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« Reply #300 on: March 14, 2009, 12:23:20 PM »

http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=153540&scid=19066275&sp=1&pos=6

There has got to be an easier way to make $250.

I don't know how these escorts do it?  I cannot stand the idea of someone I do not like even touching me much less something more explicit.  I wouldn't let an anonymous John fuck me for any amount of money!  Oh well, at least by hiding his face, he can hide his shame.  Cool


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« Reply #301 on: May 29, 2009, 06:28:57 AM »

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« Reply #302 on: June 01, 2009, 01:06:31 AM »

who is this guy ?
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« Reply #303 on: June 01, 2009, 09:29:05 PM »

And why the hell can't they date each other? Fat people, old people, ugly people, disabled people -- straight AND gay -- marry and fuck each other every day in this world, and as often as the day is long. The idea that some dried-up old prune or some obese turd is only attracted to and can only fall in love with or get his rocks off by the sight of some young bodybuilder... well, there's some serious twisted psychological damage there. I can understand hiring someone for the occasional annual fantasy or bithday present -- but there's that twisted, sad 77 year old guy on that site who gushes about hiring one guy 35 times. And he is revered over there, like he is someone to be admired. There's also another regular poster there (with "rent" in his screen name) who brags about hiring almost every muscle escort publicly known to man, as if he owns some kind of collection of rare trading cards or something. True, money might not be an issue for those people, but what's the emotional trade-off?

What site are you talking about?
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« Reply #304 on: October 22, 2009, 09:30:28 AM »

This guy on the right (who works/volunteers as an usher at IFBB shows -- here he is at the 2009 Olympia) has been escorting and hustling in NYC for at least 16 years now. He every now and then still advertises at rentboy, and print publications in nyc under various pseudonyms" Joe, Mark, etc. What's sad is he has to be at least in his mid 40s now.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/7992/0/d/img_03781253867744.jpg

He started out hustling at the hustling bars in NYC, before Guiliani cracked down on all that. There used to be a few gay bars in NYC where muscle guys could openly prostitute themselves to the clients: Rounds was one, Stella's was another. In LA, there was a place called Numbers.

EDIT: he even currently has a rentboy ad: http://www.rentboy.com/listing.aspx?lid=7127&scid=31998358&sp=1&pos=9

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« Reply #305 on: January 05, 2010, 10:20:46 PM »

Male prostitution is Nevada's newest legal profession
After months of debate in the state's surprisingly squeamish brothel community, Nye County officials agree to let Shady Lady Ranch near Death Valley hire men.
By Ashley Powers

Reporting from Tonopah, Nev.

Brothel owner Bobbi Davis got the go-ahead Tuesday to hire what her website cheekily calls "a few good men."

Her Shady Lady Ranch is searching for "service-oriented" guys willing to become Nevada's first legal male sex workers.

"I personally feel, as do the many other women who have made contact with me since I started this, that this is a service whose time has come," Davis said in a letter to Nye County officials.

A county board's vote Tuesday affirming that Davis could offer "shady men" to her clientele followed months of rancorous debate among the state's legal brothel community. The industry, in its own peculiar way, is somewhat conservative: Considered an anachronism of bawdy mining camps by some Nevada newcomers, it often balks at change.

Of course, new ideas in a business unique to Nevada (in its legal form) are a touch different. Adding porn stars to brothel lineups rankled some owners. Overturning a ban on brothel advertising, a battle Davis and the American Civil Liberties Union helped lead, also stirred up debate. Though neither change shuttered the state's 25 or so bordellos -- some would argue the publicity helped -- many owners still operate in an off-the-grid manner, wary of being shut down.

George Flint, longtime lobbyist for the Nevada Brothel Assn., has said that allowing male prostitutes could be the industry's Pearl Harbor. He has hinted that brothels possibly offering gay sex -- a choice each prostitute, as an independent contractor, would be free to make -- might sour some legislators on the entire brothel system.

Nevada lawmakers are notoriously skittish when discussing the birds and bees. The Legislature, even when severely cash-strapped, has repeatedly declined to tax the brothels (which are banned in Reno and Las Vegas) for fear of, well, legitimizing the business.

"This is the first time in the history of the world . . . that men have been licensed to sell sex," Flint said Tuesday, his voice rising. "It's never been done!"

Davis and her husband, Jim, merely hope to boost business. Their small outpost near Death Valley, about 150 miles northwest of Las Vegas, offers as many as five women, relies heavily on travelers and has gotten some requests for gigolos.

After announcing her plans this summer, Davis and attorney Allen Lichtenstein succeeded where the better-known Hollywood Madam, Heidi Fleiss, had failed. In 2005, Fleiss announced that she was moving to Pahrump, in southern Nye County, in hopes of creating a "stud farm." She opened a Laundromat instead.

Davis figures that, even if it's a flop, adding men to her roster is worth trying. She has been inundated with more than 100 applications, she said, though she held off on hiring until she'd cleared all bureaucratic hurdles.

The final one: Tuesday's meeting of the Nye County Licensing and Liquor Board, which is made up of five county commissioners and Sheriff Tony DeMeo, who had been openly skeptical of Davis' plan.

Opponents who promised to take buses to Tonopah, however, failed to show up. Not one constituent spoke about the proposal. But DeMeo, Flint and Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite BunnyRanch, raised concerns about monitoring the spread of infectious diseases, though state health regulators had already cleared the way for male sex workers.

"You guys can't scare me," said Commissioner Lorinda Wichman before voting in Davis' favor. "I'm going to try this."

Though the vote was relatively nonconfrontational, the discussion beforehand showed how much controversy remains. For much of Davis' speech, officials rested their chins in their hands, lowered their eyes or slumped in their chairs. When the sheriff noted that Davis' statement varied from her letter to commissioners, she read aloud one section with force.

"It seems the biggest hoopla is a great fear in some people's minds that some kind of homosexual activity might go on," she said. "Why panic I don't understand . . . it's not my intent to encourage or promote or to turn my business into a 'gay property.' "

DeMeo wondered whether sex workers could check female customers for signs of disease as easily as men. Davis said yes.

"If you want me to go into the inspection routine, I will," she said.

"Please don't!" said a commissioner, to laughter.
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« Reply #306 on: January 21, 2010, 05:17:26 PM »

Why is this guy "pumping my bis and checking the chicks at the same time" yet making and posting videos for men (to drum up escort work)?  Bah!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63iXUNTZV6g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63iXUNTZV6g</a>
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« Reply #307 on: March 08, 2010, 07:23:45 PM »

I previously mentioned that "Whenever the deaths were reported (they were many) on the muscle gossip/escort board, all we were told is that the guy died.  If anyone dared to ask HOW the guy died they were immediately smacked down by one of the moderators for asking.  Some people were even banned for asking (they eventually came back under new identities)."  So, is it wrong or otherwise inappropriate to ask about the cause of a death?  The Ethicist has the answer:


 
Q: A dear friend died recently and unexpectedly. I asked his widow if he had been ill and received an evasive answer and a sense that she was hiding something. It is unsettling not to know how my old friend died. Would it be wrong to check his death certificate — it is a public record — or would that be an invasion of privacy? name withheld, Los Angeles

A: It would be insensitive to demand this information from a widow awash in grief but not unethical to seek it yourself. A death certificate is, as you note, a public record; cause of death is routinely printed in obituaries. It might vex the widow to discover that you acquired this information, but that need not deter you. Your long friendship with her late husband has its own claims. It is a natural and honorable thing to want to know how a close friend died. And it is estimable in itself to gain a deeper understanding of the world, including knowledge that is steeped in sadness.

Even if your friend himself had wished to conceal these bleak details, you could seek them now: he is beyond being harmed by your doing so. The dead have no claims to privacy, something reflected not only in ethics but also in law: you cannot, for example, libel the dead. As Voltaire said: “One owes respect to the living. To the dead, one owes only the truth.
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« Reply #308 on: March 21, 2010, 06:20:07 AM »

muscle escorting... in action!


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« Reply #309 on: March 23, 2010, 04:24:44 AM »

 Huh Its all a choice made by adults that is really nobody's business. Unless your there who knows what gos on behind closed doors...No?
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« Reply #310 on: March 29, 2010, 02:09:47 PM »

From my mailbag:

Q: Bay,
How would one go about getting "sponsorship"?  I am in X (city) and got to start making some extra $$$ to compete.
Thanks,
(name withheld)



A: Are you serious or is this a joke?  Going down this road effectively means becoming a male prostitute.  Are you willing to do that?  If you are in good shape there are guys (schmoes) that are willing to hire you for access to your body but

1) they will only pay top dollar if you are already huge and ripped.  They are not willing to pay for someone who hopes to become huge and ripped some day in the future.

2) How old are you? &guy usually = more money.  If you have the face & body of Jeff Long or Seth Feroce you can command top dollar, say, $1000 per session.  Typical escort sessions are in the $200-300 range.

3) What are you willing to do with a schmoe? Stand and pose? Get gropped? Wrestle? Get sucked off? Or have sex?  Obviously, the more you do the more money you can command.

I think most up and comers find sponsors by creating a website for themselves with lots of good photos and then mention that they are “looking for sponsorship.”  That is the code phrase that says “I’m available for the right price—contact me now.” Most serious bodybuilders have good photos of themselves so if you are serious about this you should as well.  On the other hand, if you just want to be an escort who happens to be in good shape, you can always place an ad on the usual escort sites like rentboy.com.

Proceed with caution. Undecided
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« Reply #311 on: May 19, 2010, 02:46:12 PM »

That poor lady.  His allimony will pay her therapy.  She must be embarrassed and humiliated.  Not good Bay!

It's four years later; a few book and TV deals later Ted and his wife are still together.  Who saw that coming?  Not me.

This is an interesting video.  "homosexual temptations"?  "heterosexual with homosexual attachments"? Huh


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94EnKUJQHI4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94EnKUJQHI4</a>
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« Reply #312 on: May 22, 2010, 10:22:17 AM »

subscribing to catch up on all 13 pages.

"easier way to make $250?"  really; lie back, get a blow job; watch some str8 porn...every guy loves a great BJ; in , out, done in 12 minutes max.  if there is an easier way to make $250 I'd like to know.
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« Reply #313 on: May 24, 2010, 05:30:58 PM »

You are assuming that a blow job is the activity being paid for.  Is it?  If money is on the table I am wiling to wager that the John wants more.  Based on my readings of that escort forum anal is a regular part of the escort/John exchange… and some of those Johns are not exactly attractive if you get my drift. Lips sealed

Would you open your ass to some random John for $250?  Or top some John who may not have the body type you prefer?  How do you even get hard for someone you find repulsive?  Huh
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« Reply #314 on: May 25, 2010, 04:42:07 AM »

You are assuming that a blow job is the activity being paid for.  Is it?  If money is on the table I am wiling to wager that the John wants more.  Based on my readings of that escort forum anal is a regular part of the escort/John exchange… and some of those Johns are not exactly attractive if you get my drift. Lips sealed

Would you open your ass to some random John for $250?  Or top some John who may not have the body type you prefer?  How do you even get hard for someone you find repulsive?  Huh
close your eyes, think of someone that you would like to fuck - take some viagra; and raise the asking price to $500 or $1000.
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« Reply #315 on: May 25, 2010, 06:50:36 AM »

But that’s not what escorts do.  They do it all for around $250.  You will never see a male escort ad for $1000 because that is not what they charge (unless it is for several days).  My point remains, “There has got to be an easier way to make $250.”

If you can close your eyes and “think of someone that you would like to fuck” when you are being pawned, fucked, or fucking then you have a better imagination than I do.  Would you crawl into bed with this guy and start slurping for $250? Huh  And remember the slurping is just foreplay.  The the guy in the rentboy pix above is showing off his bare ass for a reason--because he is willing to open it up for johns.  Lips sealed


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« Reply #316 on: May 25, 2010, 09:38:01 AM »

But that’s not what escorts do.  They do it all for around $250.  You will never see a male escort ad for $1000 because that is not what they charge (unless it is for several days).  My point remains, “There has got to be an easier way to make $250.”

If you can close your eyes and “think of someone that you would like to fuck” when you are being pawned, fucked, or fucking then you have a better imagination than I do.  Would you crawl into bed with this guy and start slurping for $250? Huh  And remember the slurping is just foreplay.  The the guy in the rentboy pix above is showing off his bare ass for a reason--because he is willing to open it up for johns.  Lips sealed

the escort can always say 'no thanks'.  unless the price was higher. I'd let him blow me and play with my balls for $1500.
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« Reply #317 on: May 25, 2010, 09:43:31 AM »

the escort can always say 'no thanks'.  unless the price was higher. I'd let him blow me and play with my balls for $1500.

LOL  You drive a hard bargain!  No deal!  Grin

I've always been surprised that male escorts (at least the hot ones) don't charge more than they do.
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« Reply #318 on: June 18, 2010, 03:19:56 AM »


I've always been surprised that male escorts (at least the hot ones) don't charge more than they do.

Face it. Many of them have drug habits. The need to support a habit makes for some incredible compromises.
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« Reply #319 on: July 29, 2010, 01:47:16 PM »

 I have to say. I had had several Muscle worship sessions with most of these guys. Scott just wanted the Money to get bigger and I was good for his ego. Rod  went crazy with Drugs years ago and his who;e face changed . Andrew was a really nice confortable guy. Some of us who have hired these guys because we don't want or have the time for the Gay bar scenes and work long hours. I have always respect these guys for the hard work that I do not have time to do. I do have money but no time. I love to see a young guy grow and get bigger but most Muscle worship guys get turned off when their Buddy becomes CRAZY from drugs, Roid smell ect... Because I gave them a couple of bucks to pose they were all safe Exclude a couple , but I had enough sense to stay safe.
 Hustling did not kill them ! Money did not kill them ! What they did to their Bodies killed them and it is a shame.
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« Reply #320 on: September 06, 2010, 12:03:36 PM »

I have to say. I had had several Muscle worship sessions with most of these guys. Scott just wanted the Money to get bigger and I was good for his ego. Rod  went crazy with Drugs years ago and his who;e face changed . Andrew was a really nice confortable guy. Some of us who have hired these guys because we don't want or have the time for the Gay bar scenes and work long hours. I have always respect these guys for the hard work that I do not have time to do. I do have money but no time. I love to see a young guy grow and get bigger but most Muscle worship guys get turned off when their Buddy becomes CRAZY from drugs, Roid smell ect... Because I gave them a couple of bucks to pose they were all safe Exclude a couple , but I had enough sense to stay safe.
 Hustling did not kill them ! Money did not kill them ! What they did to their Bodies killed them and it is a shame.

Of course, you're too blind or willfully ignorant to see the connection between the hustling and what they used the money for that you were giving them for hustling with you.

You claim the only reason you hire these guys is because you simply do not have time for the bar scene or you work long hours -- as if you're the only people in the world who work long hours. The cold hard truth is that you cannot socially compete on a bar scene level for the kinds of men that you are (unreasonably) attracted to. A guy in a bar or at a club who had muscles would no be into someone like you, so you have to pay for it.
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« Reply #321 on: September 06, 2010, 07:36:16 PM »

Of course, you're too blind or willfully ignorant to see the connection between the hustling and what they used the money for that you were giving them for hustling with you.

You claim the only reason you hire these guys is because you simply do not have time for the bar scene or you work long hours -- as if you're the only people in the world who work long hours. The cold hard truth is that you cannot socially compete on a bar scene level for the kinds of men that you are (unreasonably) attracted to. A guy in a bar or at a club who had muscles would not be into someone like you, so you have to pay for it.


Ouch! 

I hate to do it because it sounds mean spirited, but I have to agree with this.  The idea that one is “too busy” or doesn’t have time for the “bar scene” is laughable.  The people who make this claim do so with the implication that if they weren’t so “busy” they could land these same heavily muscled men.  Bigboyz may be fooling himself with this line of thinking, but he is certainly not fooling YellaDawg, me, or anyone else.

By the way, the “bar scene” is not the only way to meet men.  I have met men at the grocery store, the post office, at the beach, online, at work, at school, the gym, etc.  But I have met them in bars too, and the truth is the bar scene (this varies from bar to bar) can be very competitive!  If you are a shrinking violet, ugly, poor social skills, out of shape, etc. you haven’t a prayer of landing a huge muscle man (or anyone else for that matter).  As YD says, you cannot socially compete.  Attempting to mask this failure by saying one is "too busy" for "the bar scene" is woefully transparent.  Embarrassed
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« Reply #322 on: September 09, 2010, 04:45:07 AM »

whether I could pick them up at a gym, bar, grocery store doesn't interest me. I know what I want, when I want it and will pay for it.  if my age/body style, personality doesn't please the BB, that doesn't bother me, either.  he wants the money, I want to play with his body.  His ability to be a great escort is to give the impression he is enjoying himself whilst in my company.
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« Reply #323 on: September 09, 2010, 08:09:15 PM »

whether I could pick them up at a gym, bar, grocery store doesn't interest me. I know what I want, when I want it and will pay for it.  if my age/body style, personality doesn't please the BB, that doesn't bother me, either.  he wants the money, I want to play with his body.  His ability to be a great escort is to give the impression he is enjoying himself whilst in my company.

At least you're honest -- unlike bigboyz who rationalizes why he has to hire hookers.
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« Reply #324 on: September 10, 2010, 05:47:07 AM »

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If you or Bigboyz want to have a muscle transaction that’s fine.  The point here is that it is self serving and foolish to pretend that the reason you have elected to do so is because you are “too busy” and don’t “have the time for the Gay bar scenes and work long hours.”  If money were not on the table those muscle guys wouldn’t be giving Bigboyz the time of day. Muscle escorts have casual, volitional, free sex all the time—the point is they are not having it with guys like Bigboyz.  If he wants it, he has to pay for it.
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