a party on time....they love each other so much they often "get lost" with each other. I have to admit I'm a bit jealous (hope the same will happen to me) but they are one of the reasons I stopped hiring escorts..just can't have that with cash always on the table....

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #278 on: June 19, 2008, 07:54:27 AM »
I have to say Zeb 'appeared' to be more "together" than to get sucked into gay porn...I believe he did some solo videos but that was it! Also, I want to say anyone has the right to love the person of his/her choice. There are all kinds of reasons why people hook up...a beautiful bodybuilder can love an out of shape 60+ guy, maybe they're soulmates and age and looks have nothing to do with it.

Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. But hope springs eternal!

BTW, there's a video that just surfaced of Matt Rush crying over him being "Sloppy seconds" to Jake Cruise for the sex scene with Zeb Atlas. Watching how upset Matt is over this is just... well, kinda bizarre. But I guess if your value system and self-worth revolve around sex, physical adoration, youth and beauty, that is to be expected.

Here's the video, which I am sure will end up on YouTube in no time...

http://rapidshare.de/files/39751615/matt_rush_cries__2_.flv.html

Play video with this: http://www.videospark.com/index.php?sp=18 

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #279 on: June 19, 2008, 12:09:16 PM »
Yeah, and I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. But hope springs eternal!

BTW, there's a video that just surfaced of Matt Rush crying over him being "Sloppy seconds" to Jake Cruise for the sex scene with Zeb Atlas. Watching how upset Matt is over this is just... well, kinda bizarre. But I guess if your value system and self-worth revolve around sex, physical adoration, youth and beauty, that is to be expected.

Here's the video, which I am sure will end up on YouTube in no time...

http://rapidshare.de/files/39751615/matt_rush_cries__2_.flv.html

Play video with this: http://www.videospark.com/index.php?sp=18 

Oh brother!  That video was a little too much drama for me.  I don't even want to know what that was all about!

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #280 on: June 19, 2008, 12:13:45 PM »
Is it just me,or are a lot of you being really hypocritical criticising the escorts and johns,but you can't get enough of looking at the pics and posts. Are you all republicans?

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #281 on: June 19, 2008, 02:33:47 PM »
Is it just me,or are a lot of you being really hypocritical criticising the escorts and johns,but you can't get enough of looking at the pics and posts. Are you all republicans?

In order to fit the true definition of "hypocrisy", we'd have to hire an escort right after viewing the pics or threads and posting about them here.

I think Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan are a hot mess too, but I don't partronize their films. Or whatever it is they do.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #282 on: June 19, 2008, 02:54:16 PM »
Is it just me,or are a lot of you being really hypocritical criticising the escorts and johns,but you can't get enough of looking at the pics and posts. Are you all republicans?

This forum is about the sex lives of bodybuilders and people interested in muscle.  One very real aspect of that is muscle escorting. With nearly 60,000 views over three years this is clearly a topic people on this board are interested in.  I don’t see anything hypocritical about that.  Nor is warning folks about the dangers of this path or mocking the absurdity of the drama surrounding it all (‘straight’ guys escorting to men?)  If you are curious, I have never hired a muscle escort—or any other kind of escort for that matter.

Haven’t we had this conversation before?  I seem to recall that two years ago you came to this very thread to tell us that this dialogue was beneath your lofty standards… yet here you are again… apparently you just can’t stay away.  So you tell me, who is the hypocrite?


seems to me to be poor taste to post nude pics of the dead and talk about their lifestyles.

You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but if you were being true to your apparent disapproval would you have been reading a thread on this topic that is weeks old or even commenting on it?  Or do you routinely take the time to comb through old topics and reactivate them only to voice your disapproval?

With more than 14000 views this thread has proven to be the fifth most popular topic in this forum (that is not a sticky) so your view is clearly in the minority, all of which begs the question of what you are doing here if you find all this beneath your standards.

This is the sex forum after all and its purpose is “sexual talk that may be more than one can handle.”  Your concerns about “good taste” remind me of the johns on the muscle escort board.  They don’t mind renting muscle by the hour but when an escort turns up dead they feign moral indignation and attack anyone who dares to question how the escort died or how the activity of tricking with johns might have contributed to the death.

In the words of another hypocrite in this thread, maybe you need to “check yo’ self.”
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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #283 on: June 19, 2008, 02:58:45 PM »
I'm not a hypocrite,I enjoy the pics,and only cast judgement on the the posters saying how its so sad and wrong.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #284 on: June 19, 2008, 03:08:36 PM »
I'm not a hypocrite,I enjoy the pics,and only cast judgement on the the posters saying how its so sad and wrong.


seems to me to be poor taste to post nude pics of the dead and talk about their lifestyles.


Do you have a twin brother or a split personality?  I think most people here would find your rhetoric very inconsistent.  The person who wrote that would not be visiting and revisiting this thread.  I think all are welcome here, but visiting this thread in order to condemn it does not make much sense to me.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #285 on: June 19, 2008, 03:11:39 PM »
I'm not a hypocrite,I enjoy the pics,and only cast judgement on the the posters saying how its so sad and wrong.

For the record, I personally never said it is "wrong", but I do think a lot of it is fascinatingly sad. And twisted. And funny. I also love watching shows like "Gangland" and "Locked Up".

I guess I just have a very twisted, sick sense of humor. I like freak shows. So shoot me.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #286 on: July 04, 2008, 10:54:21 AM »
from my mailbag:

Q: Hey I was curios, how does a muscle rent situation go down?  You reach them online then setup a appointment for the muscle rent thing?   What do you do wrestle them down then do whatever you want or ?


A: Although I have a friend who has escorted and a couple friends who have hired escorts, I have never hired an escort myself so you can take my comments for what they are worth…

I think what happens, and how it happens varies from person to person.  Most guys who hire muscle escorts are looking for some kind of sexual experience.  This can be as indirect as the guy standing in front of you and flexing while you jack off with no contact between the two (this is the kind of escorting pros and semi pros prefer to do) or it can be as direct as kissing, anal, and oral intercourse, etc.  From what I have heard/read many sessions involve you performing fellatio on the escort and jerkin yourself to satisfaction.  Different escorts offer or specialize in different “services” so, again, it can vary a lot.  Some escorts specialize in realizing your fantasies….perform feats of strength for you… or wrestle with you… or… you name it.  If you like, some will wear specific articles of clothing you request such as a jockstrap, a leather outfit, a cowboy outfit, or a fireman’s uniform, etc.  You are paying for the experience so you can basically order/ask for whatever you want.  Of course, the more you ask for the more you might have to pay.

If you read a lot of escort ads on the various escort boards, you will see that some escorts spell out specifically what they offer (top, bottom, safe, bareback, party and play, special fantasies, etc.) and for how much so you can make your choice accordingly.  You can rent them for an hour, two hours, or even for an overnight.  Their rates are usually posted in their ads.

There are also escort review sites where guys who have hired escorts write reviews of them for others to read and make an informed choice.  So, for example, if a particular escort has bad hygiene, does not deliver what he promises, or otherwise creates an unsatisfactory experience for the guy who hires him, other potential johns can read about that and choose to avoid that particular escort.  If you have ever purchased anything on ebay or amazon.com it is like the buyer reviews you can find there… but often much more detailed.  Some escorts develop great reputations and do very well.  Obviously, the opposite can happen too.

There are many bigger guys (pros and semi pros) who are available for rent but never advertise because they have to be discrete.  You identify these guys via word of mouth, internet network, private show after-parties, etc.  Once you are plugged into this network, and if you are discrete, you can make offer$ to these guys and depending on their own need$/schedules they may or may not agree to see you.  These guys tend to cost more.


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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #287 on: July 04, 2008, 01:58:57 PM »
from my mailbag:

Wow Bay, thx for taking your time and writing that all out, and thank you for not including my name.


You're welcome.  ;)

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #288 on: July 05, 2008, 10:36:35 PM »
Muscles for rent


Back for rent


Legs for rent


Back is good but the rest... bah!  Doom disapproves.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #289 on: July 06, 2008, 02:13:15 PM »
I may be getting a bit off target here."But what is the deal with tatoos?" Don't these folks realize they're stuck with those things on their body forever? Maybe I should invest in laser tatoo removal.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #290 on: July 06, 2008, 06:27:04 PM »
I may be getting a bit off target here."But what is the deal with tatoos?" Don't these folks realize they're stuck with those things on their body forever? Maybe I should invest in laser tatoo removal.

You are correct; your question is way off target.  Your dislike of tattoos has nothing to do with muscle escorting.   >:(

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #291 on: August 14, 2008, 06:45:31 PM »
Bay, did you say 2-4k per session for someone like Branch? (just hypothetically speaking here)

I was half joking when I said that (since I know Branch is, shall we say, not gay friendly) but I was serious about the dollar amount.  That was for a private session--not a photo shoot.  Photo shoots usually end up being public like Muscle Gallery and understandably not everyone wants to appear on such a site.

When I threw that figure out there, I was thinking of an overnight session and very probably full on sex.  Again, something most straight bodybuilders would not do.

A typical escort session would just be an hour or two of body contact, kissing, oral/anal, etc.  The usual fee for this sort of thing is $150-250/hour for male escorts.  Muscle escorts can often get away with charging more, say, 200-400/hour.  A physique like Branch’s though could command a lot more.  And since he is the exact opposite of a typical whore—meaning he is someone most muscle schmoes would never normally have access to if I were managing him I would charge even more for him, say $2K-5K depending on the length of time and what he was (or was not) willing to do.  :D

In short, there are plenty of guys who would pay to romp with this...  (let's forget, for a moment, he is 5'6")  ;)

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #292 on: October 01, 2008, 09:00:27 AM »
Would you pay money to sleep with this escort?  Oye!  I guess there really is someone for everyone.  ::)

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #293 on: October 16, 2008, 08:05:22 PM »
One of the issues mentioned earlier in this topic is why a muscled guy would subject himself to becoming a sex object for money?  Well, I wanted to throw in some thoughts on this subject.

In today's society, heavily muscled guys (bodybuilders) are looked on as freakish by most of the population (both men and women).  This is part of the reason that so few sports channels carry much bodybuilding programming.  There are some women who truly like huge guys and there are obviously gay men who also like them, but these people are the minority.  On the flip side, there are also the men (and some women) who like being huge.  The men who choose to muscle up do so for some reason that only they truly understand.  Also, once the muscle head passes the threshold into 'freakish size', it's difficult for him to continue to be accepted by most people (including potential employers).  Of course, there are the football jocks or wrestlers who bulk up for their sport where size is accepted.  But, when their sporting days are over, what then?  That's all they know.  So, many continue bulking up (if not primarily concentrating on that goal alone) to continue to get bigger.

In business situations, you rarely see Jay Cutler sized guys roaming around the office.   This is mostly because of the time, effort and dedication (on so many levels) that it takes to retain that much mass.  It's hard to put in an 8-10 hour day and still have time to put in the necessary hours at the gym combined with a stringent diet.  I'm not saying it can't be done, it's just difficult (and tiring) to do (and lifestyle restricting).   If you do have an 8 hour day job and spend several hours at the gym, there's really very little time left for anything else (like relationships).  So, these muscle heads likely end up very lonely people.  Oh, they have their gym buddies and workout partners, but that usually doesn't extend beyond the gym nor, in many cases, are those considered real relationships.

So, unless the muscle building effort turns out to get him on an IFBB pro stage (or some other national BB contest), what else can you do with that muscle?  Sure, you can show it off at the beach.  You might be able to get a modeling spot (if you're not too big).  But, these aren't likely to make you much money.  If the guy ends up in the 'freakish' size category, general modeling is out.  The only modeling for 'freakish' is for fitness wear for mags like Flex, M&F, Planet Muscle, etc and, to some degree mainstream mags like Men's Fitness.  Even Men's Fitness doesn't really do 'freakish'.  Still, most of those mags restrict their modeling gigs to specific individuals.   It's reasonably hard to get your foot in the door as a new model.  The alternative, then, is sex mags which actually do have a huge following and tend to make a lot of money (although, not necessarily for the model).

For the muscle guy who doesn't have a day job (or doesn't have the skills for it), he'll opt for spending his day hours bulking up because that's what he knows how to do.  The problem, though, is once you're there, what do you do with the muscle?  Clearly, if you're not on stage posing (winning contests) and you don't have a day job, you need some way to make money.  It's not like most retailers are going to hire a Cutler sized guy to man a cash register or be a door greeter.  That may be discriminatory, but it's very intimidating to have someone that size standing there.  These guys would end up working the unloading dock or stockroom out of sight (very manual labor and probably lesser paying too).  Other professions include jobs like cop, fireman, bodyguard or bouncer... assuming the guy wants to do that sort of semi-dangerous work (and not get paid all that well doing it).  That finally leaves... you guessed it... escorting... where muscle is quite accepted.

That said, for the same reason that the johns want to pay for a temporary relationship, these muscle escorts also feel the same need (and they get paid reasonably well for it) because all they know is the gym (and likely performance enhancing drugs).  They need the cash to continue to pay bills.  They get an ego boost from their John.. so, being an escort is a temporary high and a paycheck.  In the escorting lifestyle, I'm quite sure there's a lot of pressure to perform, so enhancing drugs become a staple to ensure the performance (and continued viability as an escort).  As an escort, it's ego building to have someone worship your body.  After the escort, however, that ego rapidly deflates once they get back home and into the gym where the gym buddies see the flaws, not the features.

So, unless the muscle guy ends up with a Pro card on a bodybuilding stage, there's not a whole lot of professions left for a guy with 22" arms, 58" chest and quads the size of the someone's head.  After his tenure on stage is done, what then?  If he's well known enough, perhaps endorsements for a while, but how long will that last and how much would he make?  If he's invested any winnings wisely, he might be able to make a living after the stage.  But, many of the winning purses are only $10,000 (poverty level if you win 1 per year).  But, again, where does a muscle guy go to make money besides where I've mentioned?  For those without a marketable job skill combined with freakish muscles as the primary attribute, this is a problem.  Many former bodybuilders have returned to a more reasonable body size, partly because of cessation of steroids, but also because they know it's really only truly accepted on the bodybuilding stage.  It's also very hard on the body.

Why then do they escort (and continue to escort)?  Because there are so few jobs where a freakish sized muscle guy can continue to be freakish and make money.



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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #294 on: October 16, 2008, 11:16:47 PM »
Would you pay money to sleep with this escort?  Oye!  I guess there really is someone for everyone.  ::)

he has a 10 inch crank.

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #295 on: October 29, 2008, 09:27:42 AM »
cuilblue:

You say they escort because “there are few jobs where a freakish sized muscle guy can continue to be freakish and make money.”  I do not really buy that. 

I could very easily (and with some credibility) say there is racial discrimination in legitimate fields of employment for black men . . . therefore I will become an escort.  But the first part of that sentence does not logically lead to the second part. 

Obviously, these big guys escort for a variety of reasons, but chief among them is that there is a market for them that pays and they simply do not want to engage in, or limit themselves to, legitimate lines of work.  They made a choice to escort; it is as simple as that.

No bodybuilder is trapped or forced into becoming a whore. 


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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #296 on: October 30, 2008, 07:34:30 AM »
Is this dude still escorting?  Still alive?  Anyone know? ???

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #297 on: October 30, 2008, 06:56:06 PM »
My aren't we prissy?    Perhaps you'd like him more in his prime.

Nah. I'd still pass.  But as I said, there is someone for everyone so, it's all good.  :D

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Re: Muscle escorting (gay)
« Reply #298 on: November 23, 2008, 09:39:18 AM »
Part two of Ashley's interview sounds a lot like muscle escorting.  :-\

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Re: Muscle escorting (4 schmoes)
« Reply #299 on: January 12, 2009, 03:27:43 AM »
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